iPhone 5c Broadens Apple's Customer Base, but Android Continues to Lead in Smartphones

[jlwarlow]

The best life lesson I ever learned from life in America is never to be #1 at anything. The only thing Americans hate more than a loser is a winner. <snip>

I thought that was only true in the UK!

 

[dBeats]

You have to spent a lot of time to find just a link to a ****** device that is not even sold to make the logical jump that 65% of Android devices are like this.

Do you really believe that nonsense?

And, by the way, that device is still an smartphone. You peharphs would like to redefine what an smartphone is, but reality is what it is and this is an smarthpone

That phone IS still sold, it's sold out currently because people in India are buying them in droves. You're just not understanding my point. For every high end Android phone sold in the world, there is easily 2 low end, cheapo phones sold like this one. The 5,000 rupee mark is the hottest selling segment in India. These are stripped down phones that people use as feature phones because they don't have tons of money for data plans or apps. So you can continue to talk like an idiot, or you can read what I've said and realize that cheapo Android phones are the majority sold in the world and when they use marketshare numbers, these phones are included "against" iOS. The reality, is it's cheaper to make a cheap android phone, then to make and/or support a proprietary platform to make feature phones. Otherwise they would truly be feature phones.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

When you look at iOS products, many users will admit that they're often bored of the "same ol' interface, the phone basically looks the same as before, etc." so the diversity is what attracts iOS users to the Android product market. The same happens to long time android users when they finally decide on switching to iOS products.

On one hand iOS users like to overuse the word "fragmented" when hardly any android user is remotely concerned about any fragmentation within their user base. All a user is concerned with is having their own device(s) work the way they need it to.

On the other hand the "fragmentation" also allows for a much more active community of users to create better apps than you can find in the Apple App Store because Apple tells you what you can and can't have on your device that you pay for.

Each platform has its pro's and con's, it's all about choosing the one that best fits your needs.

You misunderstood my use of the concept of fragmentation. The 'average Android user' SHOULD be concerned about fragmentation. There are far too many Android devices out there and far too many different versions of the Android operating system and what ends up to be far too many manufacturers that are providing 'less than adequate' support for those devices. The downside of this is that if your Android device isn't actively being updated by either the user, or the manufacturer, they are vulnerable. Their information is subject to being taken. They are not safe. Privacy becomes even more of an unobtainable thing. People are blindly assuming that 'Motorola' to throw out a name, is concerned with their privacy when they couldn't give less of a crap about it. How many versions of Android are out there? How many updates for those versions have been released? Chances are you will see them all 'in the wild'...

As for the 'I want what I want on my phone NOW Verruca' whine over the iTunes app store, again I have to point out the fragmentation issue, and also the idea that there is effectively no lifeguard at the Android pool of apps. *Anyone* could write a nefarious app and it would be 'out there' and probably wide spread before it's stopped.

No technology is fool-proof, but Android seems to embrace the idea that 'god' makes better fools all of the time, and it's not a problem. Plus, so far, I have not needed or wanted an app that I couldn't find in the iTunes app store so I just don't see the practicality of throwing ones self out into the street...

But far be it for me to advise people to use restraint in throwing their privacy around so freely. Who am I to say that trusting your Android device manufacturer will keep you in mind if there are any important updates is tragically misguided. That's got to be your decision. I'm largely happy with the decision I've made, thank you...

 

[chagla]

Sending file without the aid of an app? On android you still need a file explorer app(built in though) to send file so what's your point? iOS is designed to run apps. You unlocked and go straight to the one that do what you need. And Siri is much better that gNow in my opinion. The tight integration let you do stuff gnow can't (set alarm, send message, update status..) Google multitasking implementation is actually horrible on the phone. I keep uninstalling apps from my phone because of the battery drain. Not to mention the constant need to kill all app every so often to reclaim RAM. It's just a horrible experience

Your other points are valid though. iOS keyboard is a joke after I've tried swype. The thing is both OS have flaws, but iOS provides a better experience for me, and I'm sure the millions of iPhone users feel the same.

android is a real multitasking mobile os. The need to use task manager was so 2010. It sounds like you haven’t used android recently. You also fully misunderstood the other posters comment about file manager. I think the point he was making was that android offers user accessible file system, giving you full access to your files thus allowing you to manipulate any way you wish. That’s very different from ios which doesn’t give you access to your files. Apps and files are sandboxed on ios which is a terrible way. It means if you delete an app by mistake, your files are gone too. Not the case on android.

And those are innovations ? Jeez ! Listen I know there are some thing that android does nicely, but saying it's better is downright daft.. Both products are good but they are DIFFERENT ! External storage and removable battery are mostly only done by samsung, the rest are now offering unibody designs , the free apps are a joke on google play , hell even the paid apps aren't as polished as iOS .. I don't know why you mean by true multitasking but I think iOS implementation is much better .. Maps are overrated as I use navigon because I travel a lot but a fun fact is that iOS devices do not need 3G or wifi to guide you whilst almost every android handset I've used does ..

Disclaimer : I own both iPhone 5s and nexus 4

Apps being “polished” or being “joke” is fully personal opinion. I can say the same about ios apps. Why would you blame the platform instead of the developer? Removable storage and battery varies by manufacturer. Sony, Motorola, HTC in addition to Samsung also offer them.
Ios multitasking is better than android. Can you elaborate on this?
Also your comment about offline navigation needing internet connection on Android is simply false. Apps like google maps, mapquest etc need internet connection because they aren’t offline. Apps like Sygic, copilot or navigon do not need net connection.

How can you say that Siri is a joke when you no longer use it? Siri is amazing, especially after the iOS 7 upgrade she received. Way more natural and intelligent, and only getting better. You position your argument as if Siri is a static thing that's not changing, but she's getting better on a regular basis.

As for not being able to send a file without use of an app, don't forget, iOS was built around the concept of apps. iOS gives you lots of ways to manage files. You're trying to argue that the operating system needs to provide that ability (one way) instead of using apps, yet you also argue that one of Android's benefits of that it gives you choice.

iOS is not as limited as you are trying to describe. You're just forcing it into your own little box definition to serve your needs and argument. Nice try.

(why are you here? trying to "help" people by converting them to your precious Android?)

Ios is severely limited. Have you tried setting home page on safari? Have you tried emailing anything other than picture? Tried sending a small file (not just image) using mms? Have you downloaded any file and try to open it? Do you know where your file is? Did you plug in your iphone on any computer and try to copy any file to it?
See my reply above with regards to file management. You can manage your files on android in any way you like, with or without wires on any computer without any special software.
I think you either need learn a bit more about android or you must not do much on iphone other than calling and using few apps/games. Quite literally anything you don’t like on Android, you can change it without any hackery. Its just a matter of installing the replacement app from google play market. Two minute deal.

 

[viskon]

You misunderstood my use of the concept of fragmentation. The 'average Android user' SHOULD be concerned about fragmentation. There are far too many Android devices out there and far too many different versions of the Android operating system and what ends up to be far too many manufacturers that are providing 'less than adequate' support for those devices. The downside of this is that if your Android device isn't actively being updated by either the user, or the manufacturer, they are vulnerable. Their information is subject to being taken. They are not safe. Privacy becomes even more of an unobtainable thing. People are blindly assuming that 'Motorola' to throw out a name, is concerned with their privacy when they couldn't give less of a crap about it. How many versions of Android are out there? How many updates for those versions have been released? Chances are you will see them all 'in the wild'...

As for the 'I want what I want on my phone NOW Verruca' whine over the iTunes app store, again I have to point out the fragmentation issue, and also the idea that there is effectively no lifeguard at the Android pool of apps. *Anyone* could write a nefarious app and it would be 'out there' and probably wide spread before it's stopped.

No technology is fool-proof, but Android seems to embrace the idea that 'god' makes better fools all of the time, and it's not a problem. Plus, so far, I have not needed or wanted an app that I couldn't find in the iTunes app store so I just don't see the practicality of throwing ones self out into the street...

But far be it for me to advise people to use restraint in throwing their privacy around so freely. Who am I to say that trusting your Android device manufacturer will keep you in mind if there are any important updates is tragically misguided. That's got to be your decision. I'm largely happy with the decision I've made, thank you...

Android fragmentation being a problem is a myth perpetuated by Apple and regurgitated on these forums. I switch from Gingerbread to Jelly Bean on my Nook Color and vice versa , and all my apps work equally well. Unlike iOS, the core Android apps are updated on a regular basis, so everyone gets the latest security features built into those apps. In all my years of using Android, I've never had an issue with the billions of "viruses and malware" that are "out there". And I've never used an anti-virus on any of my devices. Now, downloading pirated apps from a random website may bring some of those beloved viruses and malware. But in order to do that, a user had to consciously enable the app to install.

 

[kdarling]

That phone IS still sold, it's sold out currently because people in India are buying them in droves. You're just not understanding my point. For every high end Android phone sold in the world, there is easily 2 low end, cheapo phones sold like this one.

The world is not that black and white. It's not made up of just "high end" and "cheap" phones.

There's a rich set of nicely spec'd mid-range devices. Phones with 4"+ screens start at around $200.

The lowest priced phones are actually a minority of world sales.



Of course, a no-contract price chart doesn't tell us what people actually paid upfront. If the chart used subsidized cost instead of retail price, over half of iPhone sales would be in the sub $200 range. That's why selling price alone is not a good indicator of how a device will be used, or the economic status of its owner.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

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[viskon]

As more people succumb to the evils of the 'real world' and have their security smashed, their phones hijacked, their lives turned inside out, people will see the relative safety of the iPhone environment..

This is again regurgitation of what people on this forum keep harping on. Is there any documented evidence (not from an Apple- focused site) of anyone on Android who " have their security smashed, their phones hijacked, their lives turned inside out" ?

 

[Oletros]

Having said that, I see the 'Android experience' being the biggest marketing device for the iPhone.

How so?

As more people succumb to the evils of the 'real world' and have their security smashed, their phones hijacked, their lives turned inside out, people will see the relative safety of the iPhone environment.

But to return to the original article: The reason why Android phones 'lead' in sales is because there are so many of the damn things on the market. And so many cheap and downright ridiculous 'Android devices'. And so many resellers sticking them to consumers with ridiculous 2-year nooses... A 'free phone' isn't 'free' when you are wed to the damn POS for 2-years.

But anyway...

This is a parody, isn't?

 

[pdqgp]

But far be it for me to advise people to use restraint in throwing their privacy around so freely. Who am I to say that trusting your Android device manufacturer will keep you in mind if there are any important updates is tragically misguided. That's got to be your decision. I'm largely happy with the decision I've made, thank you...

You are by far more exposed making a credit card or banking transaction on your desktop. Most people don't even realize how much private data their own browser contains that they wouldn't want getting out.

 

[Hyper-X]

You misunderstood my use of the concept of fragmentation. The 'average Android user' SHOULD be concerned about fragmentation. There are far too many Android devices out there and far too many different versions of the Android operating system and what ends up to be far too many manufacturers that are providing 'less than adequate' support for those devices.

I understand what fragmentation is, I just don't agree with what you said about it. Why "should" an android user be concerned about fragmentation? For example, nobody in the USA with their S4 on Jelly Bean is remotely concerned about why there's a lack of support for a device running Froyo in Boliva. All any user is concerned is about the support for the devices they currently use/own.

The downside of this is that if your Android device isn't actively being updated by either the user, or the manufacturer, they are vulnerable. Their information is subject to being taken. They are not safe. Privacy becomes even more of an unobtainable thing.

I don't think you quite understand how Android works and you're talking about multiple issues not related to each other in the same sentence. First security updates for the OS are still pushed to each device regardless of what version they're on, I still have a HTC G2 on Gingerbread and I still receive updates. You don't have to update to the latest version of Android to benefit from those updates. Next, each app depending on the developer, can be updated but just like iOS, there's no guarantee that there will be so it relies on the developer to maintain their apps.

The major issue with Android over iOS is malware but that goes into a whole other topic. You can search MR as they're available here if you want to read about it. Most users of Android do appear to run "something" to provide them some level of protection.

However when it comes to taking personal information, you are just as vulnerable on iOS and any other platform to include Windows Phone x, Nokia and Android via MITM. I've tested and verified that a good MITM exploit still works on the IP5S and the user is almost never aware that it's happening. iOS doesn't allow for any app through the store that can protect/warn you of MITM exploitation, however Android has several apps that can help warn the user of such.

People are blindly assuming that 'Motorola' to throw out a name, is concerned with their privacy when they couldn't give less of a crap about it. How many versions of Android are out there? How many updates for those versions have been released? Chances are you will see them all 'in the wild'...

You're not making much sense here.

As for the 'I want what I want on my phone NOW Verruca' whine over the iTunes app store, again I have to point out the fragmentation issue, and also the idea that there is effectively no lifeguard at the Android pool of apps. *Anyone* could write a nefarious app and it would be 'out there' and probably wide spread before it's stopped.

I agree that the degree of malware is more abundant on Google Play than the Apple App Store, but it's not related at all to fragmentation, I think you're confused about the issue.

No technology is fool-proof, but Android seems to embrace the idea that 'god' makes better fools all of the time, and it's not a problem. Plus, so far, I have not needed or wanted an app that I couldn't find in the iTunes app store so I just don't see the practicality of throwing ones self out into the street...

Every user's needs differ for each, Android encourages true open development (versus iOS) because even if Google Play was setup and maintained like the App Store, users can still choose to install software from other sources, which can't be done on iOS unless the device is jailbroken. The risks inherent to each device largely relies on the user than any issue regarding fragmentation.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

I understand what fragmentation is, I just don't agree with what you said about it. Why "should" an android user be concerned about fragmentation? For example, nobody in the USA with their S4 on Jelly Bean is remotely concerned about why there's a lack of support for a device running Froyo in Boliva. All any user is concerned is about the support for the devices they currently use/own.


I don't think you quite understand how Android works and you're talking about multiple issues not related to each other in the same sentence. First security updates for the OS are still pushed to each device regardless of what version they're on, I still have a HTC G2 on Gingerbread and I still receive updates. You don't have to update to the latest version of Android to benefit from those updates. Next, each app depending on the developer, can be updated but just like iOS, there's no guarantee that there will be so it relies on the developer to maintain their apps.


The major issue with Android over iOS is malware but that goes into a whole other topic. You can search MR as they're available here if you want to read about it. Most users of Android do appear to run "something" to provide them some level of protection.


However when it comes to taking personal information, you are just as vulnerable on iOS and any other platform to include Windows Phone x, Nokia and Android via MITM. I've tested and verified that a good MITM exploit still works on the IP5S and the user is almost never aware that it's happening. iOS doesn't allow for any app through the store that can protect/warn you of MITM exploitation, however Android has several apps that can help warn the user of such.


You're not making much sense here.


I agree that the degree of malware is more abundant on Google Play than the Apple App Store, but it's not related at all to fragmentation, I think you're confused about the issue.


Every user's needs differ for each, Android encourages true open development (versus iOS) because even if Google Play was setup and maintained like the App Store, users can still choose to install software from other sources, which can't be done on iOS unless the device is jailbroken. The risks inherent to each device largely relies on the user than any issue regarding fragmentation.

I do apologize for not making myself clear. My Mom died, and well I haven't been sleeping well, etc, etc...

I was getting at, but not getting to the idea of malware. Users will do the damnedest to their computers and other devices just by using them. Opening emails, clicking on links, 'user stuff'. Infections do often spread from infected devices, and I'd assume that the Android platform is no different. Here again, I assume that there is an infection that will use the infected persons contact list to spread itself. If not, than chalk one for Android.

I was also getting at the idea that everyone that I know that has had an earlier (pre-4) iPhone has ditched the old one and upgraded to a new one. (Some even have gone to the 5s, leaving me drooling) I know of a few people with the 'bargain phones' from the local AT&T that are ancient bu anyone's guess. That is what I referred to a 'churn', the number of people that actually keep up with the technology. I had a Palm Treo, Windows based, and they, being palm I guess, made upgrades for the OS very hard to get. I'm sure there were many updates that came from Microsoft that were never released to their Palm device owners. I remember there being an upgrade to the whatever Microsoft was calling that OS at the time, but I 'couldn't get it', even though it would have run on the device, for the simple reason that Palm wanted me to buy a new phone. I did, and it wasn't a Palm phone.

I guess I danced around a lot of issues, and yes I do not own an Android device. I do not have the luxury of owning more than one working phone, and I really hate buying technology on ebay just to 'try one out'. I trust my friends, and all of them that were on Android are now using iPhones. The stories they relayed to me were not much different than the issues I had with my Palm/Windows phone.

I even had a client who's daughter demanded that she get an Android phone and she hated it. It kept freaking out on her, and she ended up taking it back twice for replacement. Granted, it may not have been a software issue, but I would mention that we were going to upgrade her desktop to Android, and she would threaten to quit...

But if Apple hadn't dropped the ball and signed with AT&T exclusively in the beginning, who knows where the market would be...

 

[Poisonivy326]

As more people succumb to the evils of the 'real world' and have their security smashed, their phones hijacked, their lives turned inside out, people will see the relative safety of the iPhone environment.

You're kidding me right? I hate to break it to you but an iPhone isn't going to keep you "safe" if you order stuff from sketchy websites via iOS. It's not going to protect you from a Craiglist scam. It's "closed ecosystem" means that the Apps do have to get approval from the Apple store but at the end of the day it's up to YOU to be an informed consumer and download trusted apps and use good judgment over the internet. This is as true on iOS as it is on Android as it is on OSX as it is on Windows.

 

[Hyper-X]

I do apologize for not making myself clear. My Mom died, and well I haven't been sleeping well, etc, etc...

I was getting at, but not getting to the idea of malware. Users will do the damnedest to their computers and other devices just by using them. Opening emails, clicking on links, 'user stuff'. Infections do often spread from infected devices, and I'd assume that the Android platform is no different. Here again, I assume that there is an infection that will use the infected persons contact list to spread itself. If not, than chalk one for Android.

I was also getting at the idea that everyone that I know that has had an earlier (pre-4) iPhone has ditched the old one and upgraded to a new one. (Some even have gone to the 5s, leaving me drooling) I know of a few people with the 'bargain phones' from the local AT&T that are ancient bu anyone's guess. That is what I referred to a 'churn', the number of people that actually keep up with the technology. I had a Palm Treo, Windows based, and they, being palm I guess, made upgrades for the OS very hard to get. I'm sure there were many updates that came from Microsoft that were never released to their Palm device owners. I remember there being an upgrade to the whatever Microsoft was calling that OS at the time, but I 'couldn't get it', even though it would have run on the device, for the simple reason that Palm wanted me to buy a new phone. I did, and it wasn't a Palm phone.

I guess I danced around a lot of issues, and yes I do not own an Android device. I do not have the luxury of owning more than one working phone, and I really hate buying technology on ebay just to 'try one out'. I trust my friends, and all of them that were on Android are now using iPhones. The stories they relayed to me were not much different than the issues I had with my Palm/Windows phone.

I even had a client who's daughter demanded that she get an Android phone and she hated it. It kept freaking out on her, and she ended up taking it back twice for replacement. Granted, it may not have been a software issue, but I would mention that we were going to upgrade her desktop to Android, and she would threaten to quit...

But if Apple hadn't dropped the ball and signed with AT&T exclusively in the beginning, who knows where the market would be...

What???

 

[StyxMaker]

Uh, I am fully aware of malware and I have NEVER encountered one on my android phone. I obviously do not send just any file, but I do send pdfs and other documents to my colleagues and I enjoy the ability to do so flawlessly and natively on my android phone.

And I can share files using Air Drop.

 

[pdqgp]

And I can share files using Air Drop.

True, but I believe the point is that much like a traditional PC Android allows a user to simply attached any to the email being sent vs through a link or a third part cloud service.

That said however, I do enjoy cloud based systems as in many cases it makes more sense to reduce network traffic by simply providing a link. Especially if the file is large or the number of users in need of it is great.

 

[spjonez]

No thanks. Don't get me started on the recording industry. I'm not paying $1.25 per song or anywhere near $10 for a CD full. Not today. $.05 per or maybe a $1 per album which is what many other sites sell them for is good.

There's very few artists out there that can produce a full album worth purchasing, spending a few dollars for the tracks I want is nothing compared to album prices in the 90s. The rare artist who can produce a full album of hits probably deserves more.

I don't disagree with you that artists earnings are beyond ridiculous but if consumers didn't value entertainment so highly they wouldn't make that much. Years of buying albums for individual songs and inane restrictions forced people into piracy, I don't believe that argument still applies.

I had my "ah ha" moment shortly after I got my first MacBook. I was on YouTube ripping songs to convert and sync to four devices (Win7 PC, iPad, iPhone and the new Macbook). After realizing I had over 10 tracks by the same artist I started to wonder how much it would cost to buy the album and not spend the next hour staring at progress bars. One click and $8 later they were on all my devices. iTunes made buying music easier, faster, and more convenient then stealing it. I've bought everything since. Now if the movie and especially TV industry could figure that out...

iPhone wise, MotionX Drive is IMO the very best GPS. Puts the rest to shame badly. Worth $10/yr. for turn by turn. I don't even use Google maps on the Android. There i use Sygic, but my point is I can choose. Apple doesn't let people choose much if anything. iOS is old-school limiting. I completely understand why they do it, but it's too constricting and it's been that way forever.

It depends on how you look at it. I spent countless hours tweaking when I was younger I don't have the time anymore. Now I want an appliance that works out of the box, does what I need it to and requires little to no fiddling to use.

If Google's services were available in Canada I might give Android another look, but today they can't match iTunes Match and Airplay. You can't beat the integration when all products (computer, tablet, phone, TV) are made by the same company. I'm sure a full Android setup has it's perks but they aren't available to a lot of us.

 

[pdqgp]

iTunes made buying music easier, faster, and more convenient then stealing it. I've bought everything since. Now if the movie and especially TV industry could figure that out...

iTunes is certainly handy but many other sites are just as good and convenient. I click "buy" and save the song to my iTunes folder and my Android automatically brings over all my playlists and music just like it does for you only I use an app called iSnycr that runs in the background on my desktop.

Now I want an appliance that works out of the box, does what I need it to and requires little to no fiddling to use.

I do too and I have that. The problem is to do most all things I've noted in the last few pages of this thread are seamless with an Android and actually require way too much fiddling to do on an iPhone. That's irony!

If Google's services were available in Canada I might give Android another look, but today they can't match iTunes Match and Airplay. You can't beat the integration when all products (computer, tablet, phone, TV) are made by the same company. I'm sure a full Android setup has it's perks but they aren't available to a lot of us.

I can't comment on Google in Canada. I lived in Toronto for 2 years back in the late 90's but that was back when Blackberry plans were sold by the character typed

I'm sure it's just a matter of time before all that we see here in the states is offered up north. Change today is faster than every so I would say it might just be pretty soon too.

 

[majorchimp]

Agreed. I should be able to do whatever I want with my phone. Apple should just simply catch up, but they make phones for people that don't really understand tech (it shows in the numerous times I've had to help someone figure out their iPhones - it was NORMAL) because if they were really knowledgeable more than likely they'd go android.

Android doesn't limit it's phones.

You can't even download free music on an iPhone unless you jailbreak it, and even then apple is ignorantly blocking jailbreaks.





most features, functionality, and how well they work.

It's a reason ios7 took a lot from android.






Same here, no way a 4s can so something a nexus5 can't do.

Plus the nexus let's you change that keyboard, the iPhone won't let you swap out that horrible keyboard. You're stuck with it and that juvenile looking to the app.

And I agree, if you had a bad user experience on a flagship android the problem is user error.

You did something wrong. I left iPhone due to the lacking user experience.

Baloney, there isn't a thing that my Note 2 can do that my iPhone can't...except for pointless widgets. Music playback on android is a pain. Viewing and organizing images on android is a pain. There are no integrated cloud services that synchronizes your phone, tablet and tv.

Android is a pain.

 

[lobeyonekenobi]

One or two years ago, yes, today? I don't think so

Can give me an example of this:

 

[pdqgp]

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[lobeyonekenobi]

Agreed. I should be able to do whatever I want with my phone. Apple should just simply catch up, but they make phones for people that don't really understand tech (it shows in the numerous times I've had to help someone figure out their iPhones - it was NORMAL) because if they were really knowledgeable more than likely they'd go android.

Android doesn't limit it's phones.

You can't even download free music on an iPhone unless you jailbreak it, and even then apple is ignorantly blocking jailbreaks.





most features, functionality, and how well they work.

It's a reason ios7 took a lot from android.






Same here, no way a 4s can so something a nexus5 can't do.

Plus the nexus let's you change that keyboard, the iPhone won't let you swap out that horrible keyboard. You're stuck with it and that juvenile looking to the app.

And I agree, if you had a bad user experience on a flagship android the problem is user error.

You did something wrong. I left iPhone due to the lacking user experience.

Yeah nothing ever goes wrong with an android phone, you seem to be the sort of person who bashes "fanboys" because they kiss Apples backside yet on the other hand no "Flagship" Android phone can possibly have a problem it's just user error cool glad that's sorted

 

[pdqgp]

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[lobeyonekenobi]

Really? I get emails on my iPad with MS Office docs in them all day long. It's horrible at editing and actually WORKING.

It's crazy how a Phablet can do so much more so much easier. Get rid of the limitations of iOS and the iPad would actually be great.

Notice how on the Android you have the option to Preview/Open the file or actually SAVE the .docx file to where ever you would like.

Here's what that looks like on an iPad:

Here's the document along with all the fields to be filled in just as it would appear on a real computer. How nice, familiar and oh so easy to work with. Again, a true Save As and Print Button too! Heck, for giggles, I'm going to export it to a .pdf so I can forward it to a client without worry. I'll even sign it. Coming up....things an iPad can't easily do....see below.

Now here's that same file on the iPad via it's Native Word editor. Notice the fields are GONE and not there to be filled in. Doesn't look anything like Word on a computer. Nor does it offer an opportunity to save the file or easily print it. Can it be exported to another format easliy? Nope.

So let's try another Paid app from iTunes. Office HD, a supposedly very strong application for editing such files. Hey....at least it recognizes it an a .docx file.....

Let's move on already....here's the MS Word 2010 Files converted to a pdf and signed all on an Note 3 from within the Stock Applications.

^^ and the final Doc that can be Saved locally, in Google's Cloud, printed on just about any printer or emailed easily as a true attachment just like on a desktop. Not to mention if I save it in the cloud, go home and login even on an iPad, I can get to that same file. Ever try and login to iCloud from a non iOS phone or tablet? Apple won't let you and will likely tell you your browser isn't supported. So actually Google allows me to to more and on EITHER Platform vs just one.

I just have one question, why are you on an Apple-centric website if they are obviously inferior to Android in your opinion, can you show me in diagrams the answer to this

 

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