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Man those direct comparisons definitely show the weaknesses/strengths of each phone. I gotta say, compared to the Droid I'm a little disappointed with the color/contrast of the iPhone and its audio.. could be personal prefs (saturated vs. truer and whatnot), but just IMO. The blacks in the second vid are definitely poorer for the iPhone than the Droid though.

I'd have to agree. The image in comparison, is a little underexposed looking on the iPhone. However I have to strongly disagree with the article's opinion on audio! The Droid X sounds like the guy is talking into a walkie talkie, while the iPhone is MUCH better in regards to the audio it's capturing.
 
I am sure the droid xiii will blow the iphone 4 away, and then a month later the iphone 5 will come out.
 
Wow, am I the only one who thinks the Droid X video sample (outdoors) looks way better than the iPhone 4 sample? I watched it first without the audio and I assumed the first half was iPhone 4 and the second half Droid, but turns out it was the opposite. I agree the Droid stuff looks a little over saturated, but the iPhone video looks washed out and blurry by comparison with lots of exposure hunting. Not impressed.

One reason is that the guy who recorded the iPhone version didn't tap to focus when he took that clip outside. The second reason is that the Droid X's contrast is artificial. I doubt that's what you see in real life. The high contrast of the Droid X may be preferable to some, but it's way too high for me. You can also fix the low contrast and washed out ness in post but not vice versa.
 
Considering those lists include REAL point and shoot cameras, as well as a standalone HD video camera, I'm not surprised that they are not the top of the lists.

You're right and I'm wrong... thanks for pointing that out. A 13 hour workday and I'm not thinking straight! So it is number 1!!!!!
 
It's not just you, Android phones a cheap disposable garbage. The iPhone is a masterpeice as where the Android phones are just a price of crap.

...which I would somewhat understand if Android phones were less expensive, say $99-$199, but they're priced inline with the iPhone!

I wince whenever I see a side-by-side comparo of the iPhone 4 to the EVO, Driod X, et al. with the 'advantage' going to the phone with the 8 MP sensor. Nonsense. I'm glad to see Apple put more pixels where they belong - on the display, and not where they don't - the camera sensor.
 
...which I would somewhat understand if Android phones were less expensive, say $99-$199, but they're priced inline with the iPhone!

I wince whenever I see a side-by-side comparo of the iPhone 4 to the EVO, Driod X, et al. with the 'advantage' going to the phone with the 8 MP sensor. Nonsense. I'm glad to see Apple put more pixels where they belong - on the display, and not where they don't - the camera sensor.

+1 :) very clever.
 
It amazes me that people still only look at the megapixels in cameras to evaluate their quality. Its been reported for years that megapixels aren't directly proportional to image quality. It's the reason Canon (in my opinion) cameras blow most cameras out of the water, they just have a better lens.

I dunno...hard to beat Nikon glass...

Flamewar? ;)
 
I dunno...hard to beat Nikon glass...

Flamewar? ;)

+1

D3s > 1D (APS-H, WHY?)
24-70 f/2.8 and 70-200 f/2.8 VRII > all canon glass.

Infact I found the argument using Canon odd, since the Canon "side" usually uses "More Megapixels!" as why Canon is better. Where on the Nikon side, especially with the D3s, its "Better High ISO!" due to the lower number, but larger photosites (ok, there's the D3x which is the high MP model, then it comes down to quality of the glass).

I love my D3s.
 
Nikon and Canon make fairly comparable large lenses for 35mm and DSLRs, but Canon, but a wide margin, makes the best small lenses.
 
Despite iPhone 4's overall victory, however, the study found that Droid X beat out iPhone 4 in both color accuracy and audio quality,
They must have had some consumer moron doing the reviewing, then. Because it's pretty obvious the Droid's video is too green and color was over-saturated. But too much contrast and colors over-saturated is how people who don't know anything about picture quality like their HDTVs.

Same with the audio. The Droid was judged better purely because it was eaiser to understand human voices I bet... just like it was in this test video. But that's because the Droid's microphone is weighted towards mid and high frequencies (where speech is). Meanwhile, the iPhone's audio was more balanced, picking up the lower tones in the narrator's voice and softer, less harsh audio overall.
 
Ummm, really, you expect Macworld to give an honest assessment of the iPhone 4 and a fair comparative analysis with other phones?

Seriously. It's like Official Xbox Magazine comparing the Kinect with the Wii controller, or the Move. Its name already imposes a selection bias.

You might as well have written the headline as "Macworld Performs Stenography Admirably."

Won't argue with the Boy Genius Report, though.

Ummm,yes,based on years of reading past reviews.Can you point to any glaring examples of biased reviews?
 
Sound is better on the Droid. iPhone sounds a bit muffled in comparison
 
What is that "Samsung Galaxy" they are talking about? Samsung Galaxy S i900 or the older Samsung i7500? I take that it is the older model, as Galaxy S can capture 720hd 30fps videos... if it is really the i7500 they test there, I wonder why did they omit the newer i9000 (which has better camera if reviews are to be trusted)? And where is the XPERIA X10? Hardly an "objective" review.
 
It's not just you, Android phones a cheap disposable garbage. The iPhone is a masterpeice as where the Android phones are just a price of crap.

There are plenty of well made Android phones and a fair few crapply built ones across a whole range of prices. I have a £99 T-Mobile Pulse and it is a little slow but it works and for one quarter the price of an iPhone I can surf the net, take pictures, record video, make video calls, tether to my laptop, use it as a wifi hotspot, and all the usual phones stuff too. I can configure the homescreen the way I like, not the way Apple thinks it should be. It doesn't have pinch to zoom but I wouldn't say that it is one quarter of the quality of an iPhone at all. That RFD has gone to your head.
 
First party: Apple
Second party: You
Third party: Macworld

Switch second and third around. Third parties have no direct connection to the product, which theoretically means you by choice. Second parties, while independent nominally from the product, have a direct connection to the source product. Macworld, given its history, does have a direct connection, though it has weakened considerably in recent years due to Apple's isolationist tactics.

Other examples of second parties: Namco during the original Playstation era (the Playstation used a modification of Namco's System 11 arcade board for graphics), and Motorola and Umax (who built Macintosh clones in the 1990's prior to Steve Jobs's return to Apple).
 
Don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone, but the fanboyism in this article is overwhelming. First off..

...objective camera tests for both still and video imaging have become possible using the latest devices.

Macworld performed a series of tests...

"Objective" tests by a website dedicated to one of the manufacturer's of one of the products? That's like having the Camaro5 forums do an objective test of a Camaro vs. the new Mustang.


Secondly,

Audio was a bit less impressive on iPhone 4, only matching the Droid X while the Samsung Galaxy took the top spot for smartphones behind the Flip camera.

This sounds like it was written by a PR firm...you almost need a pen and paper to figure out that iPhone4 and DroidX are tied for 3rd/4th. Also notice no nice little blue chart with those rankings on it.

Just sayin...if you want to claim objectivity, don't overtly slant the article in your favor.
 
It's not just you, Android phones a cheap disposable garbage. The iPhone is a masterpeice as where the Android phones are just a price of crap.

You know AppleRules, I was looking through your posts, and you obviously can't lie, but you really are a die hard fanboy. The droid isn't crap. I'm not a fan of Android, but some people (lots) seem to like Android. its preference. iPhone isn't perfect, and some people hate it. You are saying everyone that has issues with their iphone 4 like the Engadget Story, or the series of iPhone problem posts on Gizmodo are BS. I'm sorry, but reception issues are real. Apple isn't perfect, and that was a lame response from SJ about hold it differently.

May I suggest you grow up a little, and accept that Apple doesn't make the best phone in the world, and all iPhone competitors aren't crap, and the engadget Story about reception IS NOT BS?
 
They must have had some consumer moron doing the reviewing, then. Because it's pretty obvious the Droid's video is too green and color was over-saturated. But too much contrast and colors over-saturated is how people who don't know anything about picture quality like their HDTVs.

Same with the audio. The Droid was judged better purely because it was eaiser to understand human voices I bet... just like it was in this test video. But that's because the Droid's microphone is weighted towards mid and high frequencies (where speech is). Meanwhile, the iPhone's audio was more balanced, picking up the lower tones in the narrator's voice and softer, less harsh audio overall.

Who are you to say how people should configure their TVs? What is a measurement of picture quality? Is it like measuring the length of a line? No of course not, it is a subjective process weighted by the viewer's own perception.
 
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