When I said it's not an iPhone 5, I was referring to the fact that this iPhone 4s will not have the legit and substantial improvements (be it external and internal improvements) compared to the iPhone 5. And the fact that apple will be making more profit out of the iphone4s doesnt mean jack to me AT ALL. How does their profit matter to the consumer???
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When I said it's not an iPhone 5, I was referring to the fact that this iPhone 4s will not have the legit and substantial improvements (be it external and internal improvements) compared to the iPhone 5. And the fact that apple will be making more profit out of the iphone4s doesnt mean jack to me AT ALL. How does their profit matter to the consumer???
If, as it looks likely there is no major redesign it will be interesting to see if the whole antenna thing rears its head again. I thought they would have had a major redesign to separate it in peoples minds.
Could well be. A high end iPod with bigger screen, better camera, and Wifi phone capability.
just noticed but if you look at the lets talk iphone invite it had the calender tues 4, the time 10am, the location, and the phone icon with a 1. Perhaps this indicates 1 new iphone
That is what is creating doubt in my mind as well. The cases have yet to be explained.
If Apple do launch a 64GB version, what kind of price point would we be looking at?
Do we think they'd create a new one above the current 32GB one? Or shift everything down creating a new point below the current lowest iPhone 4 point for the new 4S 16GB model?
If they bring out an iPhone 4S with A5, 1GB Ram, 8MP camera and then 64GB at the old 32GB price point. I'd deffo be on board even though I am really disappointed there is no new case design.
Looking at current price points I can see something like this coming...
iPhone 4 8GB - $99
iPhone 4S 16GB - $149
iPhone 4S 32GB - $249
iPhone 4S 64GB - $349
So $50 less at the bottom, and $50 more at the top.
Do we think they'd create a new one above the current 32GB one? Or shift everything down creating a new point below the current lowest iPhone 4 point for the new 4S 16GB model?
If they bring out an iPhone 4S with A5, 1GB Ram, 8MP camera and then 64GB at the old 32GB price point. I'd deffo be on board even though I am really disappointed there is no new case design.
Looking at current price points I can see something like this coming...
iPhone 4 8GB - $99
iPhone 4S 16GB - $149
iPhone 4S 32GB - $249
iPhone 4S 64GB - $349
So $50 less at the bottom, and $50 more at the top.
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I like my iphone 4. I am hoping for more though like 4 inch screen. Rest is gravy!!
+1. Or as many as it takes. Agreed on all points. Plus the rest of the market is somewhat different from what it was in the 3gs's day, and a 4s won't really cut it out there.
It's seeming more and more to me with every bout of forum bickering that '4S' is a codename.
It sounds too dumb in everyday conversation, and it'll sound too dumb on the stage Tuesday morning.
So, why is '4S' so prevalent? Even going as far as being in the recent iTunes betas?
'Successor'. All it most likely means is the '4S' is the successor to the iPhone 4. For all we know it could be called the 'iPhone Derp'. It could be anything from 'iPhone 5', to 'iPhone V' (Which actually sounds kinda alright)
However, back on topic, I want a 64GB. After checking how much media I have exactly, it comes out to 60.3GB. I can leave out the videos, since I've seen them all already. That'll shave it down to 39.5GB. As my music collection grows, it would be the phone that I actually end up keeping for years, instead of random upgrades when I find a cheap one (January I got a 16GB 3G for $60 with a shattered screen, replaced every part except for the chrome bezel and the logic board, then July I found my current 8GB 3GS at a pawn shop also for $60). I'm not going to deal with the data usage for iCloud, battery drain of constant 3G streaming, etc... I really hope this rumor to be true.
It sounds too dumb in everyday conversation, and it'll sound too dumb on the stage Tuesday morning.
So, why is '4S' so prevalent? Even going as far as being in the recent iTunes betas?
'Successor'. All it most likely means is the '4S' is the successor to the iPhone 4. For all we know it could be called the 'iPhone Derp'. It could be anything from 'iPhone 5', to 'iPhone V' (Which actually sounds kinda alright)
However, back on topic, I want a 64GB. After checking how much media I have exactly, it comes out to 60.3GB. I can leave out the videos, since I've seen them all already. That'll shave it down to 39.5GB. As my music collection grows, it would be the phone that I actually end up keeping for years, instead of random upgrades when I find a cheap one (January I got a 16GB 3G for $60 with a shattered screen, replaced every part except for the chrome bezel and the logic board, then July I found my current 8GB 3GS at a pawn shop also for $60). I'm not going to deal with the data usage for iCloud, battery drain of constant 3G streaming, etc... I really hope this rumor to be true.
So sad that there is no new iPhone.
The newness is always about a redesign and something different.
As for the people saying, they don't expect Apple to introduce a redesign every year comparing it to iMacs/MacBooks/Pros should understand the following:
- There are people who buy phones every 12 months. I guess most of the people in the UK buy phones every 18/24 months. People who bought the new iPhone are nearing the end of their contract. If the next iPhone is going to last another 15 - 17 months, people will not be interested in upgrading just for the sake of it. People like new things.
- Also, Apple cannot just have the same design for 2.5-3 years. The industry is moving fast as compared to notebooks that people buy every 3-4 years.
I literally cannot believe there is no iPhone5 tomorrow.
The newness is always about a redesign and something different.
As for the people saying, they don't expect Apple to introduce a redesign every year comparing it to iMacs/MacBooks/Pros should understand the following:
- There are people who buy phones every 12 months. I guess most of the people in the UK buy phones every 18/24 months. People who bought the new iPhone are nearing the end of their contract. If the next iPhone is going to last another 15 - 17 months, people will not be interested in upgrading just for the sake of it. People like new things.
- Also, Apple cannot just have the same design for 2.5-3 years. The industry is moving fast as compared to notebooks that people buy every 3-4 years.
I literally cannot believe there is no iPhone5 tomorrow.
Sorry to go against the grain here.....
Ya know... in all honesty i'd be entirely happy to buy an iPhone 4S, as an up spec iPhone 4. I mean.... It's nice to see Apple going along the route of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. The iPhone 4's design (antenna aberrations, and broken glass) not withstanding, is still a very good design. I don't want to buy one of those oversize screen phones; as I have an iPad which manages far better than one of those ever will.
I kinda feel that I'm not being whingeboi enough, and I'm sure I'll be accused for 'settling for less' etc. But seriously, the larger screen phones aren't enough to sway me away from my current iPhone 3GS. I just don't need the screen real estate. I need a phone that sits in my pocket, and does what I need it to do. and an iPhone 4S is perfectly poised to do that.
My GS is ageing, and needs to be replaced. It's copped a few knocks and scrapes from being.... dropped off my motorbike.... But has performed beautifully with naught a repair needed. It ran out of contract last month.
Ya know... in all honesty i'd be entirely happy to buy an iPhone 4S, as an up spec iPhone 4. I mean.... It's nice to see Apple going along the route of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. The iPhone 4's design (antenna aberrations, and broken glass) not withstanding, is still a very good design. I don't want to buy one of those oversize screen phones; as I have an iPad which manages far better than one of those ever will.
I kinda feel that I'm not being whingeboi enough, and I'm sure I'll be accused for 'settling for less' etc. But seriously, the larger screen phones aren't enough to sway me away from my current iPhone 3GS. I just don't need the screen real estate. I need a phone that sits in my pocket, and does what I need it to do. and an iPhone 4S is perfectly poised to do that.
My GS is ageing, and needs to be replaced. It's copped a few knocks and scrapes from being.... dropped off my motorbike.... But has performed beautifully with naught a repair needed. It ran out of contract last month.
I have a question
What is wrong with the current iPhone 4's design? I mean doesn't it still look "industry leading"???
And why do people want a larger screen??? I mean, doesn't iPhone 4 currently fit everything to the pocket well?
I really don't get it.......
the rumor specs alone makes a really really decent upgrade...
What is wrong with the current iPhone 4's design? I mean doesn't it still look "industry leading"???
And why do people want a larger screen??? I mean, doesn't iPhone 4 currently fit everything to the pocket well?
I really don't get it.......
the rumor specs alone makes a really really decent upgrade...
Apple are clearly going the way of their Macs and Macbooks here...
It is and has been the norm to simply speedbump there Macs with little or no cosmetic changes, I believe they are going this way with there iPhones.
The major changes are going to be OS and internals. They see the culture of changing design as superfluous, the same 'design once' approach that they have used in Mac Pros, Airs, etc for years is being rolled out to ther phones.
Same design = cheaper manufacturing so why change. Fanbois are still gonna buy.
Also, I recall when they brought out the Retina screen it was muted as being way ahead of its time and unlikely to need bettered for 4-5 years, this larger screen rumour is just that, a rumour, there is NO CHANCE they would bring out a larger screen as it would mess up there entire back catalogue of Apps etc NO CHANCE.
I for one will be moving to the Nexus Prime or Galaxy S3 when it comes out. Also I believe tomorrow's announcement is going to be a major fail.
It is and has been the norm to simply speedbump there Macs with little or no cosmetic changes, I believe they are going this way with there iPhones.
The major changes are going to be OS and internals. They see the culture of changing design as superfluous, the same 'design once' approach that they have used in Mac Pros, Airs, etc for years is being rolled out to ther phones.
Same design = cheaper manufacturing so why change. Fanbois are still gonna buy.
Also, I recall when they brought out the Retina screen it was muted as being way ahead of its time and unlikely to need bettered for 4-5 years, this larger screen rumour is just that, a rumour, there is NO CHANCE they would bring out a larger screen as it would mess up there entire back catalogue of Apps etc NO CHANCE.
I for one will be moving to the Nexus Prime or Galaxy S3 when it comes out. Also I believe tomorrow's announcement is going to be a major fail.
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I hope not. I thought the 3GS was going for $49 through att with 2 year contract.
This is my hope for the pricing (w/contract):
iPhone 4, 8GB: $0 to $49
iPhone 4S, 16/32/64GB: $99/$199/$299
Maybe they'll go the way of the iPad on pricing. If they can offer the above AND offer unlocked phones from the start, I'm sold.
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I hope not. I thought the 3GS was going for $49 through att with 2 year contract.
This is my hope for the pricing (w/contract):
iPhone 4, 8GB: $0 to $49
iPhone 4S, 16/32/64GB: $99/$199/$299
Maybe they'll go the way of the iPad on pricing. If they can offer the above AND offer unlocked phones from the start, I'm sold.