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iPhone 5 Update 'Bigger Than Expected', Coming to Canada October 1st?
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960^2 + 640^2 = sqrt (x)
x = 1153.77, not 1141! You must have skipped Algebra lessons on the Pythagorean Theorem. (LOL, I kid, I kid!)
3.7 is at 311.83.
4" would be 288.44 dpi btw.
lots of people, like myself, are waiting for the next one. we wont pay todays prices for yesterdays phone. so to keep that "best selling" streak going they need to keep wowing the consumer
Now that looks better!
Thanks you Macrumors for you using this Mockup and not the totaly ugly one.
Wonder what the real one will look like, though.
This is MacRumors -- they've been keeping score cards on analysts since 2000...
Apple is doing an amazing job this year at keep the lid on the iphone 5 unlike it's iphone 4 problems! No one has any idea what is going on with all the point counter-point "analysts"
Well played Mr. Jobs! Well played!
Agreed. Now they just have to announce the release date, stat!!! This wait is killing me!!!
As an aside, it is genius that
has the people foaming at the mouth waiting on the ip5. I have a few friends who are chomping at the bit to get one. I say bring on more rumors, the more ludicrous the better!!!
iOS doesn't have arbitrary resolution independence. It can't scale by a factor of 1.06, for example. As far as the iPhone is concerned, iOS has "resolution independence" only in the sense that it supports two different resolutions: that of the iPhone 4 (960 x 640) and that of all previous iPhone models (480 x 320). In other words, it can scale by a factor of 2, but that's it.
I'm still pretty happy with my iPhone 4, but Apple is a company that likes to move forward. They like to lead the pack. By the same token, they also are not known to follow trends "just because".
Strictly from a marketing perspective, sitting tight with more or less a re-run of iPhone 4 would not be a good idea IMO, especially with the competition heating up the way that it is. I want Apple hit another one out of the park!
A bit bigger, thinner, lighter and faster with some UI and feature improvements (Siri acquisition?) and I'd be a very happy boy.
Larger screen and dual core processor? Oh yeah I'd definitely call that "bigger than expected." /sarcasm
Fair enough; I got 1141 by multiplying 3.5" x 326 ppi. But either way, my point is the same: to make a bigger screen, either the resolution drops or the number of pixels increases.
Several people have pointed out that a 3.7" screen would have a resolution over 300 ppi (which is what Steve Jobs claimed was the magical "retina" threshold). This is true, but it still represents a drop in the display resolution of the iPhone. I maintain that this is unlikely. The Retina Display has been out for over a year now, and while few if any other manufacturers have caught up with it, you can be sure they're trying. Is Apple going to lend them all a hand by not only not increasing the resolution of the next iPhone but actually decreasing it?
Look, I'd love a bigger iPhone screen too. I just don't see it happening.
I agree. I can't wait. I'm so happy that the rumors are pointing to a redesign and not a 4s model. Makes skipping the iPhone 4 worth it.
I think you nailed it. Funny, earlier rumors had the iPhone 5 had it pegged as a minor upgrade. As you pointed out, circumstances seem to dictate otherwise now.
I think the concept designs we're being shown are really ugly. If that's anything close to the new design, I say continue using the 4G's look with upgraded components until they can come up with something better.
The only things I really want are Dual Core A5 and 8MP camera. I could care less about the rest of the hardware, Retina display is fine as far as I'm concerned. If they want to make the screen slightly bigger fine, but leave the overall design of the phone alone... because the design we're seeing right now is butt ugly.
The only things I really want are Dual Core A5 and 8MP camera. I could care less about the rest of the hardware, Retina display is fine as far as I'm concerned. If they want to make the screen slightly bigger fine, but leave the overall design of the phone alone... because the design we're seeing right now is butt ugly.
"Just because" implies arbitrariness. I don't think Apple does anything without good reason. It may not always be the best reason, but it's a reason to them that makes sense. Some thought that Apple was stupid for manufacturing Macs without floppy drives. That wasn't "just because"; it was because they envisioned thumb drives replacing floppies. They were ahead of the curve, and helped make it a reality. Same with no Flash in iPhones and iPads. Some think this was arbitrariness, or simple spite towards Adobe, but Apple doesn't take risks with its user base just to make a point. They're changing the game again and accelerating the trend towards HTML5. And it's working.
Either you're explaining it wrong, or I'm mis-understanding you.
What you're describing sounds like resolution dependence to me. The aim/goal of resolution of resolution independence is to keep on-screen items the same size, regardless of the resolution of the screen. So in the case above, the box would be 1" on both the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5.
(This is all probably moot - since I don't think iOS supports non-integer multiples).
Agreed. That is what I meant. Apple won't do something "just because" someone else is doing it. They tend to be a leader more than a follower.
Negative feedback? Yes, I can understand that some people would like a non-glass back. I can understand that Antennagate scared a few people off, but most of the concerns I've heard are fairly subjective to the user and common with any product.
I really don't think this redesign is "last minute". I think they are just taking their time to pull a lot of things together at once. iOS 5, iCloud, iPhone5, etc... that's a lot to bring to market and if anything they learned from the iPhone4 launch... don't rush things.
Is 310 (about) PPI still Retina Display?
Because (1) Apple isn't going to introduce yet another ration this year and (2) Apple isn't going to let Retina Display go away. Maybe that is why 3.7 but not 4"+? (I am of the camp the 4"+ phones look crazy big for a phone).
Aside from streaming Netflix (and even that is pretty good, though I am sure 4G would be higher quality, which is good), I don't really see the need for faster speed for my email, etc. Do some people need it? Sure. And if it is going to really replace the mobile hotspots? Yes, no question. But remember, Apple doesn't go for the fringe (and I would argue those using the iPhone 4 as a mobile hotspot are very much a minority). They will not offer something as a "me too!" just to do it. Just look at the first iPhone. 2G when 3G was in more places than 4G is today.
Ditto. And as I posted above, does 310 PPI equal a Retina Display? I think I remember SJ saying something about "anything over 300 ppi..." so maybe.
Because (1) Apple isn't going to introduce yet another ration this year and (2) Apple isn't going to let Retina Display go away. Maybe that is why 3.7 but not 4"+? (I am of the camp the 4"+ phones look crazy big for a phone).
Aside from streaming Netflix (and even that is pretty good, though I am sure 4G would be higher quality, which is good), I don't really see the need for faster speed for my email, etc. Do some people need it? Sure. And if it is going to really replace the mobile hotspots? Yes, no question. But remember, Apple doesn't go for the fringe (and I would argue those using the iPhone 4 as a mobile hotspot are very much a minority). They will not offer something as a "me too!" just to do it. Just look at the first iPhone. 2G when 3G was in more places than 4G is today.
Ditto. And as I posted above, does 310 PPI equal a Retina Display? I think I remember SJ saying something about "anything over 300 ppi..." so maybe.
And by the time of the next iPhone refresh, 4G/LTE will still not be a reality.