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That is a short term savings probably, not a long term one since when you trade it in it will be worth less. And if that difference is more than $100 then you have ended up paying more for an inferior product.

Case in point. My sister got a 4s but wanted to "save" $80 and got my nephew a 4 at the same time. I told her that was a very bad idea then... Now two years later she goes to sell it and her 16gb 4s is worth about $100 more than the 8gb 4. So over that time she ended up net spending more for an inferior product and had to deal with him always complaining about not having enough space! On the plus side I got to tell my sister "Told you so!" :D

In the 60+ years of my life there have been many times when saving $80 today was far more important that getting an extra $100 later.
 
Total cost of the 5C with the cheapest AT&T contract would be 95% of the total cost of the 5S with the same contract.

The 5S is a better phone than the 5C.

There is nothing that the 5C is better at than the 5S, and the 5S will have a higher second hand value making the gap over time between the models a lot less than the 5%...

I fail to see who Apple thinks the target is for the 5C.
Except for those who always wanted an iPhone with a permanent plastic case in a hideous color...

I disagree. I think when the iPhone 6 comes out, the 5S will be the iPhone model that loses the most value over the shortest period of time. Just my opinion, because i anticipate the 6 design being more revolutionary than evolutionary, and the 5Cs will be remembered as the most durable iphone ever which stands for a lot. There is nothing worse than packaging up a nice all aluminum design in a case with the original 5/5s, meanwhile i expect you'll be able to use the the 5C caseless with confidence.

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Who knows. In the long run Apple may be moving away from aluminum phone designs, because let's face it, they simply aren't durable at all. The 5C will be an excellent proving ground for durability.
 
When most people talk about wanting a bigger screened iPhone, they're not referring to a phablet, which is 5" or more.

They're talking more like 4.3"-4.8", which fits quite easily into pockets if designed well, and with a tiny bezel, is not that much bigger than the current iPhone.

Maybe this is true. But you have to make a stand. a 4.5 inch device nest year becomes a 5 inch or larger in 2016 or even sooner. It's not a good trend.
 
Maybe this is true. But you have to make a stand. a 4.5 inch device nest year becomes a 5 inch or larger in 2016 or even sooner. It's not a good trend.

Even though I like the size of the Galaxy Note because want something between a phone and tablet. There needs or should be smart phones at the 4" mark or even 3.5" because they are nice when you want something easy to hold.
 
Erm. That's the 'joke'

Bob Monkhouse circa 1998


When I said I was going to become a comedian, they all laughed. Well, they're not laughing now, are they?

Oh I took it in a different context... Sorry... I was just kidding anyways... :p
 
In the 60+ years of my life there have been many times when saving $80 today was far more important that getting an extra $100 later.

Sure, we all have. It just bugs me when people think, or sometimes even brag, that they are saving money when in the long term they probably aren't with total cost of ownership. And besides that end up with an lessor product. It shouldn't, but it does! ;)
 
Sure, we all have. It just bugs me when people think, or sometimes even brag, that they are saving money when in the long term they probably aren't with total cost of ownership. And besides that end up with an lessor product. It shouldn't, but it does! ;)

I think it really helps when said person knows exactly what they are doing vs thinking something is better than it really is because they can't do first grade math.
 
In the 60+ years of my life there have been many times when saving $80 today was far more important that getting an extra $100 later.

If anyone is in that position regularly and buying a smart phone, then perhaps that person shouldn't buy a smart phone with a minimum $70 monthly cost.
Perhaps he/she should just buy a dumb phone instead?

Or if it's just a one time occurrence, then that person might be better off to wait until that person is in a better situation economically.
 
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I personally think the 5C is a total ripoff, more than what Apple usually does. I mean, it is the iPhone 5 but they cut corners and saved up on production. They made an inferior product so they won't have to sell Aluminum iPhone 5 at a last year's price tag.
 
Reading some of the comments on this thread,anyone would believe the 5c is a terrible, cheap, worthless phone.
It has the same tech that -until one week ago- was the latest and greatest! It's an iPhone 5 in a different case. And it's a terrific handset.
We should not forget that tech informed people like us, are a minority in a market of millions of people who doesn't know what processor is in their phones, or how old are the parts inside. They care about the usability, taking decent pics and having a phone they like, specially if they can have such a device for 100$ less than the high end model. And I see the 5c is a good choice for that people. That's who it is aimed to.
As an Apple user for long time and a regular reader of tech blogs and Apple related content, I do know that an iPhone 5c is not the best choice for me, although i do like it a lot.
But it is for hundreds of thousands of people out there, who don't necessarily read tech blogs :)
 
If anyone is in that position regularly and buying a smart phone, then perhaps that person shouldn't buy a smart phone with a minimum $70 monthly cost.
Perhaps he/she should just buy a dumb phone instead?

Or if it's just a one time occurrence, then that person might be better off to wait until that person is in a better situation economically.

I' really glad the world has somebody like you to tell everyone how to live their lives.
 
Reading some of the comments on this thread,anyone would believe the 5c is a terrible, cheap, worthless phone.

It has the same tech that -until one week ago- was the latest and greatest! It's an iPhone 5 in a different case. And it's a terrific handset.

It'll be interesting to see if the 5C, with a plastic case and no bezel, has better or worse reception than the 5 did.

Will the metal chassis inside most of the back be helpful or a hindrance?

Was this mentioned in the keynote?
 
It'll be interesting to see if the 5C, with a plastic case and no bezel, has better or worse reception than the 5 did.

Will the metal chassis inside most of the back be helpful or a hindrance?

Was this mentioned in the keynote?

According to the 5c presentation video they showed on the keynote (it's also up on Apple iPhone 5c site), the metal chassis leaves the upper and lower ends of the handset uncovered, so radio signals can pass trhu (much in the fashion the iPhone 5 and 5s's aluminum body, with upper and lower "windows", but on the inside of the plastic shell).
It's also been confirmed by the blueprints Apple deliver to case makers, where they show the areas that shouldn't be covered by metal cases.
Being plastic, I suppose reception should be fine. But we'll see in the next weeks if it's an issue. No mention of that on the early press reviews released last Tuesday.
 
It'll be interesting to see if the 5C, with a plastic case and no bezel, has better or worse reception than the 5 did.

Will the metal chassis inside most of the back be helpful or a hindrance?

Was this mentioned in the keynote?

The side pieces form the antenna per Jony Ive in the 5c video on Apple.com, and the back piece is shielding from the looks of the video. I wouldn't even have to guess that it has been thoroughly EM tested in their test chambers and in the field. Still, until it is in people's hands, effectiveness is unknown.

The reviews of the completed iPhone 5c are that the device is very stiff and feels solid, almost like ceramic is one reviewer's comment.

So I would say that the pieces of the metal chassis are helpful. Whether the 5c sets the bar for a plastic smartphone chassis is undetermined.
 
Your 4 is doing fine? Seriously? That is impressive. Mine is in struggle mode. May have something to do with the less than 500Mb available.

I do most of my stuff on the iMac, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air and iPad, so it doesn't bother me if my iPhone 4 is a bit slow in comparison. But then again, Apple needs people like you to upgrade incessantly to bring back health to its share price, and shift the USD from American wallets to Apple's cash stash.
 
I do most of my stuff on the iMac, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air and iPad, so it doesn't bother me if my iPhone 4 is a bit slow in comparison. But then again, Apple needs people like you to upgrade incessantly to bring back health to its share price, and shift the USD from American wallets to Apple's cash stash.

says the guy with 5 apple products. Speed is not the only issue. Battery life, freezing and a nonresponsive home button are some other issues. Also, I don't think incessant means what you think it means. Over 2.5 years for a cell phone is nothing to sneeze at...not to mention I get to pass it to someone else so I don't have to buy them a new phone.
 
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