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Is it possible, let me just throw this wild idea out there. That....no wait, it's impossible.... Or is it?

Ok I'll say it anyay.

Is it possible that..... people who have Android phones could also have a Mac?

:eek::rolleyes:

I seriously doubt it, because they are filling up every Apple-related thread in every damn forum on the internetz with their mindless Apple hate. If you dare to be happy with your phone, you will be labelled a brainwashed fanboy who loves anything Apple puts out. Doesn't matter if all the iPhone's were a huge success or that the iPhone5 rocks even the SGIII at half the size. Just don't see them using Mac's, because they absolutely hate anything that's Apple related. Mac threads are equally trolled by these guys.
 
I'm just saying that sometimes there are many clear advantages and features of Android over iOS that many just brush off because they say they don't need or wouldn't use it. Yet when Apple finally incorporates them it's the "next big thing" (notification menu, folders, turn-by-turn voice navigation, Facebook integration, video chat over 3G). I do admit Android has it's disadvantages too and know it's not perfect. However, for the handful of advantages or features that iOS has over Android, I can name a couple dozen more for Android.

Android advantages are few and far between...and some aren't compelling enough to switch to an Android phone...I won't even mention how many times I had to reboot my DROID or Nexus....I think in the end I would rather drive a base BMW then a fully optioned Hyundai...

and btw I don't begrudge you for using an Android phone...that's your choice. Don't belittle or discount us for liking iOS devices...
 
I have many apple product but I want to see what the battery life is like with LTE and the faster processor. The battery is only slightly bigger than the 4s and we know how the battery life on that is. I wonder how many updates it will take to fix te known battery issues this phone will have.

If people think the new 5 will get anywhere close to what apple says it will your in another world. Take that number and divide by 2. That will be your usage number.

My 4s has had many issues with battery life. I've tried everything they recommend and even replaced phones. Still have mediocre battery life. No where near what apple says. The only way to get those numbers is to have it off


James
 
I seriously doubt it, because they are filling up every Apple-related thread in every damn forum on the internetz with their mindless Apple hate. If you dare to be happy with your phone, you will be labelled a brainwashed fanboy who loves anything Apple puts out. Doesn't matter if all the iPhone's were a huge success or that the iPhone5 rocks even the SGIII at half the size. Just don't see them using Mac's, because they absolutely hate anything that's Apple related. Mac threads are equally trolled by these guys.

Hyperbole. I'm sure there are some. But the majority of people who post have a slew of tech and simply don't always agree that Apple is the best and/or without fault.

Android advantages are few and far between...and some aren't compelling enough to switch to an Android phone...I won't even mention how many times I had to reboot my DROID or Nexus....I think in the end I would rather drive a base BMW then a fully optioned Hyundai...

I love both my iPhone and Skyrocket. Unlike you, though I wouldn't analogize them to cars - especially ones of different classes. I would say - for me - that it's like having a Mercedes or BMW - both are great cars and have their pluses and minuses.

(I won't even mention how many times I've had to reboot my iPhone since you didn't mention how many times you had to reboot your Droid and Nexus)
 
Not exactly.

The software/OS must be designed to take advantage of more cores to make it effective.
agree; no doubt. iOS based on OS X/NextSTEP/BSD and Android on Linux; both worlds have a solid base with a multi-core architecture. Seems one did a better job then the others.

Example 1: I need to distribute flyers around the neighborhood. 4 people to help me would be a lot better than 2. This is a task that can easily be split into 2 or 4 when necessary (but the software has to be written to do this)
Example for parallel processing (Grand Central Dispatch; very easy to use with iOS framework)

Example 2: I need to drive from New York City to Philadelphia. 2 or 4 people helping me would not really matter much. There could be SLIGHT speed ups in the travel time, like some people could be in charge of making sure exact change is available for tolls, others could be looking at traffic reports to re-route us, but generally this task does not improve with the number of cores.
Example for simple sequential processing / queueing.

But I'm still not wrong with the assumption that iP5 with 4 cores would blow the others out of the water. Android would need to change a bit in the (software) architecture to come closer to the native performance of :apple:
 
I love how when apple announced the iPhone 5 all the haters were saying there is no way the iPhone 5 is twice as fast and have the same battery life as the 4S with LTE. It was all marketing gimmicks from Apple.

Well, they were kind of right... According to reviews, the performance is MORE than twice as fast and the batter life is BETTER than the 4S. Both of which are better than any android super phone with the exception of the brick that they call the razr maxx, and it's massive battery in order to achieve it.

Of course not that benchmarks matter anymore. They won't matter until the galaxy S4 comes out. Then they will suddenly matter again.
 
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I still do not get what they have done to be able to be faster with two cores than S3 with 4 cores.

Another thing is that the battery span should be then quite longer, and is not, why??

Isn't Javascript mostly single core stuff anyways .. at least I am not aware of much parallelization going on there certainly not in JS itself.

T.
 
Of course not that benchmarks matter anymore. They won't matter until the galaxy S4 comes out. Then they will suddenly matter again.

No - benchmarks don't matter because it's real world/individual use case stats that matter.

My wife's iPhone can last 2-3 days with her usage. Mine lasts about 7 hours. Benchmarks are nice - but it's what someone does with the phone that's most important.
 
I love how when apple announced the iPhone 5 all the haters were saying there is no way the iPhone 5 is twice as fast and have the same battery life as the 4S with LTE. It was all marketing gimmicks from Apple.

Well, they were kind of right... According to reviews, the performance is MORE than twice as fast and the batter life is BETTER than the 4S. Both of which are better than any android super phone with the exception of the brick that they call the razr maxx, and it's massive battery in order to achieve it.

Of course not that benchmarks matter anymore. They won't matter until the galaxy S4 comes out. Then they will suddenly matter again.

As many have observed, iOS vs Android (and now Apple vs Samsung) is like the old Mac vs PC thing, but much worse than I ever remembered—so much energy put into slandering companies and products, and so much misinformation out there as well.

It's almost like a religious war. Well, at least the trolls are only trashing forum discussions… not foreign embassies.

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Placed in a thread about benchmarks—nice illustration of my point.
 
But I'm still not wrong with the assumption that iP5 with 4 cores would blow the others out of the water. Android would need to change a bit in the (software) architecture to come closer to the native performance of :apple:

Yes - 4 cores CAN be much faster than 2 cores. Grand Central Dispatch in iOS makes it very easy to use this technology, thus I agree that 4 cores for an iOS application would help.

I'm not sure if Android has an equivalent, or if this must be all done manually.
 
I'll be blunt:

Quit dodging the questiong and bringing up Android when I specifically started the topic on iOS's lack of choice.

Bold and funny, but in a very sad, sad way.

Lose the battle over benchmarks, shift into customization, and blame everybody else for not following your lead.

Pardon me for getting in the way of your evangelism, but I'm more interested in the current thread topic, which regards benchmarks.
 
I love both my iPhone and Skyrocket. Unlike you, though I wouldn't analogize them to cars - especially ones of different classes. I would say - for me - that it's like having a Mercedes or BMW - both are great cars and have their pluses and minuses.

(I won't even mention how many times I've had to reboot my iPhone since you didn't mention how many times you had to reboot your Droid and Nexus)
Totally agree with you.
 
Really?

Let's look at UI steps (which you use a lot every day)

1. Main app->open secondary app (e.g. email->open link/file, browser->view pdf etc). To navigating back to main app

iOS
- Tap Home / Double-tap Home
- Look for the main app icon
- Tap main app icon

Android
- Tap back button

2. Basic UI usage
iOS
- To edit item, tap the small arrow on the right of list item
- To delete, swipe on item to call-out delete
- For other options use the slide-up menu
- To change app settings, exit app, go to Settings to change

Android
- Long press on list item to call out menu and select edit or delete or other options or setting

Not entirely accurate. If you're using an iPad for instance you can swipe with 4 fingers between apps much the same way you swipe between applications with the touchpad on an iMac or MacBook.

Also depending on what you're deleting or editing, it is mostly likely as simple as selecting a drop down, selecting what you want to delete/move/edit and hitting "go" - more efficient when deleting a larger number of items.
 
I guess I'm in for a big treat when I upgrade my iPhone 3gs to the iPhone5 next month when my contract lets me. The 3GS started out great but now it crawls.
 
Not entirely accurate. If you're using an iPad for instance you can swipe with 4 fingers between apps much the same way you swipe between applications with the touchpad on an iMac or MacBook.

Also depending on what you're deleting or editing, it is mostly likely as simple as selecting a drop down, selecting what you want to delete/move/edit and hitting "go" - more efficient when deleting a larger number of items.

Sorry - are we talking phones or tablets now? I can't find that goalpost.
 
Sorry - are we talking phones or tablets now? I can't find that goalpost.

He said iOS....not iPhone. Just pointing out he left out some of the more basic ways to do the tasks he listed to make his point.

I have had my Nexus 7 since it came out and I like it a lot. I prefer the larger form factor in tablets, but at $200 it's a great piece of technology.

There are things that are nice, flow-wise, on the Nexus (the back button is one that goes either way for me....sometimes its handy, others not so much) but there are conversely plenty of things UI flow-wise iOS (the operating system, which was what the original post was comparing) does better. Like un-installing an app for instance. Just hold and tap the x. On my Nexus I need to go into the app launcher, find the one I want to delete and then hold and drag to uninstall. Obviously the reason for this is that you can delete apps from the home screen's while keeping them on the device, but to me - if I don't want it on my screen, I'd rather not have it taking up space on my device - hence iCloud wins for me.

That's all. My Nexus has been a little buggy lately, and I unfortunately received 2 units with faulty screens, but I don't expect the level of quality from a $200 device that I do from my $730 device.

To each his own, this useless pandering back and forth is petty and absurd.
 
Customization in my eyes goes well beyond widgets, which I only have *one* of on my android phone (a big transparent clock using a helvetica type font). I dont care for widgets myself, but I would never enforce the limitation on others to not have them if they so chose to.... unlike apple.

I'm talking about lockscreens, notifications, transition animations, keyboards and sizes, contact shortcuts and what is available when pressed, etc. Its a lot of the little things that make the *whole* experience awesome to *MY* liking, not Steve Jobs or Apple's liking.

Then don't buy an IPhone. It's that simple. Not everyone has the same path to happiness.:apple:
 
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