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I'd really like the capability to take higher fps videos more than the additional megapixels.
 
They should take note from the HTC One with their camera. It's less megapixels but a much larger sensor. The pictures, while smaller than an 8 or 12 megapixel shooter, look great and night shots/dark environments come out excellent without artifacts and visual disturbances. I'd gladly take a 6mp sensor that takes excellent pictures than a 12mp one that just takes huge ones.

Wasn't Steve talking about this with the iPhone 4 introduction?
Larger sensors = More photons gathered > More megapixels
 
Uhh, good thing the rumor is they are doing both?

I for one welcome an improvement in both areas. I think people need to remember that Apple has been on the leading edge, the BEST, of mainstream* phone cameras. It's everyone else who is just now catching up.



*Yes I know there are one or two phones with better cameras, but they were designed around the camera and have a giant bump etc., the iPhone is a mainstream phone that happens to have the best camera!

8mp is plenty. There is really no need for 12 in a mobile phone. Concentrate on the sensor and the flash. Apple bumping from 8 to 12 (if true) is mostly a marketing ploy for the uneducated consumer. And if ur not consistently printing out large photos, it's of hardly no benefit at all.
 
They should take note from the HTC One with their camera. It's less megapixels but a much larger sensor. The pictures, while smaller than an 8 or 12 megapixel shooter, look great and night shots/dark environments come out excellent without artifacts and visual disturbances. I'd gladly take a 6mp sensor that takes excellent pictures than a 12mp one that just takes huge ones.

It isn't really much larger, it is just the fact that they reduce the MP. iPhone 5 has 1/3.2" and HTC One is 1/3".

The main difference is that they essentially combine 4 pixels into one to give each pixel more light. What I am wondering is whether they actually have different sensor hardware, or if they just have a software controller that combines the values.

I do hope Apple does something similar though..if only to give an option for smaller file size.
 
It's great that low light level sensors have become important to cell phone manufacturers. I'd love to see some emphasis on a larger field of view as well. The ip5 has about a 33mm equivalent, lets see 25mm please!
 

The original poster was complaining that file sizes would increase going from 8mp to 12mp but that is not going to be the case unless Apple get's unconventional.
Generally as a rule mobile phones are set to produce ~1-2meg files regardless of other settings, IIRC DSLR's are generally set to ~5meg photo sizes by default but there are options for more or less (or even RAW).
 
what a waste of space guys.
do u think we have an option to shoot in a smaller size?

these files will be huge

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you must be an inexperienced dslr user if you think you'll put away your gear for an iphone.

I could equally say you must be an inexperienced photographer to not be aware that MANY professional photographers are indeed switching to the iphone as their main camera. I'm not saying an iphone is better. For some things, it clearly is not.

But for many, it is becoming their preferred camera of choice. No joke. Some magazine covers are actually being shot with iPhones now. The Oscar winning doc this year was finished using an iphone. A famous war photographer shooting in Afghanistan has switched mainly using an iphone. The most popular camera on Flickr is the iphone.

It may be easy to ridicule or dismiss the iphone, but I think that's snobbish. Don't be surprised to see more and more DSLR photogs switching to the iphone. Especially as Apple continues to improve its camera & software. Don't laugh. Remember, not too long ago, photographers like you were saying the same thing about how DSLRs would never be able to compete with traditional film SLRs. ;-)
 
I would love to see them put a zoom lens in the style of the Minolta DiMAGE X line where it was like a periscope so it didn't protrude. But that's wishful thinking.
 
Now, this has got to be fake

Why on earth is Apple sticking a 12-megapixel camera on a their phone .. ?

Why can't they just do what they always do to improve resolution ..... just add more lenses ? That's what Apple's been used to, and still is.

Night shot mode ? umm.. ok

Its already dark..... Use a flash..
 
Why on earth is Apple sticking a 12-megapixel camera on a their phone .. ?

Why can't they just do what they always do to improve resolution ..... just add more lenses ? That's what Apple's been used to, and still is.

Night shot mode ? umm.. ok

Its already dark..... Use a flash..

More lenses does not equate to improved resolution. Every piece of glass reduces light transmission by some amount. You want the least amount of glass elements between subject and sensor.

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But for many, it is becoming their preferred camera of choice. No joke. Some magazine covers are actually being shot with iPhones now. The Oscar winning doc this year was finished using an iphone. A famous war photographer shooting in Afghanistan has switched mainly using an iphone. The most popular camera on Flickr is the iphone.

Having just returned from NAB last week, I can agree with you. Every year, there are more and more add on devices to improve acquisition quality with iDevices. I'm writing an article right now for another site about another new piece of hardware for the iPad.

With apps like Filmic Pro, you can do some amazing stuff.
 
More lenses does not equate to improved resolution. Every piece of glass reduces light transmission by some amount. You want the least amount of glass elements between subject and sensor.

True, but Apple has always used multiple lenses in the iPhone 4s and 5. There is a reason.
 
I could equally say you must be an inexperienced photographer to not be aware that MANY professional photographers are indeed switching to the iphone as their main camera. I'm not saying an iphone is better. For some things, it clearly is not.

But for many, it is becoming their preferred camera of choice. No joke. Some magazine covers are actually being shot with iPhones now. The Oscar winning doc this year was finished using an iphone. A famous war photographer shooting in Afghanistan has switched mainly using an iphone. The most popular camera on Flickr is the iphone.

It may be easy to ridicule or dismiss the iphone, but I think that's snobbish. Don't be surprised to see more and more DSLR photogs switching to the iphone. Especially as Apple continues to improve its camera & software. Don't laugh. Remember, not too long ago, photographers like you were saying the same thing about how DSLRs would never be able to compete with traditional film SLRs. ;-)

Source? Or sources? I'd like to see where many professional photographers are using the iPhone as their main camera. Also, which magazine covers? And what Oscar winning documentary was finished on an iPhone? Who is the famous war photographer in Afghanistan using the iPhone? Comparing a $2 plastic lens to a high quality DSLR lens does make me chuckle to be honest.
 
Ummm, not sure what physics class you went to. The digital zoom thing is correct, but if the image sensor size is the same with more megapixels, you have a much smaller pixel pitch (IE physical size of the photosite), if the photosites are smaller, they are much more susceptible to gain (noise) which then has to be controlled in software which needs more CPU power.

Why do so many of you think that Apple is going to just increase the number of pixels and leave the quality of the sensor alone? The sensor size may or may not increase but technology doesn't stand still, the sensor on Apple's flagship product will be cutting edge. It's not going to be 2012 technology. More pixels, better sensor, better lens = better quality photos.

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Fix the shutter speed. Blurred pictures suck and are a common occurrence.

Add more light to your photos and you'll get a faster shutter speed.
 
Apple has to up the megapixel count for marketing purposes alone. Those comparing the iPhone to the new Androids this year with immediately say the iPhone is inferior if it shipped with 8MP while the other phones have 13. To the average consumer more megapixels = better camera.
 
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