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Really?

You're the one without imagination if you can't figure that out.

I'll give you two examples.

My roommate flies a small plane. He won't buy the current iPad cause there is nowhere he can put it at the size it is. He really does want one. He's waiting for the smaller one because he knows where he'd put that and it could be put in the cockpit without getting in the way of everything else (and yes, pilots use the iPad a lot. We were just at a convention of other people who have his plane and the iPad was the big thing. They all had figured clunky ways of dealing with the size but I'm sure all of them would also appreciate a size that would fit better in their plane that didn't involve putting it away in some hard to get place when not in use. They were just more willing to deal with clunky solutions than my roommate. None seemed uninterested when he said they are coming out with a smaller one or thought that it would make it too small for use.

I want more of a glorified book reader. In fact, if my mom hadn't given me an iPad already, I would have considered the Nexus 7 (despite having a mac and iPhone and the iPad would work well in that ecosystem) because it's much more what I want need. Something better sized for reading a book (the iPad is too heavy, I want something I can comfortably hold in one hand) that also does some games (the android ecosystem isn't too bad for that). There's a loss Apple would take by not having a 7" (I'd gladly pay a little more to have the tablet be in apple's ecosystem and be able to use iOS's appstore). And yes it would make it lighter (really? You think a smaller size is going to be the same weight?), and also, less weight distribution far from where I'm holding it on the bottom side (balance of it does matter. Even if it is smaller but same weight it is still easier to hold in one hand).

So, I think you are the one who has no imagination when your can't possibly think why anyone would need a small iPad. Remember, not everyone is you and not everyone has the same desires/needs or are in the same situation. You really need to learn that what you want is not what everyone else wants. Or in other words, grow up.

As for the impossible thing, that does not make Apple making a 7" iPad impossible. That makes it improbable. I suggest you learn to use the two words appropriately (or you're going to be eating a lot of crow in life). Now maybe it's impossible (now) for them to make it at a price that people would pay and give them profit, but then again, are you Apple? Do you know for sure they haven't figured out some way? Or what they are planning on doing? For all you know maybe they are willing to lose some profit. Or they managed to finagle some deals that they can sell it at a price it will compete with other 7" (remember, they still have the name for tablets so they can still price some bit more and compete just for having name recognition).

Apple wants a book reader that's more portable. iPad 7 inch with Kindle app: bye bye 7 inch Android readers/tablets, and maybe bye bye Kindle (if the sunlight reading glare issue can be fixed).

Can they get the price point to $200-250? What about subsidies from booksellers? Perhaps someone like BN abandons the Nook for a cut of Apple's income from a subsidized iPad reader (in fact, let's call it the iReader).

Apple is all about the user experience. Ask yourself what you want.

Read books mostly, but want access to Apple's app ecosystem and some email, songs and video? The 7 inch iPad mini or iReader.

Surf the web mostly, with email and video? Need more viewing space? Get the 9 inch iPad.

It's just like the 11 inch and 13 inch Airs. Both have their fans.

Perhaps someone (Eddie Cue) made that case to Steve Jobs before he died, and Jobs relented on his insistence that the 7 inch device would suck.

PS: do you think your friend with the small plane could view his flight charts on a 7 inch iPad?
 
The thing is, more then half the percentage of people who buy iPhones don't even know what a CPU, let alone what it does. Then there's the small percentage of people who know what the CPU is, they know what they want (NFC, bigger screen etc) but because most of Apples sales are to the average person, Apple thinks they can get away with it and do small, incremental updates and every now and then do a big upgrade, and still sell millions. I guess that's Samsungs strong point, there more for the consumer who knows what the company is trying to sell. For the most part, the iPhone is a fashion statement in public, if your seen with one your popular, wealthy and 'cool'. It would be nice if Apple provided a basic consumer and then a more advanced consumer model iPhone.
 
I find it difficult to fathom how such a huge portion of the general population can't grasp this simple piece of arithmetic, akin to people believing that the current millenium started in 2000, when it quite obviously started in 2001.

I'll outline this for people, comprehensively, so that once and for all, people are no-longer at odds as to what Apple's naming scheme indicates.

1: iPhone (2007) i.e. iPhone 1 (Design 1)
2: iPhone 3G (2008) i.e. iPhone 2 (Design 2)
3: iPhone 3G S (2009) i.e. iPhone 3 (Design 2)
4: iPhone 4 (2010) i.e. iPhone 4 (Design 3 - NOT iPHONE 3)
5: iPhone 4 S (2011) i.e. iPhone 5 (Design 3)
6: iPhone 6/4G (2012) i.e. iPhone 6 (Design 4 - NOT iPHONE 4 or 5)

The only argument I've heard supporting the iPhone 5 naming scheme is 'the previous iPhone was 4, therefore the next iPhone should be 5'. If that's the case, then it's not consistent with Apple's naming scheme.

Based on Apple's past behaviour in their iPhone designations, they're either going to call it 'iPhone', 'iPhone 6' or 'iPhone 4G'. Not iPhone 5.

I don't know what to say if you cannot understand how most people would make the mistake of calling it an iphone 5....you must be blind. Most people do not know it is the 6th iphone so they call it a 5 b.c that is the next number. Who cares what is right or wrong...I cannot fathom how someone would not understand people making that mistake.
 
PS: do you think your friend with the small plane could view his flight charts on a 7 inch iPad?

He seems to think so. And no one in his airplane club (dedicated to the plane he has) seems to think it being smaller would be an issue. But they all acknowledge it being so large makes it hard to have a good place to put it and all seem to think a 7" would be a good idea. All their ways of dealing with the size is putting the ipad away somewhere hard to reach and reaching for it when needed and putting it away. If it were 7" there is spots they could put it to keep it in much easier access or constant display in the plane. Which is far better than being able to see more of the chart (really my roommate tends to fold up the paper maps to look at a particular area when he's reading it).
 
You are either moderately decent at trolling or really so full of yourself you're not worth arguing with (Hopefully you aren't in the business of selling stuff or marketing stuff or even trying to find the market for a product or even aiming a product at a market. You won't go far with the attitude that only your uses are appropriate when you are trying to sell stuff. You really want to create a product that will sell or market it towards people you have to have the ability and imagination to realize that other people will have different uses for things than you do or may even have a use for something you do not have a use for).

Either way, this is the last I'll be replying to you. I do feel a bit foolish cause one only looks foolish themselves when they waste time arguing with a fool.

BTW, I'm not a fella. If you want to claim you are so astute as to know exactly what Apple is doing and what there is a market for, you might want to be able to notice a simple thing like a name... tigress usually denotes a female tiger which would probably suggest I'm female ;) .

LOL thanks! Why don't you come down off your uneducated pedestal, and actually talk "marketing" and "Apple".

You're WRONG about the mini iPad, and I really don't care how much that irritates you...you. are. wrong.

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Aside from the incredibly rude comment, you are also quite uninformed. Why would Eddie Cue (who I'll have to guess as an executive VP at Apple is far more informed than you) write an email last November (leaked from the Samsung trial) stating that the 7 inch iPad is quite manageable (with perhaps the exception of web browsing).

The email is all over the internet, and a simple Google search before posting your comment would have made you look less like a fool and would have made the internet a slightly nicer place for a few minutes.

You people are just unimaginable. None of you know anything about the industry, nor do you even have your own opinions. What an embarassment this place is. You simply hang off macrumors articles and use them as your base of knowledge for the world.

Last week there was no chance of it. Now information from Edy Cue leaks, and suddenly its HAPPENING.

Sorry, but its not happening.
 
I've always thought a smaller iPad would come. 7.whatever" is a much more sensible size. It is true that a lot of people thought it unlikely (to put it nicely) in previous threads, but your take on it is a little extreme.
 
I don't know what to say if you cannot understand how most people would make the mistake of calling it an iphone 5....you must be blind. Most people do not know it is the 6th iphone so they call it a 5 b.c that is the next number. Who cares what is right or wrong...I cannot fathom how someone would not understand people making that mistake.

Sorry, was I too subtle in implying I was directing this at those who know the iPhone product history? You must be a little slow, and blind, to not see this given the context in which this comment was made.

I love it when stupid people believe someone else to be stupid because they don't see what's obvious to the intelligent person. Have fun. :rolleyes:
 
People, why all the fuss about this Apple ....

If you like it buy it, if you don't like it - DONT buy it and don't write trash about it on forums. This forum is for interesting an usable info about Apple and it's products. So please have this in mind, when you write something here! ;)

I personally like Apple, so I buy their stuff. It's so simple :eek:
 
That makes no sense. The iPhone 4 was called such because it was the 4th iPhone. Why would Apple call the 6th iPhone "iPhone 5"? If anything, I expect the naming to follow what the iPad started this year. "The New iPhone" is probably what they'll refer to it as.

But the iPhone 3G wasn't called the iPhone 2 though was it?

You're right though, the new one may well just be called the "The New iPhone"
 
Sorry, was I too subtle in implying I was directing this at those who know the iPhone product history? You must be a little slow, and blind, to not see this given the context in which this comment was made.

I love it when stupid people believe someone else to be stupid because they don't see what's obvious to the intelligent person. Have fun. :rolleyes:

those who know the product history are not really the ones calling it an iphone 5. Threads/News Post are saying iphone5 b.c it is generally excepted :p

...imagine John Doe searches google for iphone5 and all iphone6 information is coming up....he would be pretty confused.
 
If the new iPhone looks like that, I'm not bothering. The iPad Mini though... Yes!

Looks like what? pretty much just like the iPhone 4/4s?

please explain the radical differences you find so unappealing?????

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If that's the actual iPhone, then i'm skipping it and sticking with my 4S. Looking forward to the 2014 iPhone then!

please do so, one less ignorant person I have to wait in line behind
 
Looks like what? pretty much just like the iPhone 4/4s?

please explain the radical differences you find so unappealing?????

Sure...

I think having a longer body adds to fragmentation. Maybe most apps wold be able to scale, but there are many that don't. What happens to all the games when this happens?

I don't like the headphone jack at the bottom. Your wires will have to loop to the back, and then back to the front. That doesn't make any sense now, but if you saw it in person, you would understand. It puts a lot of strain on the cords anyway. It'll make it difficult to use some accessories too. The Square card in particular.

The overall silver color was much nicer too. The new black border is too flat for my tastes. But that's not a big issue really, it's more the screen size and new jack placement.
 
Who cares what they call it?

I don't care if the call it the iPhone XXXVII; I'm still going to buy it. I love my iPhone 4S but I'll gladly buy any new iPhone that comes out. Maybe it's an irrational urge to have the latest Apple tech, but what the heck? The price is reasonable and it's a pretty low cost indulgence. I bet they sell 100 million of them.
 
I loved reading that exact quote by forum members when the iPhone 4 was leaked. Funny thing is, those members ended up buying the iPhone 4 months later.

Moral of the story, don't judge until you see it in person (along with Apple announcing its new features).

I said the exact thing about the iPhone 4, I thought it looked like a Sony Ericsson design. Then I saw it in the store... I was amazed. So, I don't say those things anymore.
 
1: iPhone (2007) i.e. iPhone 1 (Design 1)
2: iPhone 3G (2008) i.e. iPhone 2 (Design 2)
3: iPhone 3G S (2009) i.e. iPhone 3 (Design 2)
4: iPhone 4 (2010) i.e. iPhone 4 (Design 3 - NOT iPHONE 3)
5: iPhone 4 S (2011) i.e. iPhone 5 (Design 3)
6: iPhone 6/4G (2012) i.e. iPhone 6 (Design 4 - NOT iPHONE 4 or 5)
This! All other arguments are irrelevant. ;)

It will either be:

A) "The New iPhone" (if they follow the iPad lead)
B) "iPhone 6" (because it's the 6th iPhone just as the "iPhone 4" was the 4th)
C) Some new naming trend (but it won't be "iPhone 5")

I would prefer they call it "iPhone 6". But I would have much preferred "iPad 3" and they didn't do that. I really dislike the fact that iPods don't have unique numbers or names. It's quite a chore to even remember what generation of iPod product you have... so I was really happy when the phones and iPads had unique names... and very saddened by the 3rd iPad becoming just "iPad (3rd generation)". :(

Of course if Apple actually listened to the public, it would be called "iPhone 5". LOL :D
 
I'm actually hoping the new iPhone doesn't come out on 21st September because that's when Borderlands 2 is released in the UK. If they both came out on the same day I would just explode with indecision over which to play with. Maybe Apple could have a word with Gearbox.
 
Mid-September? Sounds JUST LIKE the 4s. I'll say October. A bit of a shame as I've already sold my iPhone 4s. (love you guys who hate contracts to the point in which you will spend 600 on a used phone)
 
happy w/4s...but mini iPad...

I have updated my iphone with every single version and it's gotten to the point that I'm good. My 4s is everything I could ever want in a cell phone. BUT, if a mini iPad came out I would knock people down on my way to purchase one!! THAT would be an awesome update to even the New iPad! I want one really bad!!
 
ipod touch

i think apple's gonna reveal the ipod 6th generation at the same time the iphone 5 comes out:D:):cool:
 
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