I underlined "I've never experienced any lag with iOS 7 on my 4s" . That and pretty good job are .. well, not the opposites, buy you get my point. If you think 4s is doing a pretty good job you really ought to take a look at iPhone 5s or iPad air. I own both 4s and iPad air. believe me, after iPad air using 4s is a pain.
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iPhone 4S users, will you update to iOS 8?
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I underlined "I've never experienced any lag with iOS 7 on my 4s" . That and pretty good job are .. well, not the opposites, buy you get my point. If you think 4s is doing a pretty good job you really ought to take a look at iPhone 5s or iPad air. I own both 4s and iPad air. believe me, after iPad air using 4s is a pain.
I would upgrade, because I haven't seen anything indicating iOS 8 will have a much bigger impact on system resources than iOS 7.
The iPad mini first generation and iPad 2 both seem to run iOS 7 fine, as well as my iPhone 4S. All of these use the same A5 processor. Although I have to say, the iPad 2 seems to underperform the other two for some reason.
The iPad mini first generation and iPad 2 both seem to run iOS 7 fine, as well as my iPhone 4S. All of these use the same A5 processor. Although I have to say, the iPad 2 seems to underperform the other two for some reason.
Just because newer hardware is better doesn't mean that someone can't consider that it's still pretty good for them on older hardware that they have. Not everyone sees things the same way or actually experiences the same things as some others.
Did you just try to say that "I've never experienced any lag with iOS 7 on my 4s" is your personal opinion? I mean.. dude.. listen.. opinions are opinions. Facts are facts. It's slow. Nothing you can do about it. Even if you try hard and think and make believe that it is what you say it is.. it's not. I still use mine, and i still love it. Doesn't mean it's still cool and fast and doesn't lag. Don't run around in circles here. Look at me, i still use my 2007 iMac. It's not that i'm all for NEW OR WHATEVER. Don't get me wrong. But be objective.
Did you just try to imply that everyone has the same experience? Let's at least pretend to be realistic.
I'm implying that a 3 year old phone, be it mine or yours, performs exactly the same (or almost, but let's take it new, clean) And you *thinking* that it's fast and lag free doesn't mean it is. Your experience has nothing to do with it. I'm feeling you are about to start pulling a "I feel 2+2=5, that's just how i feel".
It doesn't perform exactly the same. Plenty of posts of people with all kinds of phones having battery issues or other issues while many others don't. So while some people might have more noticeable lag others might in fact not. And again "pretty good" is not perfect or great or amazing. No one says that the phone performs as good as new ones or something like that, but it doesn't mean it's actually noticeably laggy for everyone or actually has some sort of issues. Fairly basic reality there. If you are implying that something that has a good subjective part to it like personal phone experience is as purely objective and universal and constant as something like basic arithmetic that doesn't change, well, that's certainly where the flaw is with an argument like that.
I'll say again. I've never experienced any lag on my 4s. It's been roughly the same since I got it. It was used everyday for about two years and intermittently for the last year.
I have a 5s as well and it's obviously a lot faster HOWEVER the point I'm making is that there is nothing in iOS8 which should drastically impact performance on a 4s. If the battery lasted longer, I would easily be able to use it as my everyday phone. A 4s should still be very much usable with iOS8.
Perhaps your experience has been different i.e. maybe you got a 4s with a defect or perhaps the way we treated them has been different. It's a 3 year old phone so of course a 5s is going to be light years faster BUT the point is that there should be no reason to not upgrade to iOS8 on a 4s. Even if there was lag with with your 4s when running iOS7, it would just be another reason to upgrade it if it's so laggy that it's beyond usable.
"It's been roughly the same since I got it" WHAT???? from iOs 5 > 7 roughly the same? Take a moment and try remembering how much it took to open camera app and take a photo and how much it takes now. and that's just ONE example. you're all trippin'. i'm pretty sure i own more apple products than an average fanboy on this forum, but i'd never say dumb stuff like that. it's all LIES. and you all are either blind or just can't remember how it was even a year ago.
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I'm with CDM here. I'm not meaning to pick sides, but various factors including how long the phone has been active (ie. when was the first boot up of the phone) as well as how well it's been charged etc etc can create different results. So one person saying it's lag free isn't a lie, it might well. It depends how well the phone has been treated.
Yeah, look at all of those other mobile device companies whose OS's run on 3-year-old hardware...what a second....
Of course they're going to release new hardware annually, and they don't charge for OS software any more (neither iOS nor OSX). The alternative being what?
To solve this dispute, just simply start Siri, pull up Control Center, pull down Notification Center, send a message, and go to Safari and go to the new tab view, and just watch the animations. With reduce transparency enabled this doesn't really lag, but with transparency it is very choppy. I would estimate it runs anywhere from 20-40 FPS in these situations pertaining to the translucency. Go into the tab view with an iPhone 5 or 5S, then do the same on your 4S, it is incredibly smooth on the 5/5S, where the 4S chops and drops frames. Badly. Next compare Control Center and Notification Center on the iPhone 5/5S to the iPhone 4S. Pretty much perfect 60FPS on 5/5S, but like 20-40 FPS on the 4S, depending on the situation. Siri is also perfectly smooth on the 5/5S, while it stutters on the 4S. Trust me, I have seen this all in person. The 4S is definitely usable, don't get me wrong, but it is just simply silly to say that "There is no lag" on the 4S.
This. Upgraded my ipod 5 and it visibly stutters on most animations whereas my ipad 4/iPhone 5 is ok. Even quitting an app or opening folders causes dropped frames. I'll give GM a shot for a few days so background processes settle but I reckon I'll keep it on ios7.
Yeah I actually am updating my iPod 5 to iOS 8, it isn't my main device, just when I need a more portable alternative to using iMessage or something. My retina mini is my main device. But anyway I made all those examples from my experience on an iPod 5 actually... It's the same thing as a 4S internally, just has new design and newer WiFi chip for AirDrop support. I compared side by side with my moms iPhone 5, and it seriously is a huuuuge breath of fresh air over my iPod 5. I have seen the general performance of a 5S though I haven't really used one that much, but just figure it's better even than the iPhone 5.
Ios 7 killed the 4 and it wasn't until I believe 7.1 that the phone was useable again, but that took months to be released.
Hopefully they won't make that mistake again.
Good grief.
I never said it was fast but it's definitely not slow either. The 4s runs iOS7 the way I expect it to. It's a 3 year old phone with hardware from three generations ago. iOS7 will be better tuned to a 5s however for me, it still works on a 4s. You have obviously had very different experience to what I've had.
You all talk like that. "I've never had any lag" and immediately after that "it's doing a pretty good job". Contradiction. Not having any lags is not just "pretty good job. iPhone 5s doesn't have any lag (or almost? And that's supposed to be perfect) . Then it's "never said fast" but "it's not slow either" Then what it is? Slow but usable? Just not fast enough? Walking circles, that's what it is. Of course it works on 4s, otherwise i would've thrown away mine a year ago. it's not about IF it works but HOW it works. Nothing more to discuss here.
Okay, let's just please stop discussing whether the 4S is lagging or not, some people aren't bothered by this stuttering and don't really notice it that much while others are bothered very very easily by stutters (like me). This problem isn't getting anywhere, and everyone (not just OSXMavericks) is walking in circles, dragging this on. OSXMacericks is obviously satisfied with their 4S, while others aren't. Simple as that. Everybody stop.
Lag isn't everything and not noticing any lag doesn't mean everything is perfect. To try to imply that here's some contradiction between things aren't inherently related is a logical fallacy. And once that's in play it pretty much undermines anything else that might be said. So, yeah, nothing more to discuss there.
It's not the first time it's happened. iOS 4 on an iPhone 3G anyone?, oh and for those who want to say that it wouldn't happen if Steve was still here, iOS 4 was introduced with the iPhone 4, which is very much a phone from Steve's time in charge.
Others are right, the technology has moved on. Moore's law is alive and well in the mobile phone and tablet industry.
I am a "maybe".
I still have my 4s but do not use it as a phone. Now with a 5s, I've re-purposed my 4s for internet radio and jukebox hooked up to my ancient stereo system and I still use the camera on it once in a while.
Unless I come upon a neat feature with iOS8 and assurances it won't gum up the 4s, I may just skip it on that phone.
I am not even sure I will on my 5s. Will probably at least hold off a few months to see how it all pans out with others who jump right in.
Mike
I still have my 4s but do not use it as a phone. Now with a 5s, I've re-purposed my 4s for internet radio and jukebox hooked up to my ancient stereo system and I still use the camera on it once in a while.
Unless I come upon a neat feature with iOS8 and assurances it won't gum up the 4s, I may just skip it on that phone.
I am not even sure I will on my 5s. Will probably at least hold off a few months to see how it all pans out with others who jump right in.
Mike