iPhone 5 to Start Production in September?

[LagunaSol]

I'm talking PHONE. Wait 2 years or so on the tablets and it'll be the same thing. Apple just got too big of a head start on tablets.

Tony

Uh huh, sure Tony. Of course this time around Google doesn't have the benefit of complete carrier penetration and the ability to highly subsidize the products from long-term wireless contracts. Trying to apply the Android growth curve from smartphones to tablets will be an exercise in futility.

Good luck with your dream though.

Nope. But a 50" 1080p is better than a 42" 1080p.

It depends on if you have to put it in your pocket.

i'm talking about a user experience as a smartphone, and the iPhone does not deliver, where as Android OS does.

Perhaps solely in the phone part of the equation. Here's the newsflash: the "smart" part of "smartphone" encompasses much more than a voice-driven contact list and actual phone calls.

The iOS ecosystem completely destroys Android, no matter how many widgets you're able to install.

 

[jezza70]

My 3Gs contract ends in June and Apple will be pushing it's luck for me to go half a year without me being tempted to jump platforms instead of waiting for the iPhone 5.

thats a +1 here too i hope this is not true my 3gs is already feeling a bit dated

 

[rerelease]

A 4" screen at the current 3:2 ratio would look absolutely hideous with the general iPhone design (which I doubt they change) and not very sensible in the age where tablets are squeezing themselves between laptops and smartphones (a philosophy which Apple is a strong supporter of).

I'd rather have a more sleek, compact smartphone that fits in my pocket and where the screen doesn't suck the battery dry within a few hours and I expect (and/or hope) to see Apple deliver just that.

 

[Reach9]

Perhaps solely in the phone part of the equation. Here's the newsflash: the "smart" part of "smartphone" encompasses much more than a voice-driven contact list and actual phone calls.

The iOS ecosystem completely destroys Android, no matter how many widgets you're able to install.

You're right, but here's where i think is the difference. Browsing the Internet, Calendar, Checking Mail, Listening to songs, Texting, Multitasking, Notifications, Cut-Copy-Paste, ability to open and use Office files, Navigation system, basic tools like Currency converters, To-Do lists etc. These are what i believe encompasses in a "smartphone", and here's the newsflash: Android OS meets them perfectly.
I'm not talking about widgets, customization, dynamic wallapers etc

The iPhone was late on MMS, Multitasking, Cut-Copy-Paste, and now it's going to be a notification system. Plus, browsing the internet, checking mail and practically everything is much better on a bigger screen.

I feel the App Store is just an added feature, and that's why i'd get an iPod Touch for.
Imagine your iPhone without the App store and all the apps you downloaded from it. Now imagine the HTC EVO without the Android app store. Which is the better smartphone? It's pretty obvious if you ask me.

Android OS already has the "smartphone" features down, and they're just working on the bonus features such as the Android App Store.
iOS on the other hand is catching up to these "smartphone" features. My old Nokia E63 had a better notification system than the iPhone, and that's pathetic.

 

[yadmonkey]

My 3Gs contract ends in June and Apple will be pushing it's luck for me to go half a year without me being tempted to jump platforms instead of waiting for the iPhone 5.

I wouldn't worry. I have an insider source who assures me Apple is basing its entire iPhone 5 product launch on when your contract ends. Here's a direct quote from Steve Jobs:

"While the antenna issues forced us to accelerate our product cycle in favor of a redesign a year earlier than expected, and while the earthquake/tsunami disaster in Japan has added several of its own complications, rest assured that Apple will take every conceivable measure to ensure that the iPhone 5 ships at a time close to the end of mlmathews' 3Gs contract. We have been quite fortunate with the success of out iOS devices in recent years, but we're not about to start pushing our luck here."

 

[LagunaSol]

Browsing the Internet, Calendar, Checking Mail, Listening to songs, Texting, Multitasking, Notifications, Cut-Copy-Paste, ability to open and use Office files, basic tools like Currency converters, To-Do lists etc. These are what i believe encompasses in a "smartphone", and here's the newsflash: Android OS meets them perfectly.

"Perfectly?" Really?

I can do everything you listed above in iOS just as well as Android - and in many cases better - except in the area of notifications. An area in which iOS truly does suck. How Apple has not yet fixed this boggles the mind.

The iPhone was late on MMS, Multitasking, Cut-Copy-Paste, and now it's going to be a notification system.

If you're going to use "late" as a barometer of success, Android was "later" than iOS at doing just about everything else.

Plus, browsing the internet and checking mail is much better on a bigger screen.

Yep, like an...iPad?

I feel the App Store is just an added feature, and that's why i'd get an iPod Touch for.

Of course. Those bajillion apps, most of which completely destroy Android in quality, are an unimportant aside.

Android OS already has the "smartphone" features down, and they're just working on the bonus features such as the Android App Store.

If Google thinks like you - that the App Store is merely a "bonus feature" - this war will be won by Apple.

 

[bushido]

i got the iPhone 4 but also got a new Android because i'm sick of the same old school UI after 3 iPhones and i LOVE my android experience, sure i still use my iPhone 4 for some apps i can't get on the android, but apps r really the only thing that still saves the iPhone. of course its stupid to argue about that on a "mac"rumors site, so i'll just ***** up ^^

 

[eelpout]

And you'll be complaining about battery life and the Android experience in a few days.

Spoken like someone who hasn't used a recent Android device. On my Gingerbread phone I lost like what, 10-12% overnight in 8 hours? Battery life isn't an issue anymore. Though it is acceptable to dislike Android for other reasons.

 

[blackpond]

This is bunk. Apple will not miss Christmas. Period, end of discussion.

If the 5 launches a short while before Christmas, the supply constraints would be 10x worse than they are for the iPad right now.

The only thing this rumor proves is that bloggers, speculators, and analysts are getting irritated with the lack of solid info compared to this time last year.

Apple can create Christmas any day of the year.

 

[bushman4]

Dont believe the rumors from these small brokerage analysts. Possible that Iphone5 won't launch in Juyly but not probable.

 

[Reach9]

"Perfectly?" Really?

I can do everything you listed above in iOS just as well as Android - and in many cases better - except in the area of notifications. An area in which iOS truly does suck. How Apple has not yet fixed this boggles the mind.

"Perfectly" as in, in my opinion perfectly. You don't have to agree with me.

No, you can't.
Checking email and Browsing the Internet is better on a bigger screen. Listening to songs is universal. Texting, some Android phones vibrate when you touch the keys making it feel more real. Multitasking, Android did that long before iOS did and does it in a better way, especially with the "kill all open apps" option. Notifications..that's a no brainer. Ability to open Office files, yes the iPhone does that well, but it's much better with a bigger screen. Navigation system..using an Android you don't have to pay $70 (TomTom) for something which should've come with your device. Basic tools, yes iPhone does that too.
Again, it's preference.

If you're going to use "late" as a barometer of success, Android was "later" than iOS at doing just about everything else.

It was late because other Android smartphones already had these features. These are key features that a smartphone should have, and the iPhone didn't. Again, keep in mind my definition of a smartphone is different than yours.
What did Android release which was later than the iOS which defined a smartphone?

Yep, like an...iPad?

Yup, but not many people want to lug around a 10" tablet and would like the extra screen real estate on their phones. I know i would.

Of course. Those bajillion apps, most of which completely destroy Android in quality, are an unimportant aside.


If Google thinks like you - that the App Store is merely a "bonus feature" - this war will be won by Apple.

Of course the App Store apps are higher quality, but conveniently you didn't read when i said, for argument sake..

Imagine your iPhone without the App store and all the apps you downloaded from it. Now imagine the HTC EVO without the Android app store. Which is the better smartphone? It's pretty obvious if you ask me.

Anyway, i'll have an iPod Touch for the App Store features. Thus having the best of both worlds, i'll be able to enjoy a productive smartphone using Android, and a nice media device with the App Store.

sure i still use my iPhone 4 for some apps i can't get on the android, but apps r really the only thing that still saves the iPhone. of course its stupid to argue about that on a "mac"rumors site, so i'll just ***** up ^^

Well, apps aren't the only thing that saves the iPhone. But, yeah sadly, you're right.

 

[maclaptop]

Where are all these bs claims coming from? Why wouldn't Apple release it in June as always?

I believe there are several factors at work causing this most likely time frame.

1) The effects of Japans disaster on parts supply.
2) Internal issues at Apple regarding more than one model being undecided.
3) Final touches being added to iOS5

Frankly I'd rather have a delay if it meant that Apple's going to make this one their best, most well debugged iPhone to date.

Their is no substitute for excellent final checks through quality control.

 

[LagunaSol]

Checking email and Browsing the Internet is better on a bigger screen....Ability to open Office files, yes the iPhone does that well, but it's much better with a bigger screen.

Ah, so most of the stuff on Android is "better" only because it's on a bigger screen?

So if Apple came out with a 6" iPhone, that would make it better than Android, right?

Navigation system..using an Android you don't have to pay $70 (TomTom) for something which should've come with your device.

And the navigation app I purchased houses all the map data on the device and doesn't rely on a data connection to operate. Unlike Android's stock navigation.

What did Android release which was later than the iOS which defined a smartphone?

Um, how about the entire OS?

Yup, but not many people want to lug around a 10" tablet and would like the extra screen real estate on their phones. I know i would.

There are also people (like me) who prefer not to carry something the size of an old-school Palm Pilot in their pocket.

 

[maclaptop]

Apple can create Christmas any day of the year.

Only amongst those who's entirely sad life, waits in anticipation.

All the while, most of us have much richer, more well balanced lives.

 

[CalBoy]

Apple can create Christmas any day of the year.

Well that's just it; Apple usually relies on two Christmases per year for each of it's major products.

The first is the initial launch and the second is the Christmas shopping season.

The reason for this is two-fold. The first is so supplies are not constrained for an extended period at one time and the second is so Apple can make use of multiple news cycles to get free press.

If the iPhone 5 is launched just before Christmas it would wreak havoc on Apple's ability to supply the market of not only the US, but also the world. Apple usually uses the downtime from late summer to Christmas to shore up production and supplies for Christmas. There just isn't a good basis for this rumor.

 

[ghostlyorb]

I wouldn't mind this being a late graduation present

 

[UK-MacAddict]

If this is true I think Apple are looking to slot yearly iPhone releases into January since the month has been clear for them since they pulled out of Macworld.

If this is the case then I'll probably sell my black iPhone 4 and get the white iPhone 4 if they really do release it this spring. I wanted the white when they came out and if iPhone 5 is being delayed getting the white will be like a new phone anyways

Also I dont think any iPhone will have 4G until 2013 at the earliest. Many countries dont have it up and running yet and I cant seeing Apple making one specifically for the US market. I live in the UK and the networks wont even be able to start bidding for the technology until early 2012 with devices actually showing up until 2013. So I think Apple will wait until its biggest markets for the iPhone catch up before anything is released.

 

[Reach9]

Ah, so most of the stuff on Android is "better" only because it's on a bigger screen?

So if Apple came out with a 6" iPhone, that would make it better than Android, right?



And the navigation app I purchased houses all the map data on the device and doesn't rely on a data connection to operate. Unlike Android's stock navigation.



Um, how about the entire OS?



There are also people (like me) who prefer not to carry something the size of an old-school Palm Pilot in their pocket.

Clearly you missed out how Multitasking, and Notification system is better. And yes, size does matter. If Apple came out with a 4" phone it would be amazing, but still wouldn't be better than Android unless they fix issues like notification system.

Good for you, i like the fact that I don't have to buy an expensive app for something which comes free on another device. But here's the deal, for argument sake i didn't count apps from the App Store or Android App Store. So the stock application Maps on the iPhone is completely premature compared to the Google navigation on an Android.
You're just proving my point.

Right Android based their OS from iOS. But they have surpassed iOS in regards to usability as a smartphone.
When Steve Jobs announced iOS in 07, he said that the OS was 5 years ahead of it's time. Well, he definitely proved it, but 4 years later there are amazing OS around, definitely isn't ahead of its time anymore.

I believe not all the Android phones are massive, you don't have to generalize. The following picture should make things clear:

iPhone 4. Samsung Galaxy S. HTC Desire.

I think the point you're missing is that i can also enjoy these features you're stating with my iPod Touch, and i'll still be able to enjoy the true smartphones, the Android phones.
Anyway, this is my own opinion, you can keep your fanboy perspective as well. Like i said, we don't have to agree.

Who knows? Maybe iOS 5 and iPhone 5 will surprise us all (in a good way). And then i won't be switching.

 

[winterspan]

80%* of potential purchasers won't have access to LTE for at least another year from then. ...

[*made up statistic, but I bet it's not far wrong! ]

Verizon's 4G/LTE service will be live in ~140 metro areas by Q42011

 

[maclaptop]

Do you really think they care? Even if they make a phone that doesn't make calls people will think it's the greatest innovation in the history of mankind.

This is so true it's sickening.

The number one function I'd like to see in the upcoming model is a phone that works as well as every other smartphone I own. Then I'd be able to rely on it, and promote it to my primary phone. Id like nothing better.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Iphone 5 on Sprint?

Verizon will buy Sprint since AT&T is buying TMobile.

 

[Winnychan213]

All i want for iphone 5 is dual core and 1GB ram, was hoping that Apple would do a silent update like they did for the macbook series.

 

[rovex]

All i want for iphone 5 is dual core and 1GB ram, was hoping that Apple would do a silent update like they did for the macbook series.

I don't see 1 gig of ram coming, but It may well be upgraded. On top of what you said, larger screen, 4G, 8 MP 1080p video and FaceTime hd and that would 100% be a worthy upgrade. Sadly, it won't turn out that way.

 

[applefanDrew]

You're right, but here's where i think is the difference. Browsing the Internet, Calendar, Checking Mail, Listening to songs, Texting, Multitasking, Notifications, Cut-Copy-Paste, ability to open and use Office files, Navigation system, basic tools like Currency converters, To-Do lists etc. These are what i believe encompasses in a "smartphone", and here's the newsflash: Android OS meets them perfectly.
I'm not talking about widgets, customization, dynamic wallapers etc

The iPhone was late on MMS, Multitasking, Cut-Copy-Paste, and now it's going to be a notification system. Plus, browsing the internet, checking mail and practically everything is much better on a bigger screen.

I feel the App Store is just an added feature, and that's why i'd get an iPod Touch for.
Imagine your iPhone without the App store and all the apps you downloaded from it. Now imagine the HTC EVO without the Android app store. Which is the better smartphone? It's pretty obvious if you ask me.

Android OS already has the "smartphone" features down, and they're just working on the bonus features such as the Android App Store.
iOS on the other hand is catching up to these "smartphone" features. My old Nokia E63 had a better notification system than the iPhone, and that's pathetic.

Yea that is obvious. The iPhone is better.

 

[Reach9]

Yea that is obvious. The iPhone is better.

Makes sense coming from an Apple Fan