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Ironic. You have to buy a Nexus device to insure that you'll get timely update for a device you forked out a bit of money for. :confused:

What if I don't want a custom rom, and the reliability and stability of the actual update like my neighbor has on his Nexus 7? What happens if you're running a custom rom and need to have it sent in for warranty purposes, Does this void your warranty?

Another reason why Apple users enjoy the fact that their devices "just work" and can assure you won't be stuck on 6.0 for nearly 2 years.

Hmm...so if I jailbreak my iPhone, install a modded firmware and screw it up...I can send it in to Apple to get it fixed? WOW! When did this change?

I've been modding iPhone firmware since the 2G was released and have been doing so even up to now for friends and colleagues since I work at a telecom company. While I've never screwed mine up (or ANY of my phones, iOS or Android), plenty people have on both. At least Samsung (yes, I've spoken to their reps), says if you can get it back to stock at least you're golden to send it back in. Apple's the same way.
 
Most of the people posting the S3 Benchmarks are posting the quad-core version. The US version is dual-core, so the comparison should be done on that I think. Also, the one thing that people don't seem to look at is the memory benchmark. The processor speed does matter somewhat, but the memory speed can really be the bottleneck. If you look at the iPhone 5 memory benchmark, then it blows the S3, even the quad-core, away. It is a nice number. I can't wait until the phone is released and all of the different benchmark sites can test it.

You'd think that...but remember, the US is only 40% of the the smartphone world, yet has 90% of the voice. The iPhone 5 will be going across the world, the only difference in hardware being for LTE. Let it match up against world phones.
 
Hmm...so if I jailbreak my iPhone, install a modded firmware and screw it up...I can send it in to Apple to get it fixed? WOW! When did this change?

I've been modding iPhone firmware since the 2G was released and have been doing so even up to now for friends and colleagues since I work at a telecom company. While I've never screwed mine up (or ANY of my phones, iOS or Android), plenty people have on both. At least Samsung (yes, I've spoken to their reps), says if you can get it back to stock at least you're golden to send it back in. Apple's the same way.

Never said it wasn't this way. But I don't have to mod my phone to get an update. So what's your point?
 
I like how at the start of these benchmarks everyone was all about the Apple Chip scoring higher. Now that there are higher scoring socs on the Android side everyone says these benchmarks cannot be trusted and are actual representations of performance and so forth.

Next you guys will be saying how 3.5 is the magic measurement for screen size and anything bigger cannot fit in your pocket/unusable by your small hangs/generates too much heat/drains too much battery/insert random excuse that you will renege on when Apple catches up... oh wait.
 
I like how at the start of these benchmarks everyone was all about the Apple Chip scoring higher. Now that there are higher scoring socs on the Android side everyone says these benchmarks cannot be trusted and are actual representations of performance and so forth.

Of course, becuase the score is an average and was based on a substantial amount of submissions. Some submissions will naturally be above but at the same time, some will be below, all in all it should all balance out to the same score, more or less.

The fact that the score now has risen over 200 points in 2 days, suggests a heavy bias in the submissions for the last couple of days. How come, hmm.. It is strange, I would love to see how the score have developed over time in geekbench because it would imediatelly show that by the time iPhone had 1 submission, the s3 score magically shot up 200 points.
 
I like how at the start of these benchmarks everyone was all about the Apple Chip scoring higher. Now that there are higher scoring socs on the Android side everyone says these benchmarks cannot be trusted and are actual representations of performance and so forth.

Next you guys will be saying how 3.5 is the magic measurement for screen size and anything bigger cannot fit in your pocket/unusable by your small hangs/generates too much heat/drains too much battery/insert random excuse that you will renege on when Apple catches up... oh wait.

It's funny to re-read the first 13 pages.
 
Well the thing is that IF the iPhone is indeed faster companies like Samsung will just make a newer faster one. Then all the current Galaxy 3 owners will be mad because they will no longer be the fastest and they just signed a 2 year contract.

Like all iPhone 4S people??

Those numbers for the 4S are sad..
 
Samsung Galaxy S III
Samsung Exynos 4412 1400 MHz (4 cores)
1751

Asus Nexus 7
NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30L 1300 MHz (4 cores)
1615

ASUS Transformer Prime TF201
NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30 1300 MHz (4 cores)
1507

ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T
NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30L 1200 MHz (4 cores)
1468

HTC One S
Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8260A 1500 MHz (2 cores)
1413

HTC One X
NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30 1500 MHz (4 cores)
1314

Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000
Samsung Exynos 4210 1400 MHz (2 cores)

dont know where you got your stat but the s3 score is much higher
 
. Then all the current Galaxy 3 owners will be mad because they will no longer be the fastest and they just signed a 2 year contract.

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that may be true in the US where most people sign a two year contract

it's not true in france for instance because buying a phone on a two years contract is now more expensive than buying it contract free.
 
Like all iPhone 4S people??

Those numbers for the 4S are sad..

There are always faster phone all you can do is jump in and get one. Like the rumor of the Galaxy 4 this February or March. IF I was going to get another Android phone I would be getting a HTC ONE anyway. I don't "need" the fastest phone to be happy. Also I don't know anything about the 4S other then I would have to go back and see what other phones were scoring at the time of the phones release. Obviously to compare it with a modern phone would be stupid and a waste of time. Even at that it would not matter to me one bit what it scored.

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that may be true in the US where most people sign a two year contract

it's not true in france for instance because buying a phone on a two years contract is now more expensive than buying it contract free.

Yes i've heard that.. and yes i'm talking about the US.
 
that may be true in the US where most people sign a two year contract

it's not true in france for instance because buying a phone on a two years contract is now more expensive than buying it contract free.

I am very happy with my s3 and given that the Iphone has not come even close to catching with quite a few android and M\S phones. I am very happy with it, the iphone needs a whole redesign along with ios, if apple want to compete
 
I am very happy with my s3 and given that the Iphone has not come even close to catching with quite a few android and M\S phones. I am very happy with it, the iphone needs a whole redesign along with ios, if apple want to compete

Yes, it totally looks as if the iPhone cannot compete.

Where do you people come from?
 
the country that has elected the most miserable president ever .... France :D

France got unlimited phone call /sms/mms/ Data plan for 16 €/month without contract
:)
 
lol...CPU clock speed is not the end all. You should read up on computer architecture. Your statement isn't correct even when only accounting for Mac products.

I wasn't talking about clock rates or Mac products at all. I was saying, it's better to have a faster dual-core than a slower quad-core. Obviously, (in most cases) faster is better.
 
I wasn't talking about clock rates or Mac products at all. I was saying, it's better to have a faster dual-core than a slower quad-core. Obviously, (in most cases) faster is better.

If not clock speed, what?

It's like saying my car is faster. Acceleration? Top speed? Lap time on Laguna?

No need to answer...it's pretty clear your statements are grasping at best.
 
I like how at the start of these benchmarks everyone was all about the Apple Chip scoring higher. Now that there are higher scoring socs on the Android side everyone says these benchmarks cannot be trusted and are actual representations of performance and so forth.

Next you guys will be saying how 3.5 is the magic measurement for screen size and anything bigger cannot fit in your pocket/unusable by your small hangs/generates too much heat/drains too much battery/insert random excuse that you will renege on when Apple catches up... oh wait.

Actually even before the hoards of Android fans submitted their scores to Geekbench and the average was lower than the iPhone 5 I still stated that the numbers are not comparable.

Even the fact that the numbers have changed since 2 nights ago is reason alone not to trust the numbers

As Anandtech states - Geekbench is not a reliable metric to compare cross-platform - it's very possible that the iPhone 5 has a faster CPU. It most certainly has a much faster GPU and is therefore faster overall - it remains to be seen about the CPU.
 
Phones, like cars, can be "better" in many layers, saying that iPhone destroyed androids only because it has more efficient SoC (and "better" OS, again it's better on some layers and totally rubbish on anothers) is like saying that old ****** riced up car is better than Ferrari because it has 1000HP custom made engine and vinyl stickers.

That's a nice comparison in fact, iPhone is like beautiful car carved in glass fiber and metal, equipped with new generation engine, problem is it doesn't let you listen to radio, adjust your mirrors or seats, doesn't have seat belts and for some reason it's narrow like new Fiat 500. S3 is like W12 luxury car equipped with minibar, autodriver, customizable interior and loads of stuff, the problem is it's made of composites in shape of pear. New Lumia is like crazy hot hatch with WRC engine and back wheel steering like in forklift, but for some reason it works and it's quite effective. Hard to say what's "better" (but iPhone car's cons and its owners' explaining that they don't really need seatbelts is really funny for Androids, WPs and people who don't give a fudge)
 
Actually even before the hoards of Android fans submitted their scores to Geekbench and the average was lower than the iPhone 5 I still stated that the numbers are not comparable.

Even the fact that the numbers have changed since 2 nights ago is reason alone not to trust the numbers

As Anandtech states - Geekbench is not a reliable metric to compare cross-platform - it's very possible that the iPhone 5 has a faster CPU. It most certainly has a much faster GPU and is therefore faster overall - it remains to be seen about the CPU.

To sum it up, Apple has arrived late to the party and the iPhone 5 is merely on the same performance level as a phone that has been on the market for around half a year now.
 
OK - so the first Sunspider benchmark for the iPhone 5 has been released.

Note that, unlike Geekbench - this benchmark is reliable cross-platform.

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To sum it up, Apple has arrived late to the party and the iPhone 5 is merely on the same performance level as a phone that has been on the market for around half a year now.

As I said - it's too soon to judge - as the benchmark I just posted proves.

The iPhone 5 CPU looks to be significantly faster than the SG3, despite the iPhone 5 being smaller in every dimension, and lighter - and containing a GPU which is twice as fast.

Don't really think that's the same as 'performance level which has been around half a year now'.

And by the way - the SG3 has been available for 3.5 months, not 6.
 
Faster than quad core s3 !!! lol

That's because there is nothing to iOS really. Its just a bunch of icons that launch apps and can't be customized. No widgets, no live updates, no nothing. Its boring as hell but very light and efficient. Of course its going to be faster than a complex OS like Android.
 
That's because there is nothing to iOS really. Its just a bunch of icons that launch apps and can't be customized. No widgets, no live updates, no nothing. Its boring as hell but very light and efficient. Of course its going to be faster than a complex OS like Android.

None of those are running when the benchmark runs.
 

Sorry, but NFC is 100% useless in my country. Nobody offers it.

Wireless charging

Useless, I have chargers everywhere. The wireless charger is cabled too, no?


I stopped listening to radio once the internet came.

Ability to send files through Bluetooth

How often do you actually do this? I have many other options to send files, bluetooth is not worrying me.

USB connector allowing syncing and file operations without iTunes and restrictions

Tons of file manager apps letting you do file operations outside of iTunes. Syncing with a computer is so last year, welcome to iCloud.

Fully customizable home screens

I said useful. What more do you need other than moving icons?

Ability to use video call with any other phone with that feature

Hello Skype.

HD resolution screen

How is that useful?

True multitasking

I'd say the iPhone's multitasking is a much better way to do it.

Sigh. So typical fandroid, you are good at making lists that make no sense.
 
That's because there is nothing to iOS really. Its just a bunch of icons that launch apps and can't be customized. No widgets, no live updates, no nothing. Its boring as hell but very light and efficient. Of course its going to be faster than a complex OS like Android.

Says someone who clearly knows nothing about OS's.

Widgets, unless terribly coded, should never take enough resources to slow a device down.

Do u even know what's under the hood of either OS? They're BOTH complex.

Widgets and live updates are hardly complex, they just aren't part of the iOS look and feel.
 
Sigh. So typical fandroid, you are good at making lists that make no sense.

Others' wants or needs from devices are different so his list may make no sense to you but some of it hits home for me.

Me? I've used Android Beam (NFC) to share data from my phone to my wife's which was totally effortless for example. Other things like USB syncing are all but redundant to me thanks to Google Music and Dropbox.

I love the fact that anyone that finds a feature on a rival platform that iOS is lacking is a "fandroid". Great way to have a discussion there with name calling. That very user confessed to using this:

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Which isn't even an Android handset, nor a smartphone. Some fandroid indeed....
 
Which isn't even an Android handset, nor a smartphone. Some fandroid indeed....

Ah sorry, I'll correct my statement. Troll it is. Has neither device, spends time on Apple forum and tries to convince iPhone users they need useless Android features. In case you didn't notice, he puts quite a lot of effort into making us look bad for being satisfied. How many Apple users do you find on Android forums making the same type of comments?

Hard to say what's "better" (but iPhone car's cons and its owners' explaining that they don't really need seatbelts is really funny for Androids, WPs and people who don't give a fudge)

So me saying I don't need freaking FM radio or customized home screen equals me saying I don't need seatbelts?
 
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