What part of 'you can't downgrade' don't you understand?
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really? i thought iOS 9.2 was starting to end iOS jailbreaking but there is proof that people are working on the 9.2+ jailbreak
Showing a proof of concept picture or video that might or might not be real and having a public jailbreak available are 2 completely different things.
They have.
And those multiple people have declined to release a public jailbreak. So, while you are correct that they have been jailbroken - there is nothing available to anyone else.
Hence AJ's comment above.
yeah i think he's talking about semi jailbreak and taig 9 beta. all the other publicaly available jailbreaks are fake scams. even iDowngrade tool is the same: a fake scam that ever activates
Agreed. If the jailbreak isn't publicly-available, then the jailbreak doesn't exist. Videos/pictures != proof.
No. If the jailbreak exists, the jailbreak exists. If a well known, respected iOS hacker who has publicly contributed to jailbreaks in the past uploads proof of a jailbreak, it exists.
Just because little kids don't have access to it doesn't mean it's not real.
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I know. That's why I didn't say they were publicly available.
That's nonsense.
A jb "exists" but only 1 person has access to it and that's not even confirmed if it's really truth.
It's like aliens and ghosts
Keep making pointless posts, you're the only one agreeing with yourself
What are you talking about? If a well known hacker in the community says he has a jailbreak, provides proof, has made jailbreaks in the past + has even contributed to Pangu9, and is endorsed by fellow hackers, why even bother arguing?That's nonsense.
A jb "exists" but only 1 person has access to it and that's not even confirmed if it's really truth.
It's like aliens and ghosts
Keep making pointless posts, you're the only one agreeing with yourself
Multiple people have jailbroken iOS 9.2+ and iOS 10, and just because you're jealous that you don't know how, doesn't make them 'fake' at all.
What's the provided "proof"?What are you talking about? If a well known hacker in the community says he has a jailbreak, provides proof, has made jailbreaks in the past + has even contributed to Pangu9, and is endorsed by fellow hackers, why even bother arguing?
Multiple people have jailbroken iOS 9.2+ and iOS 10, and just because you're jealous that you don't know how, doesn't make them 'fake' at all.
Well, a well known hacker, iH8snow, who literally single-handedly jailbroke iOS 4, 5 and 6 for millions of users and created tools such as redsn0w, uploaded a video that serves as proof on his Twitter. He has an iBoot boot chain exploit that he is keeping to himself. Because of this, he can jailbreak any future version of iOS as long as his exploit is kept private and is therefore not patched with future hardware.
Another hacker, Luca Todesco, has been acknowledged by Pangu to have contributed to the Pangu9 jailbreak and he posts literally hundreds of examples of proof on his Twitter. He has multiple userland exploits that he is also keeping to himself.
But keep in mind: those jailbreak can only be their own experimental toys, nothing much. The jailbreak most of us discussed is the one can be utilised by the public, and users can install cydia as well as tweaks, or certain apps on it.
Sure, those "private" jailbreak does exist, given this guy has enough knowledge and resources. But everyone else needs a publicly available jailbreak. Keep this in mind.
Yes that's true, but theoretically either one of the two I mentioned could release their jailbreak and make them public. They've showed that Cydia can be installed etc.
But since jailbreaks are so valuable nowadays, it would be a waste for these hackers who have spent so much time on their exploits to just release them for free and have them patched within a week.
However should this be the case of jailbreaking? Jailbreak always lags system updates. And no exception for iOS 9.2 and above. I completely agree that they are extremely hard to find, and it will only get harder overtime. But, if they dont disclose them, then what is the meaning of this jailbreak? Practice? Or selling it to foreign government and being paid a couple of million dollars one-time fee?
No. Even though they release it for a fee, once it goes wild, being patched is a matter of when, not if. Those hackers can delay this inevitability so long as they control who owns this jailbreak. But then, what about cydia? It is community driven right? I don't know much about it but I believe this is the case. So, not too many users use cydia and tweaks, then community no longer active. Good for jailbreak? Good for guys waiting for it?
What are you talking about? If a well known hacker in the community says he has a jailbreak, provides proof, has made jailbreaks in the past + has even contributed to Pangu9, and is endorsed by fellow hackers, why even bother arguing?
Multiple people have jailbroken iOS 9.2+ and iOS 10, and just because you're jealous that you don't know how, doesn't make them 'fake' at all.
We're talking about public jb releases genius
The rest is pointless.
An exploit and a working packaged untethered jailbreaking program are not the same.
Keep arguing though
Who said we are? LOLWe're talking about public jb releases genius
The rest is pointless.
An exploit and a working packaged untethered jailbreaking program are not the same.
Keep arguing though
It's not really an argument, however much you want one. A jailbreak is a jailbreak. It does not need to meet your special requirements.
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Well, if someone's motivated enough to spend so much time as to find a working exploit, they can use it to do absolutely anything they want to their devices. I doubt many of them are even interested in Cydia (or money) at that point.
Jailbreaks alone have no performance impact. All they provide at their core is root access to the device and its filesystem. Cydia is merely an app installed over the top. They let you do absolutely anything to a device, and the moment a hacker releases it to the public they are back to square one.
That's why most hackers see no reason to make their stuff public, especially since the jailbreak community has become rather rotten and arrogant recently, constantly harassing the actual 'hackers'.
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Ok then no one should ever need to hope a new jailbreak starting from iOS 9.2.
Cydia and jailbreak community deserves what they have done, if "harassment against hackers and arrogant as well as rotten communities" is the current nature of jailbreak.
Some YouTubers mainly contributing on publishing news about jailbreak have switched their focus on other stuff like gaming, due to recent silence of jailbreak news and those fake scams all around.
Maybe we are entering an era which only the extreme tech savvy can jailbreak, while others can only use stock software, and wait for new features being added by software developers. Which word? "Begging for new features and fixes", like this?
well, the public release will be here. eventually. maybe. but i don't know how to code it mysef
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i'm tech savvy but only in computers. i have almost 0 knowlage on mobile phone hardware. and your not kidding on all the fake scams. i first jailbroke my iPad one around last year (with redsn0w) and i never really cared about what the rest of the community was like until now. i don't think i deserve neglagence of my ideas and needs.
According to the thread question and op's discussion he is not looking to code his own iOS jb and he's not asking about root access that only 1-2 people in the world have available .
Again a jailbreak and an exploit are not the same.
Nobody is concerned about your "needs".
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In that case this thread should have ended after post #3.
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I think the OP represents the general jailbreak community quite nicely: impatient, persistent, rude, and unable to take 'no' for an answer!
"did you even read the post correctly? you may need glasses (or contacts)."
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