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iPhone 5 Update 'Bigger Than Expected', Coming to Canada October 1st?
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I think it makes sense, really. Don't add something to the device that will invariably increase costs, and that won't really have an impact on a majority of your customers. How widespread is 4G/LTE? How widespread will it be in a year?
Granted, I may be singing a different tune if I lived in an area that offered it.
I have no problem with the current thickness and would no want something thinner is that meant a thinner, thus shorter life, battery.
With WiMax I am getting 10-17Mbps depending on where I am at in LA. The speed is crazy fast and great for tethering.
Amazing work apple at keep a secret this time!
Apple is doing an amazing job this year at keep the lid on the iphone 5 unlike it's iphone 4 problems! No one has any idea what is going on with all the point counter-point "analysts"
Well played Mr. Jobs! Well played!
Apple is doing an amazing job this year at keep the lid on the iphone 5 unlike it's iphone 4 problems! No one has any idea what is going on with all the point counter-point "analysts"
Well played Mr. Jobs! Well played!
When in doubt, go for the jealousy angle. Not everyone is obsessed with having the latest device on the market. Some people are just following the pattern that Apple has established with incremental updates to the phone, followed by big ones. The iPhone 4 was a very big update, so it's not crazy for some to think that this next one would be more along the lines of the 3G->3GS update.
All of Scandinavia has 4G/LTE with 180Mb/s in certain areas (Stockholm). Most European/Asian urban areas have it as well. I'm always astonished when I travel back to the US (grew up in Maine and did a PhD in Texas) and I can't even get a 3G signal or find a reasonable prepaid SIM/uSIM card.
Last month, I found Montreal quite good, but Boston and NYC really poor for signal strength/speed.
Just a few observations. I think the lack of 4G/LTE will hamper iP5 sales in EU/Asia, where prepaid SIM/Unlocked/no contract usage is much higher.
It appears the launch is still on for September: http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ne_5_debut_amid_rumors_of_october_launch.html
I actually believe this more than the October BS.
I actually believe this more than the October BS.
That would make sense, except as I recall, the back to school promotion this year is a $100 gift card, not a free iPod.
I wonder when Apple will be releasing a new iPod Touch... I don't particularly care for one, I'm just noticing that there's a lot of talk about iPad 3 and iPhone 5, but no mentions of the other iOS device, the iPod Touch. And what of the other iPods? Will they be seeing any updates?
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Bigger than expected? Doesn't look like it.
I hope they add more than what this rumor is stating.
From what I gather:
-A5
-GPU (same as iPad 2 GPU?)
-RAM (1GB?)
-Camera Upgrade (front and back?)
-Bigger Screen
-Slight form factor change
Sounds similar to the 3GS upgrade where we got a lot of power but not many features.
I was happy with the 3GS upgrade, but because the older phones didn't have the same power, no developers really took advantage of the 3GS's capabilities. Sure there were some apps here and there, but for the most part every app was designed to run on the 3G, otherwise they'd lose 1/2 their consumer market.
Now when the iPhone 4 came out there were specific features devs could take advantage of that made the experience great. Retina, gyro, front facing camera...etc. I'm just not seeing those kinds of features in this update.
So in the end, it'll run a bit faster but thats about the extent of it. The new phones won't even have LTE, which is the real bottleneck in the system.
I hope they add more than what this rumor is stating.
From what I gather:
-A5
-GPU (same as iPad 2 GPU?)
-RAM (1GB?)
-Camera Upgrade (front and back?)
-Bigger Screen
-Slight form factor change
Sounds similar to the 3GS upgrade where we got a lot of power but not many features.
I was happy with the 3GS upgrade, but because the older phones didn't have the same power, no developers really took advantage of the 3GS's capabilities. Sure there were some apps here and there, but for the most part every app was designed to run on the 3G, otherwise they'd lose 1/2 their consumer market.
Now when the iPhone 4 came out there were specific features devs could take advantage of that made the experience great. Retina, gyro, front facing camera...etc. I'm just not seeing those kinds of features in this update.
So in the end, it'll run a bit faster but thats about the extent of it. The new phones won't even have LTE, which is the real bottleneck in the system.
I really don't care what the new phone looks like or what options 4G/LTE or anything.
I'm just tired of my 3G with a broken home button and I WILL upgrade to whatever the one is released.
I used three different 3G phones to get one working one. :| (and I still need to fix the home button. :|)
I'm just tired of my 3G with a broken home button and I WILL upgrade to whatever the one is released.
I used three different 3G phones to get one working one. :| (and I still need to fix the home button. :|)
This alone should be enough to reassure anyone that the next iPhone wont just be a 4S or something similar.
Mine is not broken but is damn slow. Takes forever for anything to load. Making phone calls is the only thing working normally.
I am with you, just announce the damn phone, I am buying no matter what.
Apple's iPhone event will not fit in anywhere in Moscone, because Apple only uses that for WWDC these days.
Apple tends to use Yerba Buena Centre for The Arts for smaller announcements, maybe you should check their schedule?
Well, it's safe to predict after all these years it won't get any smaller. Thinner & bigger display seem about right, what else is left to do?
However.... rushed or not, the iPhone4 was hardly a flop.
Yes, the iPhone 4 is still quite successful. And that might be a reason why we may see a 4 -> 4S like upgrade.
Enjoy having 80% less battery life. I don't care which phone someone buys, but I am getting tried of everyone I know that as an Android phone and its dead by 8:00pm. And I either can't reach them or they want to use my phone...
Bigger screen? Doubt it.
I doubt any rumors claiming the iPhone will get a larger screen. Remember: Apple created the Retina Display to have exactly double the ppi (pixels per inch) of the previous iPhone models because it made it easy---for themselves and for third-party developers---to update the graphics to take advantage of the new screen.
Moreover, and this is important, it also made it easy for developers to ignore the Retina Display if they so chose---the iPhone used pixel-doubling to scale the existing graphics, and so interface layouts wouldn't suddenly break. If you were an iOS developer, you could get around to supporting the Retina Display whenever you wanted to, but you weren't forced to support it on Day 1. This meant that customers could trust that their apps would work on their new iPhones immediately, and maybe later the apps would look even better. This is the kind of thing that builds trust between customers, developers, and Apple itself, and don't think that Apple doesn't know and value that.
Ok, so suppose Apple gives the iPhone a larger screen. Then there are three possibilities:
1. There are the same number of pixels on the screen, but they're bigger.
2. There are more pixels on the screen, with the same resolution as on the Retina Display.
3. There are more pixels on the screen, with a different ppi than the Retina Display.
Let's take these one at a time.
Same number of pixels on the screen, but they're bigger
The first possibility seems like a bad move, since it would actually decrease the resolution of the display; the ppi would necessarily go down. I can't believe Apple would go this route. The resolution of the Retina Display is best-in-class (or near it)---why would Apple want to lose that edge?
More pixels on the screen, with the same resolution as on the Retina Display
Ok, so suppose there are more pixels on the screen. If the ppi remains the same as on the Retina Display, then the interface layouts of almost every app would break. Developers would have to create whole new interfaces to accommodate the new iPhone, while still maintaining the original interfaces to support older iPhones, and also having to write device-sniffing code to determine which interface to serve. Users with the new iPhone would find that their apps were broken, and they'd have to wait until developers caught up to the new display before they could use them. That's a big headache to dump on your developers and a big rift in user trust, and I can't imagine Apple doing it.
More pixels on the screen, with a different ppi than the Retina Display
On the other hand, if the ppi doesn't remain the same, then what should the new resolution be? In order to avoid breaking interfaces, it doesn't actually need to have double the ppi, it only needs to have double the total number of pixels across the screen in any one direction. Now, the Retina Display has 326 ppi on a 3.5" screen, for a total of about 1141 pixels across the diagonal. A pixel-doubling screen, then, needs a resolution small enough to squeeze 2282 pixels across the diagonal.
So what would be the resolution of such a screen? A 3.7" screen would need a resolution of 617 ppi to fit 2282 pixels across the diagonal, while a 4.0" screen would need a resolution of 571 ppi. Those are monumentally high resolutions, way higher than resolution of the already-best-in-class Retina Display. I have a hard time believing even Apple could make such displays at iPhone-like quantities while keeping iPhone-like prices.
So, long story short: I don't believe any rumors that claim larger screen sizes for the iPhone. It just doesn't seem practical.
I doubt any rumors claiming the iPhone will get a larger screen. Remember: Apple created the Retina Display to have exactly double the ppi (pixels per inch) of the previous iPhone models because it made it easy---for themselves and for third-party developers---to update the graphics to take advantage of the new screen.
Moreover, and this is important, it also made it easy for developers to ignore the Retina Display if they so chose---the iPhone used pixel-doubling to scale the existing graphics, and so interface layouts wouldn't suddenly break. If you were an iOS developer, you could get around to supporting the Retina Display whenever you wanted to, but you weren't forced to support it on Day 1. This meant that customers could trust that their apps would work on their new iPhones immediately, and maybe later the apps would look even better. This is the kind of thing that builds trust between customers, developers, and Apple itself, and don't think that Apple doesn't know and value that.
Ok, so suppose Apple gives the iPhone a larger screen. Then there are three possibilities:
1. There are the same number of pixels on the screen, but they're bigger.
2. There are more pixels on the screen, with the same resolution as on the Retina Display.
3. There are more pixels on the screen, with a different ppi than the Retina Display.
Let's take these one at a time.
Same number of pixels on the screen, but they're bigger
The first possibility seems like a bad move, since it would actually decrease the resolution of the display; the ppi would necessarily go down. I can't believe Apple would go this route. The resolution of the Retina Display is best-in-class (or near it)---why would Apple want to lose that edge?
More pixels on the screen, with the same resolution as on the Retina Display
Ok, so suppose there are more pixels on the screen. If the ppi remains the same as on the Retina Display, then the interface layouts of almost every app would break. Developers would have to create whole new interfaces to accommodate the new iPhone, while still maintaining the original interfaces to support older iPhones, and also having to write device-sniffing code to determine which interface to serve. Users with the new iPhone would find that their apps were broken, and they'd have to wait until developers caught up to the new display before they could use them. That's a big headache to dump on your developers and a big rift in user trust, and I can't imagine Apple doing it.
More pixels on the screen, with a different ppi than the Retina Display
On the other hand, if the ppi doesn't remain the same, then what should the new resolution be? In order to avoid breaking interfaces, it doesn't actually need to have double the ppi, it only needs to have double the total number of pixels across the screen in any one direction. Now, the Retina Display has 326 ppi on a 3.5" screen, for a total of about 1141 pixels across the diagonal. A pixel-doubling screen, then, needs a resolution small enough to squeeze 2282 pixels across the diagonal.
So what would be the resolution of such a screen? A 3.7" screen would need a resolution of 617 ppi to fit 2282 pixels across the diagonal, while a 4.0" screen would need a resolution of 571 ppi. Those are monumentally high resolutions, way higher than resolution of the already-best-in-class Retina Display. I have a hard time believing even Apple could make such displays at iPhone-like quantities while keeping iPhone-like prices.
So, long story short: I don't believe any rumors that claim larger screen sizes for the iPhone. It just doesn't seem practical.
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Woops, you're right! However, I did not find any events on Yerba Buena's Calendar page
http://www.ybca.org/calendarMine is not broken but is damn slow. Takes forever for anything to load. Making phone calls is the only thing working normally.
I am with you, just announce the damn phone, I am buying no matter what.
Yes, mine is amazingly slow as well and to top it off, to change apps, I have to power off and back on. That takes literally about 4 to 5 minutes to do.
I had an issue where the camera was seated properly and it caused the phone to run slowly. I fixed that and it ran great, up until the home button died. Popped the screen off and the contacts on the home button were missing. A good shake and they came out of the case.. :|
So yeah, (to stay on topic.) I careless what the new iPhone has or doesn't have, I'm buying it regardless. Been waiting for the last year when my contract expired and I heard rumors of the iPhone5. 5/4GS, I care not.
RELEASE THE DAMNED THING APPLE!
Woops, you're right! However, I did not find any events on Yerba Buena's Calendar page
I thought they held the smaller events on their campus?