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Ya know, stuff like this really bothers me. A cheap plastic iPhone does not represent Apples Culture/DNA. Apple is a premium brand! If Steve was alive, he would never allow a cheaper plastic iPhone with the sole purpose of gaining market share. I feel that Tim Cook and his executives are losing sight of what's truly important. Not only that, I feel that they are losing sight of Steve's remarkable vision for Apple.


Isn't your Apple TV made of "cheap plastic" that goes against the DNA of Apple?
 
Ya know, stuff like this really bothers me. A cheap plastic iPhone does not represent Apples Culture/DNA. Apple is a premium brand! If Steve was alive, he would never allow a cheaper plastic iPhone with the sole purpose of gaining market share. I feel that Tim Cook and his executives are losing sight of what's truly important. Not only that, I feel that they are losing sight of Steve's remarkable vision for Apple.

Steve is gone. He isn't coming back unless he's coming back as a White Walker.

In all honesty, you do what you need to do to survive. According to studies, Tim is merely trying to survive in regions outside of the US where few are willing to pay the premium for Apple products. It's not sustainable to keep saying you are better than everyone else when no one is buying your products except die-hard fans. I also doubt that Apple's definition of "cheap" doesn't line up with our version of "cheap."

As an iPhone user who is due for an upgrade, I cannot wait to see what Sept. 10th reveals, if that's when the actual date is since it's just speculation.
 
Ya know, stuff like this really bothers me. A cheap plastic iPhone does not represent Apples Culture/DNA. Apple is a premium brand! If Steve was alive, he would never allow a cheaper plastic iPhone with the sole purpose of gaining market share.

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yet, another news dedicated to China...

news about the new iphone, fine

news about the new iphone for China, i don't care :rolleyes:

Everyone else in the world had to deal with the hundreds of articles about Verizon and other US carriers. WWW stands for world wide web. If you don't care about the news, don't post comments about it.
 
Ya know, stuff like this really bothers me. A cheap plastic iPhone does not represent Apples Culture/DNA. Apple is a premium brand! If Steve was alive, he would never allow a cheaper plastic iPhone with the sole purpose of gaining market share. I feel that Tim Cook and his executives are losing sight of what's truly important. Not only that, I feel that they are losing sight of Steve's remarkable vision for Apple.

Yet Steve Jobs approved having the white Macbook coexist with the aluminum Macbook Pros.

Steve had vision, yes, but also a lot of market savvy.
 
If that price is correct then I am guessing it will be about $549.00 in Australia. iPhone 4 is currently $449.00, so I would be guessing the lineup will be something like this.

iPhone 5s - $799.00
iPhone 5 - $679.00
iPhone 5c - $549.00
 
In this economy with China entering a *recession*? It is going to be a tall order.

I don't think that word means what you think it means

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I wonder when people will figure out they're neither clever nor funny with these comments.

It's funny because I had the exact same thought when I read that post. People are always trying to coin the next phrase, but I wonder if when you type something as unfunny as that, do you really think it's going to be the one that catches on?
 
Ya know, stuff like this really bothers me. A cheap plastic iPhone does not represent Apples Culture/DNA. Apple is a premium brand! If Steve was alive, he would never allow a cheaper plastic iPhone with the sole purpose of gaining market share. I feel that Tim Cook and his executives are losing sight of what's truly important. Not only that, I feel that they are losing sight of Steve's remarkable vision for Apple.

Apple(not Steve) knew that had to make a more affordable phone... it is that simple.

SJ knew, but was not all about it I'm sure... the only thing SJ & Apple could have done to slow this down - was not sign the exclusivity with AT&T in 07' that lead to Android creating user adoption by many from '08-''10. Simply put, the 11,000+ Android devices have created adoption in many international markets, not just in the U.S.

This iPhone 5C conceptually to me is only constructed/derived within Apple Inc because Android has absolutely killed emerging and international markets with a low initial price point. Apple wants to gain back some market share by creating more opportunity through a lower price point... it's that simple. If not for Android, this phone may not have been created for a couple more years, but one day, through competition and the mere capitalism of products/business - the cheaper iPhone being in poly was coming.

They will gain back some market share, not a lot, but they will gain back the market share they want, and also allow the iPhone & iOS to be more affordable around the world.

Apple still needs to harness iMessage & FaceTime, and their only-Apple functions in these markets, so families & groups gain adoption and not just the individual user.
 
Ya know, stuff like this really bothers me. A cheap plastic iPhone does not represent Apples Culture/DNA. Apple is a premium brand! If Steve was alive, he would never allow a cheaper plastic iPhone with the sole purpose of gaining market share. I feel that Tim Cook and his executives are losing sight of what's truly important. Not only that, I feel that they are losing sight of Steve's remarkable vision for Apple.

Time will tell, but it seems that way indeed.
 
Ya know, stuff like this really bothers me. A cheap plastic iPhone does not represent Apples Culture/DNA. Apple is a premium brand! If Steve was alive, he would never allow a cheaper plastic iPhone with the sole purpose of gaining market share. I feel that Tim Cook and his executives are losing sight of what's truly important. Not only that, I feel that they are losing sight of Steve's remarkable vision for Apple.

I'm sorry?

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I understood this early - the colors!

But accusations of having a racist idea was the answer. And I do remember the thinking people - those, who did defend me :)
 
People prior to 5C launch: eww, cheap plastic, blegh.

People after 5C launch: I love it, feels so good in the hand, the white one looks better than the 5S, same performance as iPhone 5 but a lower price, better than 5S, design is better even though it's plastic, blabla.
 
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Apple wants to gain back some market share by creating more opportunity through a lower price point... it's that simple..

“Market share is important and unit share is important,” Cook said. “But we’re all about customer experience and enriching lives.”

Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/23/a...-care-about-market-share/#UJaaL7dg3iTXO1OF.99

Yeah, right... :roll eyes: Plastic devices, bring them on! If things where really "simple" then Apple should just be honest here and accept that market share is what the shareholders of Apple are interested in, if plastic would 'enriching lives' then plastic it shall be.... it's that simple.

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Plastic is the metaphor for cheap. In within this context, yeah it's cheap all right.
 
I wonder when people will figure out they're neither clever nor funny with these comments.

I wonder if all the years Apple Fans said every other mobile phone was cheap "because" it was cheap plastic.

Most of these "Cheap Plastic" elitists don't realise that the original iPhone was plastic and prone to cracks.

A mobile phone in the US is not a status symbol. A top of the line mobile flagship phone costs as much if not more than the iPhone 5 non subsidized.

I think they are just getting a harsh taste of reality and can't accept that Apple has to go where the market it, because the market isn't going to where Apple is in the past year.
 
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“Market share is important and unit share is important,” Cook said. “But we’re all about customer experience and enriching lives.”

Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/23/a...-care-about-market-share/#UJaaL7dg3iTXO1OF.99

Yeah, right... :roll eyes: Plastic devices, bring them on! If things where really "simple" then Apple should just be honest here and accept that market share is what the shareholders of Apple are interested in, if plastic would 'enriching lives' then plastic it shall be.... it's that simple.
You're a fool to think decisions like this are based on one parameter. Market share IS important. Let me clue you in Skyler, I am not in danger. Ehh, I mean, let me clue you in, the main USP of the iPhone 5(S) is the ecosystem. The ecosystem cannot sustain without a decent marketshare. Thus, in order to maintain the most important USP for the iPhone 5S, Apple needs to release a cheaper iPhone.

Also, read this: Defending iOS with cheap iPhones

This means that the financial value of a cheaper iPhone cannot be considered in isolation. A large part of its purpose is to defend sales of the high-end model.
 
Ya know, stuff like this really bothers me. A cheap plastic iPhone does not represent Apples Culture/DNA. Apple is a premium brand! If Steve was alive, he would never allow a cheaper plastic iPhone with the sole purpose of gaining market share. I feel that Tim Cook and his executives are losing sight of what's truly important. Not only that, I feel that they are losing sight of Steve's remarkable vision for Apple.

Even SJ said Apple made a mistake in the late eighties and early nineties not going for market share with the Mac and instead going for profits. I guess at some point market share matters. Apple must now feel that time is now. Let's see how this plays out.
 
Ya know, stuff like this really bothers me. A cheap plastic iPhone does not represent Apples Culture/DNA. Apple is a premium brand! If Steve was alive, he would never allow a cheaper plastic iPhone with the sole purpose of gaining market share. I feel that Tim Cook and his executives are losing sight of what's truly important. Not only that, I feel that they are losing sight of Steve's remarkable vision for Apple.

*sigh* Another person who seems to think they "know" Steve Jobs better than Steve Jobs himself. Lets see, when Steve returned to Apple he famously changed the product strategy to a 2 sided matrix consisting of consumer/professional. Professional products were their typical highest end product, the aluminum styling started first with the Pro products. And surprise surprise, the consumer products used to be made out of PLASTIC.

Quit acting like plastic is so out of character for Apple. This is perfectly in line with how Apple sets up product families. Just because Apple has spoiled you so far by only having a single premium iPhone release at a time, doesn't mean its out of character for Apple to expand that product family to include a high-end and low-end.
 
Even SJ said Apple made a mistake in the late eighties and early nineties not going for market share with the Mac and instead going for profits. I guess at some point market share matters. Apple must now feel that time is now. Let's see how this plays out.
Yep.
If that’s so, then why is the Mac market share, even after Apple’s recent revival, sputtering at a measly 5 percent? Jobs has a theory about that, too. Once a company devises a great product, he says, it has a monopoly in that realm, and concentrates less on innovation than protecting its turf. “The Mac user interface was a 10-year monopoly,” says Jobs. “Who ended up running the company? Sales guys. At the critical juncture in the late ’80s, when they should have gone for market share, they went for profits. They made obscene profits for several years. And their products became mediocre. And then their monopoly ended with Windows 95. They behaved like a monopoly, and it came back to bite them, which always happens.”
- Steve Jobs
 
Ya know, stuff like this really bothers me. A cheap plastic iPhone does not represent Apples Culture/DNA. Apple is a premium brand! If Steve was alive, he would never allow a cheaper plastic iPhone with the sole purpose of gaining market share. I feel that Tim Cook and his executives are losing sight of what's truly important. Not only that, I feel that they are losing sight of Steve's remarkable vision for Apple.

Is this ok?

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Troll level: expert.

I'm not a troll. I've been using apple products for 12 years. I love apple and every product it's made. All I'm saying is that when Apple makes a product, it's made because it's meant to be a great quality/premium product for the consumer. Its made with unique great quality design, engineering and precision. It's made to enrich peoples loves. This iPhone 5C seems that it's just being made for the sole purpose of increasing market share for Apple. Last time I checked, Apple doesn't care about things like market share, they care about making world class products.
 
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