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Awesome.

Last year I screwed up and let my impatience get the best of me. I bought a Powerbook G4 right before the Intel switch (though I still love my Powerbook). Now I find myself wanting a new phone, and ideally a smart phone.

There's no way in hell I'm spending any of my Xmas money this year, I'm waiting on this news to surface or die. I need to switch providers too (which is the only way to get any sort of "deal" from cellular providers imo), so I hope this works out.
 
the phone to beat

I'm thinking of buying the KRZR flatout ($400), but holding off to see what Apple can offer. I must admit that the KRZR is the phone to beat at the moment. If Apple can come up with something beautiful, I'm game!

Cinch
 
Good. My dad's phone sucks and will be dead soon, so If he can hold out till MWSF I'll plunk up for 2 phones... or 3 if my sister gets wind of it.

Ouch, that could be expensive. :p
 
The iPhone rumor is so old that I've just lost any excitement discussing it...

I am glad Apple is about to release it, but it's gonna be hard for me to just ditch my abonnement/subscription in Switzerland and replace the great RAZR v3i I've got for an iPhone...at least until the subscription expires, bien sûr...:rolleyes:
 
if im not mistaking wasnt cingular the "exclusive Company" for the first 6 months or will it just be all providers after the first 6 months any hope i will come to Verizon and hope verizion wont be stupid with the phones and lock out certain features
 
Looks more like a wishlist to me, but I guess the guy has a decent track record which gives it some credence. You just have to wonder who his 'solid source' is.

..and if Apple is trying to expose a suspected leaker, letting loose the "2 battery" idea would easily point back to a specific person they were setting up...
 
The was a guy on here who said something interesting, if this supposed iPhone came out, he would give his ipod to his wife. Do you guys think that apple might play it a little safe with the mp3 features on this thing in order not to cannabilize ipod (especially Nano) sales. The low end one is basically a nano so ya, you walk in and theres a 4gig $200 nano and a 4gig $200 small phone, what do ya pick if there both apple. My nod would be for the phone. I don't if flash prices are decreasing enough for this to work but maybe apple could up or double the nano capacities, mabye 2,6,10, or 2,8,14 or something to help so the nano has a different worth in itself. I think the capacity of the real ipod keeps it safe for awhile, but I would be damned if Apple put a touchscreen in their phone if they didnt have one ready for their flagship ipod

my .02
Thebrain
 
will pay $600

if is more compelling than the KRZR, I'll pay $600 for it. Go for the highend, Apple. Forget the twenty something who doesn't have disposable income, try thirty-something with some cash to spare (god I'm getting old):D .


Cinch
 
Branding considerations

I doubt that it will be called iPhone. It's much more likely to be called "iPod phone" or "iPod cell", or maybe something more creative like "iPod connect". I don't see them coming up with another "i*" brand that will be become confused with iPod, since this product is likely to be the longterm successor to the current iPod lineup.

Strategically, I suspect that if Apple are getting into the phone business, it is because they see convergence with music players as being inevitable, and therefore getting into phones early represents an opportunity, whilst not getting into phones represents a long term threat to their iPod business.

If you follow this to it's logical conclusion, then this indicates that Apple assumes one day their entire product lineup will include cellphone functionality. They're therefore likely to adopt a similar strategy to the introduction of photo functionality. The first iPod to support photos was branded as "iPod photo" - when photo functionality was rolled out across the entire screenbased product lineup, the "photo" bit was dropped. And so, if they call their phones "iPod mobile" (or similar) then when the entire lineup has switched over, their mobile phone business will inherit the iPod moniker.
 
if im not mistaking wasnt cingular the "exclusive Company" for the first 6 months or will it just be all providers after the first 6 months any hope i will come to Verizon and hope verizion wont be stupid with the phones and lock out certain features

I hope it's with cigular 'cause otherwise I'll be waiting a year to get one. My contract with them expires at the end of November 07. If it's cingular I'll pony up the money and buy one at full price. If not I'm stuck with my Razr and current contract.
 
Why is everyone contract, subsidized, carrier obsessed.

Apple will release it, available only through them and those who sell iPods. I think the price speculated is a bit cheap. However, Apple sells you the "iPhone Smart" for $500, with no carrier intervention, and they have COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THE OS AND EXPERIENCE. This is HUGE!! Carriers want the phone hindered so it conforms to their $$$services$$$...

As I just explained, I can get an unlocked, unbranded, non-crippled phone at subsidized prices. The only downside is a contract, and really, I don't need to switch my phone company every few months.

So the advantage of "no carrier intervention" is worth essentially nothing to me. And if Apple wants me to buy an unsubsidized phone, it really needs to kill whatever Sony Ericsson or Nokia S60 phone I can get for hundreds less with a subsidy.
 
Great! I just bought a new phone (actually, it was free after I signed away my soul for two more years). Either way, talk about bad timing! Although I would never buy a first gen., and I prefer to get my phones free. :)

I don't think those prices are realistic at all. The retail price of new phones is usually in the $400 to $500 range. I don't see how Apple could manage to sell a phone for half that.

Plus, I don't think all providers is a realistic claim either, but we'll see.
 
IF Kevin says it, then it shall be so. If Alex (his co-host) says it, then any person even thinking of creating it would instantly burst into flames.
 
I can see Steve coming up with a slide like this in his keynote in January:

Why combine an iPod and a phone?
- Carry one device instead of two
- Hear your phone ring on your headphones
- Listen to calls on headphones and resume music playback seamlessly
- Sync one device with your PC instead of two

and then he'll say something like this...

"iPod is the best music player out there. Period. So we thought, if we're going to add cell phone functionality to it, we want that to be the best out there too. We didn't want to make a first rate MP3 player with a second rate phone attached." (Cue amusing slide of iPod attached to a regular handset with string and tape).

"Mobile phones are a big, established industry. Other companies have been making these things for over ten years now. So we took a long hard look at what was already out there, to see if there was anything left to for us to add. And it turns out that there's a lot left to do..."
 
Interesting but the only thing that makes it shakey for me is the "all providers" claim. An iphone intro with both GSM and CDMA in the same phone? Two different models? Would love to see it, but for all carriers I have doubts. Especially with Verizon and Alltel's clugey software requirements.

Yeah, that seems pretty unlikely to me. "World Phones," that is, phones with both CDMA & GSM support, are really expensive, and a rare find. Having a CDMA and a GSM model seems much more likely, but VZW is known for putting on their own UI, and for testing the device to death before release.

If it were planned for release soon, surely the cell phone discussion boards, like HowardForums would have caught on to some solid information by now.
 
I'm thinking of buying the KRZR flatout ($400), but holding off to see what Apple can offer. I must admit that the KRZR is the phone to beat at the moment. If Apple can come up with something beautiful, I'm game!

Cinch

What's so special about it? I just looked at the specs, it doesn't do anything unique.
 
Then, being a tech reviewer, you think he would be able to compare the size of a device to something other than excrement. ;) :D

Yea, I never pooped nything smaller than a mighty mouse... hope the ohone won't be that big.
 
Then, being a tech reviewer, you think he would be able to compare the size of a device to something other than excrement. ;) :D

It must be the "Zune" effect ;).

Seriously this sounds really cool, the 2 battery idea is excellent, at first I thought it was a bit silly but now it sounds better, it would be cool though if you can adjust the balance between the two halves, so if you use the phone a lot you can set it to be 90% phone 10% iPod and vice versa.
 
If you follow this to it's logical conclusion, then this indicates that Apple assumes one day their entire product lineup will include cellphone functionality. They're therefore likely to adopt a similar strategy to the introduction of photo functionality. The first iPod to support photos was branded as "iPod photo" - when photo functionality was rolled out across the entire screenbased product lineup, the "photo" bit was dropped. And so, if they call their phones "iPod mobile" (or similar) then when the entire lineup has switched over, their mobile phone business will inherit the iPod moniker.

I agree 100%. Having the iPod phone and the iPod phone nano makes total sense. I can't really picture an Ipod phone shuffle tho... you can only accept calls and call a random number... But maybe not this soon, the nano just got a big update... unless it was ready for phone capabilities from the start. I'd love apple to keep offering the nano and having the phone feature cost a little extra (BTO?).

I guess those 2 phones will look similar to the current iPod line, with a speaker and a microphone at convenient yet elegant places. The small version should be a little bigger than the 2g nano tho... try holding it to your ear like a cell phone, it's not really comfortable. But with a headset, that's another thing. Dialing with the click wheel should work (use the rotary-safe thing like the one used for the screen lock) for the few occasions you're calling someone who is not in your address book. I love the address book function on my iPod, I only miss the pictures and a 'call' menu item.

Is there any picture of a disassembled iPod nano somewhere? I wanna see how much space is left in there... I guess none at all. Still beats me how they got everything in there.
 
Hmm I may have to switch carriers if Apple produces a smart phone....just an iPod I don't really care all that much, but a smart phone? *drools*
 
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