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Really? I get emails on my iPad with MS Office docs in them all day long. It's horrible at editing and actually WORKING.

It's crazy how a Phablet can do so much more so much easier. Get rid of the limitations of iOS and the iPad would actually be great.

Notice how on the Android you have the option to Preview/Open the file or actually SAVE the .docx file to where ever you would like.

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Here's what that looks like on an iPad:

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Here's the document along with all the fields to be filled in just as it would appear on a real computer. How nice, familiar and oh so easy to work with. Again, a true Save As and Print Button too! Heck, for giggles, I'm going to export it to a .pdf so I can forward it to a client without worry. I'll even sign it. Coming up....things an iPad can't easily do....see below.

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Now here's that same file on the iPad via it's Native Word editor. Notice the fields are GONE and not there to be filled in. Doesn't look anything like Word on a computer. Nor does it offer an opportunity to save the file or easily print it. Can it be exported to another format easliy? Nope.

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So let's try another Paid app from iTunes. Office HD, a supposedly very strong application for editing such files. Hey....at least it recognizes it an a .docx file.....

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Let's move on already....here's the MS Word 2010 Files converted to a pdf and signed all on an Note 3 from within the Stock Applications.


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^^ and the final Doc that can be Saved locally, in Google's Cloud, printed on just about any printer or emailed easily as a true attachment just like on a desktop. Not to mention if I save it in the cloud, go home and login even on an iPad, I can get to that same file. Ever try and login to iCloud from a non iOS phone or tablet? Apple won't let you and will likely tell you your browser isn't supported. So actually Google allows me to to more and on EITHER Platform vs just one.


I get emails on my Note 2 all day long.

First, Android SUCKS so bad, it can't even preview within the mail app. It's crazy how the Note just sucks from the start and keeps going downhill.

Notice how you don't need the option to open/preview or save the file within iOS. It automatically previews supported file types. I notice how I can open the file within any App on my iPad whereas on the Note, I need to go through all sorts of terrible hoops and hurdles just to assign a proper app. A never-ending procedure on stupid android phones every time you install or uninstall an app.

Notice how I can open the same file in Pages and then can Print, Duplicate, Edit, Track changes and collaboratively edit, send via airdrop, mirror on my TV, etc. Heck for giggles, I decided to save my Pages document as a PDF and add a signature with docusign which is not only easier than some lame sPen but can easily be accomplished with one hand and much quicker. Then I emailed that same pdf to my attorney so he can see how lame your argument is. The best part of all this, is that the document was saved automatically and distributed to all of my devices on my iPhone. Notice how impossible that is with Android?

Not to mention the fact that I have to keep pressing the menu button for all kinds of nonsensical things? Notice how Android is like using Windows 95 all over again? Don't get me wrong, it's probably good for people like you who think that CLI and DOS are probably better than GUIs but then again, YMMV. The worse part was that in the middle of trying to do all this with the Note, it crapped out and rebooted. I noticed how I never had this problem with my iPhone.
 
I get emails on my Note 2 all day long.

First, Android SUCKS so bad, it can't even preview within the mail app. It's crazy how the Note just sucks from the start and keeps going downhill.

Notice how you don't need the option to open/preview or save the file within iOS. It automatically previews supported file types. I notice how I can open the file within any App on my iPad whereas on the Note, I need to go through all sorts of terrible hoops and hurdles just to assign a proper app. A never-ending procedure on stupid android phones every time you install or uninstall an app.

Notice how I can open the same file in Pages and then can Print, Duplicate, Edit, Track changes and collaboratively edit, send via airdrop, mirror on my TV, etc. Heck for giggles, I decided to save my Pages document as a PDF and add a signature with docusign which is not only easier than some lame sPen but can easily be accomplished with one hand and much quicker. Then I emailed that same pdf to my attorney so he can see how lame your argument is. The best part of all this, is that the document was saved automatically and distributed to all of my devices on my iPhone. Notice how impossible that is with Android?

Not to mention the fact that I have to keep pressing the menu button for all kinds of nonsensical things? Notice how Android is like using Windows 95 all over again? Don't get me wrong, it's probably good for people like you who think that CLI and DOS are probably better than GUIs but then again, YMMV. The worse part was that in the middle of trying to do all this with the Note, it crapped out and rebooted. I noticed how I never had this problem with my iPhone.

I doubt you even have a Note 2. Or used an Android.

Can you post screen shots of the "terrible hoops and hurdles to assign a proper app" on your Note 2 ?
 
So then you should have no problem addressing the point and example I made above with step by step how you could do the same on a 5s with iWork.


Plenty of real world experience with them since they day the iPhone was released. Happy to share details.



Then please, use my examples in this thread and share with us step by step doing the same. 1-2-3 go.



Really? So the multitude of play back apps many with customizable EQ's are a pain? How so? I love having the ability to have custom EQ Settings that will then best correspond to the system I'm playing it back on. I can set the EQ preset to match my Jam Box at the Office or the Infinity System in my Car and have complete control of those settings.

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So you're completely unaware of how to use Google cloud to sync. all your Android devices? WOW! You really don't have a clue how this stuff works. The new Android tablets will even recognize individual profiles on the same device. Google + will seamlessly back up your photos and videos right after you shoot them. It's easy dude.



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Please show us how your iPhone can open up your gallery pull up the print menu and print to just about any non-airprint wifi printer on 4x6 Glossy photo paper.

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So what happens when you do the exact same thing on an iPhone? If you don't have an AirPrint Printer, you fail. Of course there are always third party apps.......

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First of all, please stop pasting screenshots of your horrible android screens. They are hurting the eyes of innocent people.

The multitude of playback apps on Android are sheer junk. The eq's are battery and processor killers with too much gain and not enough actual sound. The eq's barely uncripple the already horrible DSPs hampering android playback since Froyo. just sheer junk.

Your one statement is truly amazing in it's stupidity..... "So you're completely unaware of how to use Google cloud to sync. all your Android devices? WOW! You really don't have a clue how this stuff works. The new Android tablets will even recognize individual profiles on the same device. Google + will seamlessly back up your photos and videos right after you shoot them. "

Care to explain to me how to do that without a social networking account that is required by google? I guess I could use dropbox but I can't automatically save my photo stream into iPhoto. Your selective points of the far more inferior android system are laughable at best. The iPhone outclasses Android all days long in aesthetics, functionality and usability. Android is a system designed by amateurs for chumps.
 
I just bought an iPhone 5s a week ago. I'm coming from a samsung galaxy s3.

First of all, allow me to say I have no issues with either os regarding features or usability. They are basically on par for me. There's nothing that one can do that the other can't do.

What drove me to the iphone however was the incredible lag and sluggishness of the s3. Supposedly a high-end smartphone, it took MINUTES to open my picture gallery, it took nearly 1 minute to get the camera app open. The interface was often incredibly slow.

That's much different on the iphone. I can have thousands of pictures in my gallery and the phone is still incredibly fast.

Ultimately, I believe that everyone should get whatever they feel comfortable with. As I said earlier, both systems are nearly identical when it comes to features offered. Hardware wise, there is nothing that beats an iphone at the moment tho (and this might be even more pronounced thanks to the extreme integration with the OS, which allows the iphone to use much less resources for most tasks than android - ie: top android phones have quad cores with 2gb ram, and they feel slower than a lower clocked dual core with 1gb ram)
 
In some cases I don't agree about the identical operation between platforms. The key differences I notice is with the apps themselves. Some apps are better written for one platform than it is for the other, but that's hardly the fault of the device whether it's iOS or Android.
 
All this talk about fragmentation and viruses is inconsequential to users. I can do almost everything on ICS compared to Jellybean. Viruses/Malware? Never heard of any reported incidents that many users. Way overblown.

BUT what is more crucial is daily use of the phone. And here is where iphone5s/iOS have the following major shortcomings which makes it much lagging behind Android/Note3 in every day use.


1. Lack of Back/Menu hardkey and context sensitive popup menu.
30-40% of screen area is taken up by top navigation and bottom command buttons bars leaving less screen area for useful information and cluttering of the screen with buttons just makes the UI ugly. Placement of Back button is inconsistent depending on apps and you have to make effort to look for it. Placement of back button at the top left makes one-handed use difficult requiring big thumb movement to reach which also cause thumb to block screen causing viewing distraction.

Android more screen area and no cluttering as commands can be nicely tugged away in Menu/Popup menu.

2. The great iOS Settings Mess
iOS centralized settings is a real pain to use as you need to exit the app to activate. Plus searching for the settings become tedious if you have lots of apps installed. Inconsistency as some apps also have an in-app setting as well as global settings.

Android App settings in the app itself and system settings in main.

3. Lethargic and slow scrolling
iOS scrolling is stunted with lots of inertia - no matter how big or quick the swipe, it just scroll a short distance before coming to a stop. It is so frustrating slow when scrolling long lists or webpages.
Android - the distance and scrolling speed varies depending on how you swipe. You can make it scroll fast and long distance with one big/quick swipe.
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4. No filesystem - Very unfriendly for user data/file due to its silo App-centric design
You have to load your files into the app before the app can use the files causing duplications if you use multiple apps to consume the same files. And files cannot be shared. RIDICULOUS thing is if you uninstall the app it DELETES all your files==>iOS doesnt care at all about your important data/files. So many ios users resort to using cloud storage which is slow and consume more data/battery and totally unworkable with huge files.

Android - data centric design. You organize your all important files securely anyway you like in the filesystem. You can use any apps to consume the files using the "Open with.." capability. Time-tested design which we are used to in PC.

5. No shortcuts support
e.g One one copy of app icon - can't create another copy of the app icon in 2 or more folders. Need to launch the app first before you can open files

Android - you can create homescreen shortcut icons to anything - app, direct dial/sms/contact, file in storage, weblink, automated tasks/scripts etc. You can put shortcuts of your most used information (files/links/direct dial/direct sms) on the homescreen (or a homescreen folder) and with just one tap it will launch the relevant app to open the shortcut.

6. No USB/USB host support
Plug in phone to computer via USB port and you only have access to your photo folder. Everything else is locked down. Need to installed itunes to even copy files to/from the phone internal storage (and restricted to ONE PC - ridiculous).

Android - Plug the phone to computer and internat storage shows up as disk in the PC. You can copy files in/out of phone easily. Plug in a portable drive directly to phone USB and you can access files in the portable drive from the phone. Or plug supported plug-and-play usb devices (e.g. joystick/gamepad/mouse etc) and use it with the phone.

7. Very user unfriendly data sharing
Sharing information directly from an app is limited to fb/tw/email. e.g. You cannot share a link in the browser other than with supported protocols. You have to copy the link, close the browser, open the other sharing app and paste the links into it. And major pain-in-the-behind if sharing to many non-supported sources.

Android - click on anything you want to share ANYWHERE (inside app/email/browser/homescreen etc) and pick from a list of installed share-enabled apps (incl. BT, Wifi-direct, NFC) and data is shared. Repeat to share to another source. Simple and elegant.

8.No Standard WCDMA 3G-standard video calling.
Why iphone does not support this makes no sense. This capability enables you to video call to ANY 3G-enabled phone even dumb-phone without data plan. Instead you get the proprietary Facetime.

9.Limited Email Attachment/No File Download support/Limited File Format
Cannot attach any files (except photo) you want to email. Cannot download and save files to your internal storage and then reuse the files. Need convoluted workarounds to do attach files to email or use inefficient dropbox to save downloaded files.

Android - no such restrictions (i.e. PC-based capability)

10. No Widgets support
No widgets on homescreen. Some may say use notification to see but this is not practical as you get interrupted by notifications all the time and your notification gets clutter (esp. tw/fb - not so essential and with lots of message). Add to this pain is the iOS notifications are tedious to clear and the notification blocks the screen.

AndroidWidgets are so useful for quick glance without opening apps. You can have all essential information (weather,logs,birthdays,to-dos,events,fb,tw,stocks,warnings) AGGREGATED on one (or more) homescreen. This beats having to open app after app to get all these essential information (and imagine repeating this over and over everyday).

11. Safari does not support text reflow/text fitting/user agents
No support for text reflow always require tedious side-scroll to view text. You cannot specify a fixed font size and the browser will reflow text to fit the screen width at that font size(it always fit the column of the page which most of the time text is too small to read).

Android/Note3 Web-broswer supports text reflow at specified viewing/zoomed font size - you do not need to side-scroll like in iOS browser. This is better than "reader mode" in iOS as this leaves the webpage layout intact. Also you can set user agent (i.e. always fetch desktop version of the webpage). The browser integrates with download manager allowing you to download and save any files from website into phone internal storage.

12. Wifi Hotspot Limitation
You cannot use your phone at the same time if you enabled hotspot. If you move away from the hotspot page (or open another app), the hotspot is terminated.

Android/Note3 You can continue to use your phone and the wifi hotspot still functioning in the background.

13.Connectivity Lockdown
No BlueTooth/Wifi-Direct/USB3 direct file transfer. To transfer huge video files to phone is really a pain. You can only do it on one Itunes PC. And Itunes takes ages to convert the video to support format before sync. Cannot do it adhocly when you are out and about/at your friend's place/on holiday.

Android - plug in the cable/turn on BT/Wifi-direct/NFC and you are good to go - anytime any place.

14.Limited Customization
Cannot do much at all. Cannot change icon sets or color schemes or font styles or homescreen launchers or default apps.

Android - Anything goes. It just makes the phone much more fun. You don't have to make use of it as the stock phone is already very capable. Who doesnt get bored seeing the same grid of icons for years on end for iOS?. You are given the choice whereas for iOS you are put into a straight-jacket whether you like it or not.

14. Very limited automation support
- Cannot automate sound profile switching - tediously need to remember to flip the silent switch on and off or be embarassed if you forget to do it. Android - phone auto-silent itself during meeting periods (as specified in calendar entries) or at night or when phone enter a certain location. Never have to bother again with the mundane task of remembering to flip switch like in iphone.

- Limted Call management (Do-Not-Disturb). Android - there many apps that can do full-fledged call management - based on time periods / location / calendar entries. e.g. I can setup to only allow calls from specific persons during meeting period (as defined in calendar) and other people gets redirected to another number.

- Cannot do phone conversation recording. Android/Note3 - supports background phone conversation recording.


15. OTHER useful and good to have NOT available with Iphone5s (as compared to S4/Note3)

- Bigger screen phone (up to 5.7in for phablet)

- Internal storage up to 128GB (64 + upto 64Gb microSD) + Free 50GB drop-box. You want to strangle someone looking at the cut-throat price Apple charge for extra storage (32Gb extra costs $100 whereas an equivalent external microSD costs $20)

- Removable battery for the extremely heavy users. Or just pop in a new battery when the current battery eol without needing to send your phone in to repair center.

- Camera with so much more capability than IP5s - higher pixel for both front and back camera, front/back shot, cinema shot, 4K video, stereo recording etc etc.

- Screen Mirroring: MHL/HDMI cable allows showing phone screen on ANY TV without needing to lug around bulky and expensive AppleTV box.

- Replaceable back cover - dont need to use unsightly external protective case to protect against scratches like the scratch-easy IP5s metal casing. If cover is scratch just buy a new ones - no need for expensive repair.

- Sensors galore. Supports more sensors including temperature/humidity/IR sensors. You can use Note3 as pedometer without add-ons-can't do that on IP5s. You can turn on hand gesture when touching phone is not convenient. You can use phone with gloves.

-S-Pen - this capability brings a host of capabilities not available for IP5s incl. pressure sensitive hand writing, hover view, pen-window etc.

- multi-color LED indicator for missed calls/sms/notifications without turning on screen. This is one of the can't-do-without.

-IR Blaster - with bundle watch-on app it becomes a full tv-guide/remote. Or as a general universal remote control to control all the devices in your home directly. You can even pin the IR remote app to the lock-screen for each access.

- Sensors galore. Supports more sensors including temperature/humidity/IR sensors. You can use Note3 as pedometer without add-ons-can't do that on IP5s. You can turn on hand gesture when touching phone is not convenient. You can use phone with gloves.

- Smart Features: Smart-Stay is so useful when reading without the annoyance of the need to keep touching the screen to keep it on. Smart-rotation is also nifty i.e. screen rotates based on the orientation of your face. Other useful features are flip over to silent phone, vibrate when you have missed call/sms when you touch phone.

-Keyboard with multiple words prediction for less typing. You can type any words with 3 keypress (2 to show a list of predicted words and one tap to select). And with next word prediction, typing can be so much faster. And keyboard learns new words unlike Iphone5s cannot do. Also include ability for T9 keyboard and continous,swipe input. And Note3 pen input is really good in translating your handwriting. Voice input is also much better and faster with support of offline voice module.

-Overall better and more useful system information with alerts - call duration, data usage, battery info,

-Ringtone. Something simple that everyone wants. On Note3, you can select any files in the storage as ringtone easily using file explorer. Adding ringtone in Iphone5 requires you to follow a series of complicated steps.

-Use home button to answer call (or power button to end call), pattern/facial lock, haptic feedback
- The ability to download/buy apps from the browser and have it sync to phone is so much easier and faster. You can open multi-tab to view/compare apps (unlike the appstore in iOS which allows only viewing of one app details at a time). Also, if you have many devices, you can select which devices the app will sync to. Accounts handling is also better in Note3/Android. On Android, you can setup multiple accounts and purchase different type of apps with separate accounts. On the device, you just specify which accounts you want to sync apps.

- Better Google-based services/apps which tightly integrate to OS. Map, Hangout, Google+ etc are all seamless integrated into the OS

- Automation-type apps (all not possible on Iphone5s)
o automaticly switch phone settings (vol, bt, wifi etc) based on events/calendars/GPS/nfc
o advanced call manager to filter/record/re-direct calls automatically
o NFC tasks (using tectiles) - e.g. tap to call/sms directly or change phone settings
o schedule auto send sms/email (birthday, meeting reminders, location etc)
o auto check-in to social services, auto upload photos/info without need to open the opp like in Iphone5, scheduled cloud backup
o etc etc
 
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How about the ability to send someone a file other than a photo natively, without the aid of an app? Or true multitasking, or external storage, or better maps or nicer screen size, customization, better sharing features, better keyboard choices, visible file system, better notifications, (apple realized this and copied) google now, (Siri is a joke), more free apps, unlock options, shall I go on.....

The only thing this list I'll give you sharing between apps and external storage as two advantages that have a significant effect on functionality. All the others are for most part perceived as just gimmicks by a lot of people and hardly compelling reasons to switch.
 
Try upgrading the operating system after a few years. Android has very bad updates for its phones beyond its service life. Its not totally immune.

The above is more a result of what Phone manufacturers put forth or choose not to put forth though. Some are better than others. Will be the same way on cars in the near future too considering every make has it's own unique way of integrating Smart Phones into their vehicles. Heck, it's that way now with some GPS units.

The good news is phones are relatively cheap and to keep a smart phone beyond a couple years or 1-2 OS Updates isn't a great idea anyway. While I love my iPhone 4s, it's dated in terms of speed and capabilities compared to many of the newer ones. Same goes for say a Galaxy S3. Once the S5 hits, who cares if the S3 has an OS update available. Time to move to the newer one for more than just an OS offering.

In the end no one is immune to the pace of technology.
 
Try upgrading the operating system after a few years. Android has very bad updates for its phones beyond its service life. Its not totally immune.

While carrier updates are a problem in the Android world, they are getting better. Check out HTC updating the One or Motorola with the Moto X. And for updates after the manufacturer stops support , Cyanogenmod FTW.
 
It's not an insult, I was completely confused by your response because none of that except for the unfortunate part about your mom... what does anything you posted have anything to do with my quote to you?

OK. But your earlier statement:
Every user's needs differ for each, Android encourages true open development (versus iOS) because even if Google Play was setup and maintained like the App Store, users can still choose to install software from other sources, which can't be done on iOS unless the device is jailbroken. The risks inherent to each device largely relies on the user than any issue regarding fragmentation.​
was what sparked my response. Users can not be counted on to not harm themselves. Really... You can tell someone not to run with scissors, and some still will, and act surprised when they stab themselves. Coupled with the long retention rates, and the different versions of the OS...

Never mind... I have more important things to do than this. Sorry...
 
OK. But your earlier statement:
Every user's needs differ for each, Android encourages true open development (versus iOS) because even if Google Play was setup and maintained like the App Store, users can still choose to install software from other sources, which can't be done on iOS unless the device is jailbroken. The risks inherent to each device largely relies on the user than any issue regarding fragmentation.​
was what sparked my response. Users can not be counted on to not harm themselves. Really... You can tell someone not to run with scissors, and some still will, and act surprised when they stab themselves. Coupled with the long retention rates, and the different versions of the OS...

Never mind... I have more important things to do than this. Sorry...

I'm still confused at your response. You can't expect the manufacturer to provide you or be responsible for 100% of your protection, at some point each user is responsible for protecting themselves by using secure habits.

Are you saying that just because someone accidentally stabs themselves with a pair of scissors that they should ban all scissors from the market?
 
You can tell someone not to run with scissors, and some still will, and act surprised when they stab themselves.

^^ That's life. Locking down iOS as Apple has done might be safer but at the cost of flexibility and using a device to it's full potential in terms of allowing said users to be in control and use it to meet THEIR Needs. iOS is bass-ackwards in that Apple locks it down and users have jerk around with apps just to be able to print or accommodate the lack of a file manager. That's crazy. I was just plain tired of work-arounds to do things so I switched.

As the saying goes, “Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security” Yes, I believe that's applicable here.
 
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As per your request, here's the diagram as to why:

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As you can see I have used and still do many different iOS devices and have been here for a while. I'll just as staunchly address any misnomers about iDevices as well.

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That's not actually a diagram but I'll let that go and sarcasm not your strong suit eh! and just because you have listed devices you supposedly have means nothing to me.

Also why use those iDevices if Android is vastly superior, I know I wouldn't if it was me.

You may like Android, nothing wrong with that I still have an S2 was going to buy a Nexus 5 if it wasn't only available only through the play store and networks over here supported it but they don't, it's also vexing when someone seems to want to force their opinions on others, I would never go on an Android forum and bag Android as where would it get me???
 
That's not actually a diagram but I'll let that go and sarcasm not your strong suit eh!

By commenting as you did on all my collective posts prior you implied all the screen shots I posted before were "diagrams" so I simply posted another. If you were looking for an actual "diagram" then you should have been specific on what you were looking for in it or further clarified your expectations. Apparently you didn't so that left me with the liberty to reply as I did. Let''s just say attention to detail and clarifying your expectations isn't your strong suit eh!

and just because you have listed devices you supposedly have means nothing to me.

You asked a pretty basic question and the answer is directly related to those devices in my signature. I clarified it though just in case you needed more.

Also why use those iDevices if Android is vastly superior, I know I wouldn't if it was me.

If you read my previous posts you'd see that I use both for work.


it's also vexing when someone seems to want to force their opinions on others, I would never go on an Android forum and bag Android as where would it get me???

Why would you be annoyed?
  • This entire thread is about iOS vs Android and popularity and as to why.
  • This site has a dedicated forum to alternatives to iOS thus welcomes Android users.
  • I personally own and use both and post credible working examples that support my opinions
  • This is an open forum dedicated to "news" not just love for Apple or iOS devices, thus such conversation is to be expected.
  • My replies and points began and center around correcting untrue points thus getting to reality vs skewed opinions that have yet to see the person making them back up his points as I've done with actual working examples or screen shots.

If you go to such a forum in an Android world with the above points being the same, what it would get you is likely the same robust dialog happening here. Not a big deal.
 
By commenting as you did on all my collective posts prior you implied all the screen shots I posted before were "diagrams" so I simply posted another. If you were looking for an actual "diagram" then you should have been specific on what you were looking for in it or further clarified your expectations. Apparently you didn't so that left me with the liberty to reply as I did. Let''s just say attention to detail and clarifying your expectations isn't your strong suit eh!

The one thing I mentioned was I was being sarcastic, a low form of wit one can't grasp on the internet, you're in-depth analytical reply still shows me you have no idea:confused:

You asked a pretty basic question and the answer is directly related to those devices in my signature. I clarified it though just in case you needed more.



If you read my previous posts you'd see that I use both for work.




Why would you be annoyed?
  • This entire thread is about iOS vs Android and popularity and as to why.
  • This site has a dedicated forum to alternatives to iOS thus welcomes Android users.
  • I personally own and use both and post credible working examples that support my opinions
  • This is an open forum dedicated to "news" not just love for Apple or iOS devices, thus such conversation is to be expected.
  • My replies and points began and center around correcting untrue points thus getting to reality vs skewed opinions that have yet to see the person making them back up his points as I've done with actual working examples or screen shots.

You have too much time on your hands to go through this, you are meticulous I'll give you that.

Again just because you post screenshots and have a signature how do I KNOW you use these devices???

If you go to such a forum in an Android world with the above points being the same, what it would get you is likely the same robust dialog happening here. Not a big deal.

Robust.... I hope your not referring to your own opinions here cos that is some big head mister, as for going on an Android forum and discussing Apple products again what's the purpose, it would contain people like you who seem to think they have to prove their choice of phone is better than others with a different phone, alot of people don't give a hoot about sending spreadsheets et al over their phone but some do.

I will be getting a 5S because it suits my needs, I don't care for 90% the things you spout, it doesn't suit my needs doesn't mean I think it's the right choice for everyone then have go through a step-by-step long-winded process trying to prove I'm right.

No big deal.
 
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The one thing I mentioned was I was being sarcastic, a low form of wit one can't grasp on the internet, you're in-depth analytical reply still shows me you have no idea

I clearly read your sarcasm and attempt to be witty. Did you expect I would just let you come off like a pri..without giving you a jab back?

Again just because you post screenshots and have a signature how do I KNOW you use these devices???

What do you want more screen shots of what I do with them? Quiz me, I don't care. If you must know we use iPads for Adobe presentations, email, Sales Force, basic stuff. Corporate made the call to support iPads and iPhones. I'm okay with it as they are free, but in the end they are too limited really. They do what we need though. I don't take a company phone as I'd rather use my own. The 4s I have was used to the max. but I made the switch as again, it's my phone and I choose not to carry two. The 4s is now just a backup music device that I tend to keep in my center console just to keep it in use.

as for going on an Android forum and discussing Apple products again what's the purpose, it would contain people like you who seem to think they have to prove their choice of phone is better than others with a different phone

I have nothing to prove. Again, I've simply been replying to posts and comments that are either incorrect incite a reply. Nothing wrong with sharing a products capabilities and backing them up.
 
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pdqgp, I'm sure you already know that there's always going to be the binary type of folks that seems to think it has to be one or the other. They own an iOS device so they must hate on android, but unfortunately there's always going to be those small minded ones. I see this on the android forums as well.

Like you I use multiple platforms and I have my pro's on con's for all of them, from my MBP, Thinkpads, iPhone/iPad to my Nexus 7 tablet.

When I look at iOS vs Android, it's like comparing 2 different worlds. iOS would be like living on a small island with tons of people. Due to the small land space, it's much easier to keep tabs on everyone and police up the place maintaining a decent level of security. The island provides you with most of your needs but it tells you what you can and cannot eat, what you can and cannot watch on tv and forces you to get everything you need/want through their local government.

With android, it's like being on a much larger continent with about the same number of people total but spread out more. You have more freedom/space to work with and you have much more growth potential but policing up the continent isn't as easy due to the larger geographical land space. The land can provide you everything you could want but it's up to you to depend on the government for your needs or take the chance at it on your own, it's your choice.
 
pdqgp, I'm sure you already know that there's always going to be the binary type of folks that seems to think it has to be one or the other. They own an iOS device so they must hate on android, but unfortunately there's always going to be those small minded ones. I see this on the android forums as well.

Like you I use multiple platforms and I have my pro's on con's for all of them, from my MBP, Thinkpads, iPhone/iPad to my Nexus 7 tablet.

When I look at iOS vs Android, it's like comparing 2 different worlds. iOS would be like living on a small island with tons of people. Due to the small land space, it's much easier to keep tabs on everyone and police up the place maintaining a decent level of security. The island provides you with most of your needs but it tells you what you can and cannot eat, what you can and cannot watch on tv and forces you to get everything you need/want through their local government.

With android, it's like being on a much larger continent with about the same number of people total but spread out more. You have more freedom/space to work with and you have much more growth potential but policing up the continent isn't as easy due to the larger geographical land space. The land can provide you everything you could want but it's up to you to depend on the government for your needs or take the chance at it on your own, it's your choice.

I am not narrow minded because I choose one platform over the other and stick to that and have stated it's personal choice what a person uses, and I don't judge that I just don't like others who force opinions on others or go out of their way to prove a point no-one gives a toss about.

And please stop with the analogies please, I mean bloody big islands and small islands government etc. Apple is not perfect no doubt I know they are restrictive some people don't care so much some do, I'm saying just go and use your analogies on Google forums, I am sure you are free to do what you want with them right jeez...cos they don't govern in any way do they "Freedom of speech or choice as long as you say or do what we want".
 
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