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Maybe this is already being done (if so, I'm not aware), but it would be very nice if PREDICTIONS for iPhone and iPad were tracked. I'd love to see a chart that shows all the predictions, including the dates they were made, what the prediction was, in terms of speculated release dates, and finally, the accuracy of the prediction.

We get ambiguous statements in the MacRumors reports, along the lines of "this analyst/reporter has demonstrated viable sources in the past;" however I don't think there's any hard reporting on how accurate past predictions have been. All we have to do is just think about the iPad2 predictions that were being made as late as January to comprehend how wrong they are ... and that was on the practical eve of release.

I vote for Page 2 as well. Or page 3.
 
Oh yeah, it's all about the software cuz the hardware has reached it's peak :rolleyes:



Hardware wish list
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1021233/
"4" inch Super AMOLED 960x640 screen with full RGB subpixels

4G/LTE Antenna

Proximity Sensor and Antenna Fix

Anti-Glare Matte Gorilla Glass (This is why... http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/29/d...for-your-amus/)

Xenon flash to improve low light performance of the camera

Liquidmetal (New tech purchased by Apple that would allow for lighter, thinner, stronger, cheaper material),

HD/FM Radio Tuner/Receiver and Transmitter -

Bigger Camera Lens and possibly a CCD sensor to allow better low light performance,

Even Better Cameras (8MP, 1080P Video etc) featuring options such as ISO and night vision mode.

Bigger Battery

IR remote functionality to integrate it with other devices, such as Apple TV and Google TV, use it as a universal remote controller, play games on your TV and use you iPod/iPhone as a controller, as a trackpad mouse or a 10/Gui Keyboard and such

Dual speakers with the ability to emulate 3D surround sound as well as a higher volume and vibrate (the current max volume and max vibrate are way too low)

Dedicated Camera Button - This will let users take photos quickly, and would also allow them to take self portraits with far more ease. It currently takes way too long to snap a quick picture.

More efficient Bluetooth 4.0 with file sharing and either Lightpeak or USB 3.0 for faster syncing/charging,

Either remove the home button entirely and switch to a three/four finger pinch in gesture to exit apps or add a LED Notification Light under the home button (preferably multicolored),


Inductive Charging like Palm Pre and if viable touch sensitive back for gestures and gaming functions, a Solar panel to extend battery life, or even a 3D Screen akin to the Nintendo 3DS.

RFID aka. Near Field Communication to let us use it as a credit card, pay toll machines, to let employers use it as an id badge etc. RFID is a really cool tech. I'm sure app developers, given the api, could think of much cooler ways to use it as well."
 
I have a rare disease that tells my brain that I must have the latest and greatest... It nags at me until I obtain the newest update. I've seen doctors all over the world but none have been able to cure me :p

Maybe you should try a newer doctor? :eek: :D :p
 
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I think the current iPod line is just about perfect. I just wish the Shiny Back would go away for the Classic and the Touch. Looks pretty for the first day... then even one scratch blows that.

I think Liquid metal should take care of the scratch problem.



My argument, as well as others, is that you shouldn't have to do that. That's the complaint. They should give an option for a "Vanilla" install, and leave it at that. This is the same issue with Windows. You buy a new PC from DELL, HP, or whoever, and it's filled with all this extra stuff. Sure, I can reformat it, and do all that, but why? It's BRAND NEW. I shouldn't have to do anything, except install the apps I want/need, and files.

If you buy a new Dell or HP, your first step should be to write 0's to the hard drive, then install Linux or some form of BSD.

I'm curious why you would automatically upgrade at all, since you have an iPhone 4 already. What do you expect out of version 5 that you can't do now? I'm not being critical, if that's what you want go for it. I'm just curious why some people plan to upgrade every time, sight unseen.

4G data for tethering (probably unlimited when in 4g) as well as a better screen (Not more pixels, just sharper pixels with better color balance. Perhaps a bigger screen.)

***

As to the timing of the release, the later it is released, the better the selection of components they can choose to put in it. I am hoping for a release on the day after Thanksgiving.


Edited to say: I want an FM radio for when I go to the drive in.
 
Ever since the iPhone came out I've said that it will eventually replace the iPod. That day may be coming sooner than we guessed.

Someday the iPhone will be just like the iPad. There's no 'iPod Touch,' just an 'iPhone' that you buy with or without a 3G or 4G chip. And it's up to you if you want to buy service to go along with it or not. (They could still call it the 'iPhone.' The chip-less one would come with a booklet telling you about Skype and Viber and other wifi phone services.)

Such a device would naturally go on sale before the holiday season, so maybe we're close to that happening. I don't think it'll be this year, but maybe they're getting us ready for the year when it does happen.

Does it really have to be one or the other, why can't both products exist happily.

Look the iPhone and iPod Touch are almost the same thing, and when the iPhone was introduced it was described as the best iPod ever. With that in mind it makes sense for them to be released at the same time. As for the other iPods they do exactly what you expect from a music player, they play music. Oh and they are still selling tones of them!
 
Read this !

What most people are forgetting is that if no iPhone releases in June, I, along with many others will need to purchase the extra AppleCare so my phone still has a warranty.
 
The iPhone 4 will still be the best smartphone on the market when the iPhone 5 comes out.

Holding it back makes a lot of sense at this point.

*facepalm*, not this fanboy again..

Anyway, regards to the topic. The September event seems plausible, and i know many people speculated it to be the case before as well. Makes sense because they can't really upgrade the iPod line that dramatically anymore. Thus they can introduce the new iPhone 5 and iPod Touch together, without people already knowing what the iPod Touch will encompass.

Only question is, can Apple keep the demand in Fall? with iPod line, iPhone and Mac upgrades?

On a side note people, don't put the iPhone 5 and iPad 3 under the same rumor umbrella. Clearly because, the iPhone 5 will come out this year, and the iPad 3 won't.
 
HTC Sensation i'm waiting for uuuuu :) tired of waiting for an jb with every freaking release to get my features back that r common sense on android
 
Sony delays

There was a recent announcement by Sony saying their deliveries to Apple for an 8MP camera would be delayed due to conditions in Japan. I've read other articles suggesting other iPhone components may be in short supply.

The disaster in Japan may have an impact on their release schedule. It might have been tight before, then the earthquake killed it.
 
The best indicator will be whether or not there's an April iOS event. If there isn't, that means previous years' schedules don't necessarily hold anymore. If WWDC is filled with iOS 5 and Lion news, it's possible iPhone 5 won't make an appearance.

However, it's also possible that the new features of iOS 5 are so tied in with iPhone 5 that they don't want to reveal one without the other. For instance, NFC capabilities.

The existence of an independent iOS event also depends on how necessary Apple deems it. Every year we see new features and a bunch of developers get up and squawk about their software. Is that really even necessary anymore? We know the app store rocks and people are making great apps for it.

There's no telling how it will shake out, but I'm not putting any stock in news and media outlets who live and die by page hits and people paying attention to them, especially when apple is notorious for seeding false rumors to plug leaks.

There was a recent announcement by Sony saying their deliveries to Apple for an 8MP camera would be delayed due to conditions in Japan. I've read other articles suggesting other iPhone components may be in short supply.

The disaster in Japan may have an impact on their release schedule. It might have been tight before, then the earthquake killed it.

It may be tied up to the iPad 2 as well. Supply is going to be choked for quite some time, and they share a lot of components even given their size differences. If apple prioritizes iPad 2 availability, it may make sense to them to delay iPhone 5 a bit. It's the best worst problem to have. They can sell so many units of whatever they make, they just have to decide which unit it's going to be of.
 
4G data for tethering (probably unlimited when in 4g) as well as a better screen (Not more pixels, just sharper pixels with better color balance. Perhaps a bigger screen.)
Hmm...the display is already outstanding. I suppose it will probably have 4g, but what if it doesn't? Still upgrading sight unseen? No doubt there will be improvements, but exactly which parts they are nobody knows.
 
Aren't we quickly getting to the point where it's all about the software?

Ok, so we know iPhone 5 will get dual core A5....big deal. It'll be nice to have the extra power, but the iPhone 4 now is no slouch.

Added RAM.....yeah, that would be nice....but not going to suddenly sell more phones because it has more RAM :p

Display won't get any better resolution-wise. Doubt they'd go with a larger screen either.

Better cameras....ok.....still, the iPhone 4 cameras are no slouch, and it's not like it will reach the quality of a nice DSLR with those tiny sensors.

Better graphics processing.....sure.....but it's not like it has to drive a 9.7" screen like the iPad.

I'd say Apple is smartly switching into software mode. Kick ass with iOS5, revamp notifications, make some much needed overhauls to the system, and optimize performance for todays devices (iPhone 4, iPad & iPad 2).

Apple is going to stay ahead with software. That's the way Apple is and always has been.

-Kevin

There is one big area that could use some serious improvement, and it's Apple's core competitive advantage: design!

If they'd make it nicer to grip (without any "bumper" or case crutches to help smooth out those sharp edges) and more difficult to break (lose the glass back), it sure would be a lot more appealing than 4. Also: while I don't think higher resolution would be much of an improvement, a bigger screen might be. Finally: if they do keep the glass back, get the white thing done right already (and why not add other colors too - but this will only look good if the phone has the glass back, just like the front).
 
Originally Posted by dethmaShine

"Simply because htcSensation is 1.2GHz dual core

and... and... iphone5 will have lesser RAM than htcSensation.

Also, Apple is closed and Google is open.

okthxbai"


Ok, I'm convinced.

Also, comparing a product that hasn't been released yet to a product that hasn't been announced yet is a rather weak argument and makes zero sense.

Very funny retort to another Droidhead. These guys make the most ridiculous
statements. They're always good for a laugh!

JohnG
 
I have been under the impression that the iphone would be released sometime at the end of the year, with verzion having had gotten the iphone 4 in febuary, i couldn't see it coming out any time soon
 
I wish I knew more about the fate of the white 4... I got a white 3G the day they came out, so you can imagine how frustrating it's been to have waited so long for the white 4 while able to upgrade anytime. Now we're just focused on the 5.

If the white 4 is gone, I will have waited months and months for a phone that won't be here. Then I won't be able to wait that long for the 5 to come because life with this 3G sucks (and I'm sick of paying the same 100 bucks a month for a slow old phone), so I'll get the black 4. Then I'll be way behind in upgrade ability when the 5 comes out.

K I'm done complaining. Carry on.
 
I believe this b/c Darlymple and Gruber belies this.

Trouble with all these statements is that they are forgetting that Apple can return WWDC to the software guys

AND then do a media event as soon as the day after and still release in June/July.

The lack of new component shipments could be simply due to the fact that Apple is using components that also appear in existing products and Apple doesn't spell out what the components are being used for when they order them. So what someone might think is just more chips to fill the ipad 2 demand could be only part that and part for a new phone (for example)
 
Exactly in the same boat except my 3G has a shattered screen with bits of glass that has fallen off. It has gone through hell and back but, I decided to wait since June is only a short wait away. Now, supposedly its been pushed back to september and I am planning on getting a new phone in either june or july since I will have some extra cash and can move to verizon on a family plan. I dont want to get the 4 when the new one is right around the corner. So, this pushing back to september means I'll probably move to the Droid. Hopefully the announcement is still in june and these rumors are just to throw us off since the last iPhone announcement wasnt very exciting since we all knew what was coming.
 
I heard the iphone 5 is delayed because the HTC Sensation has sent Apple back to the drawing board.
 
The Iphone Vs. Android arguemnt is null

iPhone is a great phone and their are some android phones that are just as good. (I can say so much more but not trying to start an argument). But we have entered a time when smart phones have gotten super competitive with one another. Fact is the best new smart phone is being released every other week. When you pick this phone up you see the add on the way home alerting you a phone better is going to be released in a week.

Facts are now we live at a point where you can never have the best smart phone because the companies are doing such a great job to top the last one that no phone is great for more then a week now. You get what you want right now. Do go out attempting to buy the best one because you will be disappointed its not the best one. Get what you want. Wp7, iOS and Android all have there pros and cons.
 
A fall release doesn't really matter to me. Getting a Verizon iPhone 4 next week with a different upgradable line. Then my own upgrade in November. Although hopefully the late release later in the year means Apple is working to put LTE in the iPhone 5 :D
 
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