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iCloud is not a streaming service. It's a place to automatically back up data and sync to all your apple devices. The reasoning behind going to only 8g of storage because of iCloud makes absolutely no sense. You still have to download the songs and store them on your device to listen to them; and then delete them if you want new songs downloaded to your device. The songs still take up storage space ON THE PHONE. iCloud is not spotify or pandora.

You can say it a million times, people still won't get it. =\
 
A distraction? Wow why would a company trick the consumers into thinking they were getting a better product and then crush their expections with a 4S?

He didn't say it was an Apple-orchestrated distraction. Case manufacturers, in responding to rumors and leaks of dubious authenticity, may have caused a distraction.

And I think that when he refers to '4S', he's not saying he's certain that will be an official name, or that it will mark any less of a feature improvement than you could have reasonably hoped for. Just that it's shorthand for distinguishing a phone with the iPhone 4's design from one with an updated design. The distinction is cosmetic.

For my money, I'm happy to stick with the iPhone 4's design. It still looks pretty classy and modern to me.
 
64GB would almost be enough for me to want to upgrade my iPhone 4, but I'll probably just wait for the next one. I could sure use the extra space for music. Come to think of it, Apple upgraded the space on the 3GS to 32GB, so it is about time they upgrade it again.
 
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the glass on my iPhone 4 didn't shatter in the first week I owned it. Nor did it shatter in the week after. In fact, it didn't even shatter in the many weeks that followed. Might I inquire where your data source is for this fascinating information, good sir –*namely this here juicy morsel: "Thousands of shattered glass backs and returns attest to this facts"?

Actually, "Thousands of shattered glass backs and returns..." would attest to the fact that the iPhone 4 design is incredibly *solid*. They've sold, what 30+million of the things at this point?

Let's assume his 'thousands' = 30,000 (an absurdly high number to refer to as 'thousands').
That would mean that they've had a breakage/return rate of 0.1%. That's freaking *amazing*.

IOW: Yet another person who bought into the nega-hype and didn't bother looking into things on own assumes that *someone* having a bad experience means *everyone* has a bad experience. (Or simply a troll.)
 
I kind of see it like this. Maybe this is just wishful thinking though.

16 GB iPhone 4S-$99
32/64 GB iPhone 5-$199/$299
 
One new iPhone. iPhone 4S design model. The cases are a distraction. based on what I've heard.

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It's simply not possible Arn, and if you believe that you are huge fool.

Do I really have to go dig up your rumblings pre-iPad 2 launch? Some thing to the effect of, "despite recent case designs and leaks, it is not expected that Apple will release a redesigned iPad 2, as supply chain checks do not indicate this."

:rolleyes:
 
One new iPhone. iPhone 4S design model. The cases are a distraction. based on what I've heard.

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If the cases are a distraction, why would the leak specs for a design that so many people think looks amazing? If they're meant to distract us from the true product then it should be designed to turn us off, that way we appreciate the iPhone 4 model more.
 
Boasting about your 600GB music collection is funny for a plethora of reasons.

a) Assuming you bought a lot of that music new, you have spent over $50k on music.

b) Assuming you have that much music you may have pirated a bunch of it

c) With that much music, you must have some really terrible stuff

d) With that much music, on shuffle, your only likely to hear a song once every year or two.

e) With that much music, you probably spend more time scrolling through artists, albums and songs looking for something then actually listening to the music.

f) Your a tool for boasting about your music collection

Lol nice post. He's clearly within your description. And why store 600 gigs at 320? 320 is worthless. Either go 256 AAC (better than 320 mp3), or go up to lossless. 320 is a space waster and lower quality compression than 256 AAC.

Not to mention that nobody really cares.
 
Then what do you think of the iPhoto icon?

It always meant nothing

FAKE

Picture of the iPhone above is simply using the jailbreak tweak "fake about screen" which allows you to put in fake values on your about screen: http://www.ijailbreak.com/iphone/cydia-app-fake-about-screen/

The pictures are not the source. They are only there for illustration.

Who is doing the distracting? Apple? I don't know why Apple would get consumers hopes up with some radically different design and then disappoint with a 16 month spec bump.

Good point

What proof is there that this is even from some sort of AT&T store?

Again, the pics are just illustration.

That's why, when I saw the sticker picture of 4S and its Model # and IMEI/MEID #, I saw it as even more confirmation that there will be a separate iPhone 5. Why would you not call your 5th generation model that houses an A5 chip and runs iOS 5 the IPhone 5?

You guys really need to stop smoking whatever it is your smoking and stop with the whole numerology crap. If Apple can find a way to make the A5 cheaply enough, they will put it in whatever they can. 4S, 5, ATV, doesn't matter what it's name is on the outside because 99% of consumers won't know what's on the inside anyway. Product manufacturing decisions aren't made based on the marketing, the marketing is based on the final product.
 
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the glass on my iPhone 4 didn't shatter in the first week I owned it. Nor did it shatter in the week after. In fact, it didn't even shatter in the many weeks that followed. Might I inquire where your data source is for this fascinating information, good sir –*namely this here juicy morsel: "Thousands of shattered glass backs and returns attest to this facts"?

Glass: http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/iphone4-glass-study
 
Lol nice post. He's clearly within your description. And why store 600 gigs at 320? 320 is worthless. Either go 256 AAC (better than 320 mp3), or go up to lossless. 320 is a space waster and lower quality compression than 256 AAC.

Not to mention that nobody really cares.

I store at 320 KBPS AAC. I'd be hard pressed to find someone who can find the difference between that and lossless.
 
If this is true then Apple will for sure be doing one phone that covers both low and high end. No iPhone 4 as a low end model. They will use this one.

By the way, I think that it will be called an iPhone 5 no matter what. I don't think Apple will say "Here is our new A5 chip, new iOS 5, and new 5th generation iPhone called the iPhone 4S."


You are right bro! It will be called the Iphone 5.

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You don't need a 64GB iPhone to do that with iOS 5 you can get iTunes Match.

I really hope there is an 64BG iPhone I have the 32GB and only have about 500mb left.

Too many pictures, videos and apps.


if the Iphone 5 is going to be able to record 1080p video and 8 mp still shots...then you will need more space...64Gb will be perfect depending on what the price is going to be.
 
What has me confused, if indeed this is *just* an internal upgrade à la 3GS is this delay to October for the announcement. Surely with all the time they spent analysing the iPhone 4 antenna + getting the white iPhone out there, they shouldn't have that many problems with the casings any more.

And yes, I know that since they haven't announced anything, there is technically no delay but they changed it from June to October for a reason. If the reason was merely that they want the Fall event to be iPhone related in the future rather than iPod, they could have done that last year (especially since they then were actually having problems with white iPhone), not for Tim Cook's first CEO-presentation with a phone that looks identical to last year's model. Also, the fall event has been in the beginning of September anyway, which doesn't account for the additional "delay".

There is just so much going on that I think that many people would be disappointed if they spent all this time putting newer components in there. (Note that I'm not saying such a phone wouldn't be dramatically better than the iPhone 4, merely that the public perception would see it as a non-event, especially with all the leaked cases. And Apple cares about public perception. The hype is there for a reason.)
 
At this point I don't care what the next iPhone looks like - it could be a identical to the 4 or a complete redesign, all I want is 64GB!!!!!!!

I had to pull my music collection off my phone earlier this year because it + apps exceeded my allocated amount on my 32 3GS. I don't like carrying my iPhone and iPod around at the same time.
 
Hi All,
I believe '4' in apple 'Lets talk , Iphone' not only indicate date but also new Iphone 4 model. It is so bold..its my guess..sorry for off topic reply
 

20,000 iPhone covered by that company. What they didn't say was the total phones they covered in totality. To date they've sold 16.2 million iPhones. I realize that the company making that statement in your links doesn't cover all of these. But hypothetically, we're talking about around .001%. Not really a big deal.

In comparison to a other non iPhones, that are Smartphones, I'm sure the percentage isn't as high, but they still have breaks...

I've owned 2 different iPhones; 3G, and now the 4. I don't baby them, but both were/are in great shape. No scratches, or cracks, etc.
 
I'm excited either way, because regardless of what Apple comes out with, I'm getting a sweet 4-4.3" phone next month. I'd prefer it be an iPhone, but that's up to Apple.
 
He didn't say it was an Apple-orchestrated distraction. Case manufacturers, in responding to rumors and leaks of dubious authenticity, may have caused a distraction.

These case designs appear to be real, and if they're reaching AT&T stores, they would indicate that someone is expecting a new design for the imminent iPhone model. It's possible that Apple have leaked that design to throw everyone off the true scent, but on balance this is incredibly unlikely. More likely is that they actually do represent the new iPhone form factor, or that case manufacturers have been so taken in by someone's unfounded notion of the new iPhone design that they have spent a great deal of money tooling up production runs for a non-existent product. I find that latter possibility highly unlikely too.

Isn't is possible that the new model is being suggested to look like the current iPhone 4 simply because that's how Apple have disguised pre-production units, while the production model will actually fit the new case designs. That seems the most likely explanation to me that accounts for the confused and conflicting rumors.
 
Boasting about your 600GB music collection is funny for a plethora of reasons.

a) Assuming you bought a lot of that music new, you have spent over $50k on music.

b) Assuming you have that much music you may have pirated a bunch of it

c) With that much music, you must have some really terrible stuff

d) With that much music, on shuffle, your only likely to hear a song once every year or two.

e) With that much music, you probably spend more time scrolling through artists, albums and songs looking for something then actually listening to the music.

f) Your a tool for boasting about your music collection

Hear Hear! And anyways, come back when you've legally bought 600GB worth of mp3s/aac's and I might be impressed.

Anyhow, I am definitely for a 64 GB+ iPhone, and I'd be a little bit surprised if we don't see it with this release.
 
These case designs appear to be real, and if they're reaching AT&T stores, they would indicate that someone is expecting a new design for the imminent iPhone model. It's possible that Apple have leaked that design to throw everyone off the true scent, but on balance this is incredibly unlikely. More likely is that they actually do represent the new iPhone form factor, or that case manufacturers have been so taken in by someone's unfounded notion of the new iPhone design that they have spent a great deal of money tooling up production runs for a non-existent product. I find that latter possibility highly unlikely too.

I don't think it's that unlikely. Companies pre-produce all the time, and occasionally on bad / incomplete information. The classic example is that they print up all kinds of Super Bowl paraphernalia showing both teams as winners. The second the game's over, they put the stuff identifying the real winner on sale and ship the stuff identifying the wrong winner off to needy areas.

http://blog.worldvision.org/partnerships/100000-reasons-to-love-the-super-bowl/

Isn't is possible that the new model is being suggested to look like the current iPhone 4 simply because that's how Apple have disguised pre-production units, while the production model will actually fit the new case designs. That seems the most likely explanation to me that accounts for the confused and conflicting rumors.

That's a distinct possibility. But, again, I love the iPhone 4's look, so I'm pulling for that. :D I hate curved-back stuff that defies easy use on a flat surface.
 
32 GB is enough space!!! We need more RAM!!! and More Cores!

And a G5 processor!

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The most important thing I'm looking at for my next iPhone is the storage space. When the iPhone 4 came out, I didn't feel too left out by having an iPhone 3GS. Yes, there are some nice additions to the iPhone 4, but not enough to make me feel that I was really missing out.

Currently, I'm nearly out of storage space on the 32 GB iPhone 3GS and need to be more selective about what I keep and what I remove. Initially, most of the apps were quite small, but a lot of games that are being released are coming in at several hundred megabytes, which is quickly eating away at the available space. Hopefully 64 GB will be enough for the next several years. Considering most of my space is dedicated to music, 64 GB should be good, since most of my music collection is already on my phone and is not likely to increase dramatically in the next several years.
 
Boasting about your 600GB music collection is funny for a plethora of reasons.

a) Assuming you bought a lot of that music new, you have spent over $50k on music.

b) Assuming you have that much music you may have pirated a bunch of it

c) With that much music, you must have some really terrible stuff

d) With that much music, on shuffle, your only likely to hear a song once every year or two.

e) With that much music, you probably spend more time scrolling through artists, albums and songs looking for something then actually listening to the music.

f) Your a tool for boasting about your music collection


Obviously any of you guys commenting on this dont know squat! Im a DJ and i have over 2TB of music. None of which is pirated and barely any from Itunes. DJ's belong to music pools that offer us music with a subscription. And that only accounts for maybe 250gb of my library. I have hundreds of CD's and records that i have transfers to my mac. And as far as using 320kbs thats the standard used. So before you guys go calling someone out to be a pirate know that there are plenty of people that have libraries that large that are totally legit and legal.
 
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