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iPhone 5C a complete waste of time

Was very upset in the price today. I was expecting it to be not as cheap as proposed by rumors, but to be maximum 450$. With such a small difference (100$) there is no longer time to spend deciding....5s all the life! who the hell is going to spend 80$ per month for a smartphone but is so dumb to save 100$ to buy 2012 technology?:confused:
 
iPhone 5C a complete waste of time
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I don't think so. It's going to sell, and sell well. (See? I'm a poet and didn't know it).

There are so many people out there who would love a base iPhone but $200 was still too much for them. Now they can get a new iPhone for only $100, have some durability and color to go with it.
 
Tzuten said:
Why??? Like I said in my other post you are essentially getting a plastic iPhone 5. For me I would look for a used iPhone 5 or buy a remaining stock one at a reduced price. The internals are the same. Unless you want to tote around a phone the easter bunny would be glad to have. If no C you could buy the 5 for 99 bucks too.

There is absolutely no benefit for the consumer if Apple retained their previous model unless like I said you like plastic.
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You're misunderstanding what I'm saying - benefit to consumer is not what I'm talking about, except they just lowered the price today by $100 of the iPhone. *That* is what this is about. The internals are the same, but the average consumer doesn't give a rat's arse about internals, they care about other things, which is why Apple has been moving away from marketing devices based on CPUs and speeds and feeds for quite awhile, especially with iDevices. The average consumer doesn't care about fingerprint sensors or a mildly better camera or 64-bit processor, the 5c is a great phone because as you say it's based on the iPhone 5, which is a great phone still, it's fast and wonderful and the 5c is all that and better (more cellular bands are supported and the front camera is better). The average consumer will merely look at the prices between the two phones and say, "yep, I want the cheaper one, it's an iPhone and it's cheaper." I don't think the 5c is a waste of time, I think it's a terrible misstep on Apple's part because I think people *will* buy it, and it's no different (in the average consumer's mind) from the 5s. If the 5c to Apple is about higher margins, then Apple just switched from a product-oriented company to a profit-oriented company, and I'm afraid it's a signal of more to come. Perhaps not, and I certainly hope not, but what they did today makes no sense.
 
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The 5C will do well, because not every "one/individual" is savvy with the latest specs. Many in America are price-consious, so the 5C will do well as long as it's capable, which it is, of doing the everyday tasks/entertainment that people do on their smartphones.

You asked for "color", you got what you wished for.
 
user-name-here said:
I would trust Apple and their 100+ billion in cash to have the educated specialists that know the market much more than you or I do before releasing products.
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Hmm I remember how well those same people did at making decisions in the early/mid 90s....

Blind apple love is what they are hoping for
 
srsub3 said:
Was very upset in the price today. I was expecting it to be not as cheap as proposed by rumors, but to be maximum 450$. With such a small difference (100$) there is no longer time to spend deciding....5s all the life! who the hell is going to spend 80$ per month for a smartphone but is so dumb to save 100$ to buy 2012 technology?:confused:
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A large number of consumers in the US will.

Tons of people are willing to sign a contract paying $100+ per month for service yet opt for the $0 iPhone 4 or $99 4S when they sign up. It's a total waste but don't underestimate the backwards logic of the average American consumer.
 
WilliamLondon said:
A waste of time, eh? The average consumer will see two products sitting on a shelf in a phone store, one twice as expensive as the other, both iPhones. Do they both run latest OS? Yes. Do they both run all the apps from AppStore? Yes. Do they run Facebook and iMessage and are they both a phone? Yes. Thanks very much I'll take the cheaper one, the one that won't break if I drop it, the one that comes in all the different colours, the one that works, runs apps fast and well and is an iPhone.

A waste of time? Just read the posts on this site, a tech site where people are biased toward faster, most recent technology, stating they will opt for the 5c over the 5s. To the average consumer the price/value of the iPhone will be the cost of the iPhone 5c, not the 5s. Apple made a stupid mistake today, they have just halved the price of the iPhone. Is this a sign of things to come?
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If that's how most people are making their purchasing decisions, then may god help us all. The reality is you have an iPhone for $650, and now you have a "budget" option for $550. Or with contract something like $2400 vs. $2500.
 
JobsGang said:
The mistake you guys made is listening to media.Apple never said the 5c was going to be cheap.
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Post of the day. Anyone who has a hint of how apple operates knew that the 5c would be a $500 phone. Those that thought otherwise were nuts.
 
Its funny the things people are complaining about in regards to the 5C and in regards to Apple's strategies an innovations. The real shift is that previously they were making phones for the American market. Now the primary goal is the Chinese market.

Apple can sell every phone they sell worldwide in China and still not meet demand in the country alone. Two years ago, was the first time their overall revenues came from overseas vs America.

Thats what this event and both these products are about.

You are now a second class citizen. Get used to it. This phone wasn't made for you.
 
If you're on a GSM network, consider the upcoming Nexus phone. Unlocked, far more affordable, and far more value.

It's as great of a time as ever to go Android. Many -- arguably nearly all -- of the issues or concerns that plagued Android of yesteryear no longer exist today, especially if you get a stock Android device such as the Nexus.
 
I posted this in another topic.


the8thark said:
After reading several live keynote text feeds (like we all did) have come to the conclusion that the iPhone 5C is a bad purchase. But why?

The Good

- 5 colours and the plastic finish is nice I'll admit this.

The Bad

- The price. The 5S is only $100 more (pre tax in the US) and $130 more (post tax in Australia). This is outright pricing. And even the contract pricing is similar. When at the extreme upper end of phone pricing (which the iPhone is at) $100 or so is almost not felt.

- Lack of new hardware features in the 5C. The new camera, fingerprint canner, M7 etc etc are all very useful tech you can use.

- the 5S is 64 bit. Does this matter today? For the most part no. But soon enough iOS7 will go fully 64 bit. And by that time will will Apple have stopped support on the 5C and 5S? Quite possibly yes. But there is also another possibility. That at this time, the 5C support is dropped but the 5S support is kept because of the 64 bit. This matters more than you think. The iPhone is slowly becoming like a Mac. By this I mean not something you replace every year or two. And at the very high price point of Apple Phones (higher the almost every wifi full sized iPad) people will not be willing to replace their iphone as much anymore. Thus future proofing your iPhone to get the most life out of it becomes paramount.

- iIn the future (possibly before iOS goes fully 64 bit), some devs could make their apps 64 bit only. That locks out the 5C from ever using them.

- Case finish. This is more a side point and not that bad but to some people this matters. The 5S outer case screams professional looking where the 5C looks more like a fashion accessory. A really good one but still in my opinion that point exists.

So for all those reasons I feel the 5C is not a good buy at all. If the 5C was $200-$300 cheaper than the 5S it'd be an easy buy. But at the given price points, it makes the 5C a very tough buy. Personally before the keynote I had my head set on getting a 5C. After the keynote, I probably wont touch a 5C ever, and will slowly save up for the 5S or 6 (which ever comes first after I save up for the high cost). The keynote basically destroyed my want of a 5C. And I think the keynote has done so for others too.

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The just a phone people have the 4S (cause it's cheaper). And the tech geeks have the 5S. Why does apple need a middle man phone (5C)?
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The problem with this thread is that it's a waste of time to you. To a large majority of the market, the story is different.

Most people will continue to purchase phones on contracts, justifying the $100 price as opposed to the $200 5S.

Emerging markets in China and other Asian countries are drawn to this color scheme and overall design. It is no mistake that iPhone 5C will be available on launch day in China.

The multiple colors also appeal to both younger and older demographics, which I'm sure will saturate that market. 13-17 year olds and 50+ year olds who love the lime green. Not 20-35 year old tech nerds.

The iPhone 5C will sell and sell well.
 
Mortalias said:
The problem with this thread is that it's a waste of time to you. To a large majority of the market, the story is different.

Most people will continue to purchase phones on contracts, justifying the $100 price as opposed to the $200 5S.

Emerging markets in China and other Asian countries are drawn to this color scheme and overall design. It is no mistake that iPhone 5C will be available on launch day in China.

The multiple colors also appeal to both younger and older demographics, which I'm sure will saturate that market. 13-17 year olds and 50+ year olds who love the lime green. Not 20-35 year old tech nerds.

The iPhone 5C will sell and sell well.
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Im a nerd and i want one based on the price, the motion processor and the finger scanner are cool, but id rather just take a. 32 gb model for 199 and then buy a case later...and by the way every case i own is lime green, 32 year old male, American, nerd.... Whatever, im going to upgrade
 
I literally can not say how many times I've seen apple fans saying how crappy plastic phones are to Samsung fans. Saying how much better apple is for not using plastic.

Now apple release a plastic phone and they defend it to the hilt.

There's no perspective. It will sell because so, so many people blindly take anything apple throws out ad the best. Amazing. Innovative. Apple reinvent the wheel every year and its always better. And anyone who doesn't agree is simply dismissed as not being able to afford it.

Apples biggest achievement is its marketing. It's amazing. They've turned themselves onto almost cult status with phenomenal marketing.

Personally. I think the 5c is pointless. It's not a budget phone, there will be no market share taken from android/windows users looking to move to iOS bur not willing to spend half a grand on their phones. And £469 for a plastic iPhone 5 is outrageous.

I love my iPhone. I love my iPad. I love my iPod. I like the apple Eco system. I like iOS. I like the familiarity and simplicity. I like how it 'just works'. I like the stability. I'll stay with iPhone because it is the perfect phone for me.

But I also have perspective. Apple had a chance to steal a lot of the 'budget' market with the 5c. They failed. Badly.
 
lyceumHQ said:
I literally can not say how many times I've seen apple fans saying how crappy plastic phones are to Samsung fans. Saying how much better apple is for not using plastic.

Now apple release a plastic phone and they defend it to the hilt.

There's no perspective. It will sell because so, so many people blindly take anything apple throws out ad the best. Amazing. Innovative. Apple reinvent the wheel every year and its always better. And anyone who doesn't agree is simply dismissed as not being able to afford it.

Apples biggest achievement is its marketing. It's amazing. They've turned themselves onto almost cult status with phenomenal marketing.

Personally. I think the 5c is pointless. It's not a budget phone, there will be no market share taken from android/windows users looking to move to iOS bur not willing to spend half a grand on their phones. And £469 for a plastic iPhone 5 is outrageous.

I love my iPhone. I love my iPad. I love my iPod. I like the apple Eco system. I like iOS. I like the familiarity and simplicity. I like how it 'just works'. I like the stability. I'll stay with iPhone because it is the perfect phone for me.

But I also have perspective. Apple had a chance to steal a lot of the 'budget' market with the 5c. They failed. Badly.
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Except there is a difference, samsung is making their FLAGSHIP device out of plastic (the 5C is clearly not a flagship in any way), whereas other companies like HTC and apple are sticking to higher quality material.
 
Their flagship device cost less than apples 'affordable' model.

If you're paying that much for a phone and don't mind it being plastic. You're not going to go for a watered down iPhone. Now when a Galaxy s 4 cost less. As does the HTC one.

Flagship android phone (Galaxy s 4 or HTC one) plus change v last years iPhone in a pretty colour.
 
user-name-here said:
I would trust Apple and their 100+ billion in cash to have the educated specialists that know the market much more than you or I do before releasing products.
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Apple and their $100+ billion in cash marketing specialist have seem to miss the boat on many peoples preferences for larger screens. That $100+ billion could have been $200+ billion.
 
this is stupid, Have you seen the price of iphone 5C.

For us who live in asia countries will get screwed as the exchange rates are super high.:rolleyes:
 
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5C is cheaper.....for Apple

The 5C moved into the exact price point the the 5 would have been moved down into. This means that Apple is basically replacing the 5 with a much cheaper to produce phone, while keeping the price for cosumers the same. The phone is not at all more affordable for consumers, it's just fatter profit margins for Apple.
 
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