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iPhone 4's Camera Capabilities Evaluated

Thank you! Can all the Android fanboys now kindly SHUT THEIR YAPPERS! :p

Heaven forbid a company seek to ACTUALLY improve camera quality instead of putting out specs as nothing more than meaningless marketing crap that stupid consumers will fall for! :rolleyes:
 
ipadDev said:
I hear what you are talking about on with my own videos. How would you recommend I make my narrative videos I shoot on my iPhone 4 have more audible sound? Simply boost the audio level in FCP?
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Use the headphones with the mic (or a lapel mike with the equivalent jack)

I did a test this morning and it turned out real nice using the Apple headphones. Plugging them in locks out the bottom mike
 
Am I seriously the only one who is getting choppy, grainy video with the iPhone 4, and definitely NOT HD quality???!!!???
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
Have fun viewing VGA video taken with your phone. Sure it can probably take slightly better photos, but overall iPhone > your phone. Your phone doesn't even run a smartphone OS.
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I do indeed have fun with my phone. It records 30frames per second video (I dont use video recording) and the screen DPI is higher than the iPhone, thank you.

What makes the iPhone smarter than mine exactly? Can you define smartphone?

Also, my phone's never dropped a call and I can hold it however I like and the signal doesn't disappear because I am "holding it wrong". :rolleyes:
 
koobcamuk said:
I do indeed have fun with my phone. It records 30frames per second video (I dont use video recording) and the screen DPI is higher than the iPhone, thank you.

What makes the iPhone smarter than mine exactly? Can you define smartphone?

Also, my phone's never dropped a call and I can hold it however I like and the signal doesn't disappear because I am "holding it wrong". :rolleyes:
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Can you play a game, edit documents/spreadsheets, get GPS directions, manipulate images, draw, or listen to online radio? Do you have 3rd party apps that enhance the phone? No. A smartphone is any phone that runs a smartphone OS like Symbian, iOS, BlackBerry OS or Android. Your phone is a glorified cell phone. But most of the hardware doesn't match the iPhone, excluding the camera sensor and screen.

That issue doesn't affect everybody and is a non issue. A few phones cheaper and more expensive than yours have the same issue. My friend's iPhone 4 doesn't have this issue for example.
 
MacRumors said:
At the iPhone 4's introduction at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference, Apple made significant mention of the device's capabilities, noting that while the device carries only 5 megapixels in comparison to the 8-megapixel cameras that are becoming standard on the latest smartphones, the new iPhone offers a great deal beyond simple pixel count that contributes to superior performance.
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See mega pixels doesn't mean quality.

on a side note im sure camera companies will not allow a phone to replace the digital camera market, peoples expectations of camera phones is too high.
 
This is good stuff, precise and to the point, yet thorough. I would be interested in hearing from this same dude about the quality of calls and the antennae situation. Ahem . . the ( non issue ) . :D
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
Can you play a game, edit documents/spreadsheets, get GPS directions, manipulate images, draw, or listen to online radio? Do you have 3rd party apps that enhance the phone? No. A smartphone is any phone that runs a smartphone OS like Symbian, iOS, BlackBerry OS or Android. Your phone is a glorified cell phone. But most of the hardware doesn't match the iPhone, excluding the camera sensor and screen.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes. I can do all those. I also have 3rd party apps that enhance the phone.

I see what you're saying, but I put it to you that it's the iPhone that's a glorified cell phone. ;)

I'm not here to troll or to flame, but the iPhone isn't the best phone there is. It has plus points, like a great OS, but it has many weaknesses too; and I don't want them.
 
MacFly123 said:
Thank you! Can all the Android fanboys now kindly SHUT THEIR YAPPERS! :p

Heaven forbid a company seek to ACTUALLY improve camera quality instead of putting out specs as nothing more than meaningless marketing crap that stupid consumers will fall for! :rolleyes:
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This is exactly what is happening with the whole 3G and 4G stuff..
 
Patcoola said:
See mega pixels doesn't mean quality.

on a side note im sure camera companies will not allow a phone to replace the digital camera market, peoples expectations of camera phones is too high.
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They will if they are a company that doesnt make cameras (apple). How great if they can get buyers who instead of buying a 300$ digital camera just go for the Iphone5 or 6 or whatever it happens to be...
 
koobcamuk said:
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes. I can do all those. I also have 3rd party apps that enhance the phone.

I see what you're saying, but I put it to you that it's the iPhone that's a glorified cell phone. ;)

I'm not here to troll or to flame, but the iPhone isn't the best phone there is. It has plus points, like a great OS, but it has many weaknesses too; and I don't want them.
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No one said it was. A little bit of freudian slip there? :) The iPhone is a smartphone. It's a bit different than a glorified cell phone. My concept of a "cell phone" is something with a number pad, 2.0" or smaller screen, no internet/WiFi and can't do much more than take some pictures/videos, call people, and text. Like a RAZR. A glorified cell phone is something like yours, better hardware but I'd say overall, the iPhone trumps your phone. But as for other smartphones, it has "plus points, [like a great OS], but it [has] many weaknesses too".
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
No where did anyone say Apple was the first to make this claim. Apple just made a claim. And tests/experiments have proved it to be true. Nothing was said about who made it first.
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If it's been proven previously, then how could someone claim it now? A "claim" is a statement which hasn't been proven neither true nor false.

Obviously you missed the original sarcasm of my statement. Perhaps the article in question was poorly worded, apple didn't claim anything they were merely stating a fact. But of course they wanted it to sound that way in the article. So they can tout Apple for providing a higher quality lower megapixel camera, as if no other company has focused on image quality over mega pixel count.
 
MacRumors said:
In still image testing, the two point-and-shoot took top honors, with Apple's iPhone 4 right behind, leading the pack of smartphones, supporting Apple's claim that pure megapixel count is not a sufficient measure of image quality.
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LOL at calling it "Apple's claim", as if this was some bizarre new way of looking at digital camera physics that somehow had to be proven in serious testing -- as if this hasn't been common knowledge for at least 5 years.

Seriously, it's been pretty long since people thought megapixels equaled image quality, and the fact that cramming too many pixels into tiny sensors can actually degrade image quality due to diffraction issues and worse light gathering abilities, should be well known to pretty much everyone that has been paying a little attention to digital photography -- as should the fact that when the higher pixel count isn't hurting image quality, it often will not make it better anyway, because the small size of the lenses used in those cameras only have a very limited resolving power, becoming a bottleneck.

It's amazing that people are still spewing crap like saying the iPhone 4 has exellent image quality "despite the fact that it only has 5 megapixels, with other cell phones having 8" and blablabla. Dumheads, it's excactly because the iPhone only has 5 megapixels (in addition to a larger, illuminated sensor), that image quality is so good.

I'm so happy Apple refused to be part of the megapixel race, which in many camera markets (apparently not cell phones) is completely dead, because people are beginning to learn it has nothing to do with image quality.
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
No one said it was. A little bit of freudian slip there? :) The iPhone is a smartphone. It's a bit different than a glorified cell phone. My concept of a "cell phone" is something with a number pad, 2.0" or smaller screen, no internet/WiFi and can't do much more than take some pictures/videos, call people, and text. Like a RAZR. A glorified cell phone is something like yours, better hardware but I'd say overall, the iPhone trumps your phone. But as for other smartphones, it has "plus points, [like a great OS], but it [has] many weaknesses too".
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Fair enough :)

I still think that a phone that loses signal if you hold it in your left hand isn't so smart ;)
 
karlwig said:
LOL at calling it "Apple's claim", as if this was some bizarre new way of looking at digital camera physics that somehow had to be proven in serious testing -- as if this hasn't been common knowledge for at least 5 years.

Seriously, it's been pretty long since people thought megapixels equaled image quality, and the fact that cramming too many pixels into tiny sensors can actually degrade image quality due to diffraction issues and worse light gathering abilities, should be well known to pretty much everyone that has been paying a little attention to digital photography -- as should the fact that when the higher pixel count isn't hurting image quality, it often will not make it better anyway, because the small size of the lenses used in those cameras only have a very limited resolving power, becoming a bottleneck.

It's amazing that people are still spewing crap like saying the iPhone 4 has exellent image quality "despite the fact that it only has 5 megapixels, with other cell phones having 8" and blablabla. Dumheads, it's excactly because the iPhone only has 5 megapixels (in addition to a larger, illuminated sensor), that image quality is so good.

I'm so happy Apple refused to be part of the megapixel race, which in many camera markets (apparently not cell phones) is completely dead, because people are beginning to learn it has nothing to do with image quality.
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Some people still go by the concept of more is better. While the geeks do not, ordinary people with less technical knowledge still do.

TMar said:
If it's been proven previously, then how could someone claim it now? A "claim" is a statement which hasn't been proven neither true nor false.

Obviously you missed the original sarcasm of my statement. Perhaps the article in question was poorly worded, apple didn't claim anything they were merely stating a fact. But of course they wanted it to sound that way in the article. So they can tout Apple for providing a higher quality lower megapixel camera, as if no other company has focused on image quality over mega pixel count.
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The article was worded to give emphasis to Apple. I did understand the sarcasm behind your comment. However, many manufacturers still want people to be fooled by the more mp is better concept, hence the 8 and 12 mp cameras in Android phones and Nokia phones.
 
I actually thought the Droid video showed richer, more vibrant colors than the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 video looked like the colors were a bit dull or washed out.

Just so you guys don't think I'm a troll, I'm definitely getting the iPhone 4!
 
Obviously, Mp is not the holy grail for great photos, but Mr. Jobs only speaks half the truth here.
Most important issues remain small area sensors (very small really) and cheap lenses.
Well the small sensor being the most important fator at the moment I would guess.
And this iphone is not an exception either, as tests show with that el cheapo p&s

Afaik in the hing end (photo)sector, the limit is in the lens with modern sensors
 
Darkroom said:
three cheers for non-biased, independent testing! :rolleyes:
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Indeed, you are right there, but if you also look at the samples of the jpegs really the EVO shots suck! Well, they all suck but iphone's stand a bit from the croud: focus on the bunny.

Guys, if you want decent photos, buy a camera. Phones are fine and good and you have them all the time with you and all, but don't expect decent results. Anything below u4/3 is a waste of cash. Anything above u4/3 including u4/3 and you are in business
 
iphone 4

The new iPhone looks absolutely awesome and I am very happy for everyone who is happy with it. I am jealous of the improved camera, the improved screen, and the noise cancellation. Yes, pixel count alone does not make a great camera, the iPhone is almost a perfect device, and I agree that the Droids seem cheaper and to lack the polish and thought put into the iPhone.

But my next phone will probably be an Android based phone.

I have used all three of the previous iPhones. I will skip the 4th unless it goes to Verizon. Right now I am simply trying to prevent myself from paying the fee to terminate my AT&T contract for my 32GB 3GS early because I am tired of my phone dropping off of the network while my coworkers and friends on Verizon stay connected. No matter how awesome and improved the new iPhone is: AT&T sucks and my phone is first and foremost a device that requires a reliable network.

Come on Apple...the device rocks, the network sucks...get off of AT&T.
 
Overall... iPhone's camera looks better than Droid X's.
The photo and video comparisons both. I like the inclusion of a Droid X narration microphone though. NICE touch.

This video looks better if you split it side by side and have the droid x on one and iphone 4 on the other... its split up here.
 
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