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BREAKING NEWS! Apple can't sell the same product 2 years In a row.

Yet they do year after year, and it is that phone that is always most successful in terms of sales.

As has been said, launch weekend will skew towards the newer product. The 5c will catch up through the upcoming months.

The 5c will also be a natural choice for teenagers who are not buying their own phones. Parents will look to save the $100.
 
To the few people who thought 5C would sell well in China, here's what I've read in a Chinese forums:

"I've talked to a China Unicom employee in one of their shops. The 5s are out of stock, with the gold-coloured being the most popular. They still have 200 pcs of 5c, with all kinds of colours, but no one is buying them."

5c, if they've designed that so it can exploit the low-mid market (though now I think that Apple never intended to do so), is a complete failure. Particularly in China, despite what you guys may think of, there actually exist a ton of filthy rich people who won't blink a bit to buy the 5s. The remaining consumers would buy 5c only if it's priced at $400 or less. In developing countries (or China at least), you have only two consumer groups - those who are (semi-)rich and can buy $600 phones easily and those who won't buy anything more than $400.
 
Does this analysis have the ability to tell unique users, or is it just the number of website hits?

I have to say I'm skeptical how accurate these numbers are, depending on how their numbers work it's entirely possible that the kind of user who buys a 5s goes online right away and does a ton of heavy use, while 5c users are more casual and just don't go to as many websites as quickly.

Plus I also have my doubts that Apple was able to have in the range of 6.7 million 5s phones ready to sell opening weekend.

I guess we'll probably get real numbers at some point. I'd be surprised if the real numbers match up to these, but even if they do, the 5c will probably end up selling many more in the long run.

BREAKING NEWS! Apple can't sell the same product 2 years In a row.

Apple has proved that wrong every year. Last year, much to everyone's surprise, Apple revealed that they sold more of the discounted previous year's phone than the new one. This year it's likely to be the same again and Apple knew that so they redesigned the previous version with a couple slight improvements and a new case which makes it seem more fresh to Joe Consumer, and likely makes it cheaper to manufacture.
 
Not a very reliable metric for calculating sales -- correlation doesn't mean causation.

For example, people who purchase a 5S are probably more likely to be "power users" who surf more on their device, which means they would not have a 1:1 relationship for surfing. (it's not outside the realm of possibility that they surf 3.5x as much as a 5C user, meaning that sales would roughly be equal)...
 
To the few people who thought 5C would sell well in China, here's what I've read in a Chinese forums:

"I've talked to a China Unicom employee in one of their shops. The 5s are out of stock, with the gold-coloured being the most popular. They still have 200 pcs of 5c, with all kinds of colours, but no one is buying them."

5c, if they've designed that so it can exploit the low-mid market (though now I think that Apple never intended to do so), is a complete failure. Particularly in China, despite what you guys may think of, there actually exist a ton of filthy rich people who won't blink a bit to buy the 5s. The remaining consumers would buy 5c only if it's priced at $400 or less. In developing countries (or China at least), you have only two consumer groups - those who are (semi-)rich and can buy $600 phones easily and those who won't buy anything more than $400.

The phone was never intended to compete in the below $400 market in China, at least this year. It was to gain share from the top down in developed markets, which it is actually doing.
 
Does this analysis have the ability to tell unique users, or is it just the number of website hits?

I have to say I'm skeptical how accurate these numbers are, depending on how their numbers work it's entirely possible that the kind of user who buys a 5s goes online right away and does a ton of heavy use, while 5c users are more casual and just don't go to as many websites as quickly.

Plus I also have my doubts that Apple was able to have in the range of 6.7 million 5s phones ready to sell opening weekend.

I guess we'll probably get real numbers at some point. I'd be surprised if the real numbers match up to these, but even if they do, the 5c will probably end up selling many more in the long run.

You beat me to the punch. :)
 
By how much did the iPhone 5 outsell the 4S on its launch weekend last year at this time?

If its anywhere similar, huge win by Apple, since 4S was still a premium build, and 5C cost reduced to plastic junk.
 
Maybe because the 5c is an iPhone 5 wrapped in colored plastic :eek:

More likely because most of the 'early adopters' are already in the Apple eco-system and we know the game of selling your currnt iPhone to pay fo rthe upgrade.

Over time people that don't need the latest and greatest, or what to get iPhone for kids will opt for the iPhone 5c models.
 
No surprise here.. The legions of iPhone Apple faithful are going to be ready to pull the trigger on the latest and greatest.

I expect the 5C will be more casual users, people that aren't setting their alarm clocks for early morning purchases.

Give it time, the 5C will be just fine.
 
No, evidence that the 5C is not cheap enough.

Right, Apple doesn't need to offer a cheaper phone to drive record breaking launch sales.

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Only because the 'cheap' phone was also very expensive. If it was priced at ~£300-350 off contract, it would sell like hot cakes.

Not necessarily. Consumers aren't looking for low priced devices if they are considering Apple.
 
Probably a bigger difference between the 5 and 4S last year.

No, the 4S is still a premium phone whose unique design can still be preferred to the 5 by late adopters.

The 5C is well built, but not premium, and the savings only go to Apple.
 
By how much did the iPhone 5 outsell the 4S on its launch weekend last year at this time?

If its anywhere similar, huge win by Apple, since 4S was still a premium build, and 5C cost reduced to plastic junk.

iPhone 5C likely sold many more times the 4S last year. 5C is actually a beautifully built device. Try one out.

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No, the 4S was still a premium phone whose unique design can still be preferred to the 5 by late adopters.

The 5C is well built, but not premium, and the savings only go to Apple.

I was talking about sales
 
This doesn't come to a surprise to many, as opening weekend is going to have people clamoring for the flagship device.

I think the 5c will do fine in the coming months.
 
5C sales at 2-3 million (the real number is likely closer to 3 million) is a pretty big win...
 
iPhone 5C likely sold many more times the 4S last year. 5C is actually a beautifully built device. Try one out.

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I was talking about sales

Yes, I am saying that the 4 is still a more desirable phone than the 5C.
 
iPhone 5C likely sold many more times the 4S last year. 5C is actually a beautifully built device. Try one out.

No interest. Per Apples specs, it is identical in function and performance to my 5, but thicker, fatter, and heavier.
 
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