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Interesting figures. If accurate (which honestly, I doubt, but they may be close enough to make the argument), it means there wasn't any artificial constraining of the 5s, that was real actual demand leading it to sell out. They sold more of the 5s model than they sold of all iPhones last year's first weekend, by about two million. Of course anyone rational was already saying Apple was making as many units available to customers as possible, but it's nice to see the data back it up. I doubt we'll see many of the crazies admit they were wrong about their wild conspiracy theories, though.

Anyway, I was going to ask the FedEx guy when he dropped off my 5s this morning if today was busier or Friday was, in order to get some sense of which model was selling better. Unfortunately he had left the box by my front door and was well on his way back to the truck before I got to the door. I didn't have to sign (ordered through AT&T), so I missed my chance to ask.

In the long run, I expect the 5c to close the gap. First weekend buyers aren't 5c customers, by-and-large. The 5c sales will pick up as Apple advertises it more on TV, and kids see their friends with them. We'll see if the 5c ever overtakes the 5s, but I fully expect the c-models to beat out the high end models in the years to come, just as the iPod Mini did vs. the Classic.

The difference is that the iPod mini was actually a superior form factor to the iPod Classic for most users... The "C models" may edge the flagships eventually, but this isn't an iPod situation
 
So what's the point of the 5c ?

Retailers learned long ago that they should stock 3 types of product next to each other on the store shelves. The expensive product made the cheaper ones look like a better deal and sell better. The cheap product made the more expensive ones look more desirable and sell better. Thus, they all sold better just because they were next to the others. Dumb and easily manipulable consumers predominate.
 
You don't understand that the 4 is still a premium phone while the 5C isn't. And the 5C still costs what the 5 would cost now.

What makes the 5c not a "premium" phone? Because it's made out of colorful plastic? I think Jony Ive ("Mr. Unapologetically Plastic") would take issue with you on that.

I have an iPhone 5 and I, for one, am glad they discontinued it. I love my phone; but they needed to make sure all the LTE-capable iPhones going forward were capable of communicating on pretty much all the LTE bands used worldwide. The iPhone 5 was a mess when it came to which model of the phone worked on which LTE bands around the globe.

Since a certain percentage of consumers want colorful phones, it obviously made good business sense for Apple to fix the LTE band mess that was the iPhone 5 and put it in a colorful plastic shell instead of putting it in a shell that looks just like the iPhone 5. Kill two birds with one stone.
 
Hopefully Apple realises that they priced the iPhone 5C too high and we actually get the low-cost iPhone we all wanted.

Right... they should price it to lose money and make it up on volume. :D
Seriously, its simply an indication that people buy 'Apple' because they want top of line quality. If they want cheap crap, they'll buy Android.
 
By how much did the iPhone 5 outsell the 4S on its launch weekend last year at this time?

If its anywhere similar, huge win by Apple, since 4S was still a premium build, and 5C cost reduced to plastic junk.

Plastic doesn't always equal junk. It just depends on the quality of the build and materials. Apple is usually good about making a quality made product these days.
 
this should continue until at least christmas as supplies of the 5S are pretty poor and so will take some time to catch up especially in colours other than black. As for the 5C I don't see them increasing in popularity as they aren't enough cheaper to justify getting one unless you really want the colour. I am sure the margins on the 5C are amazing though so it should be a wonderful quarter for Apple
 
This is only a surprise to those MR readers who actually thought the melt-in-your-mouth-not-in-your-hand candy shell was going to be "selling like hot cakes" and a huge consumer product.

With old internals and plastic shell at a piddly discount, it is NO SURPRISE people were willing to wait(!) and pay more for the 5S.
 
In case this has not be said already, but keep in mind... the 5c is probably not going to do as well in the US market (which this info is all about) as it might in other markets. But it does make sense that the 5s is the BIG seller for the early adopters.
 
Those camped out want the latest thing. I'm still using my iPhone 4 on SIM-only but if it stopped working and I chose to buy again I'd quite likely choose the 5C. I rarely buy the absolute top of the line as the value isn't there.
 
Sorry 5s too rich for me. 5c also too rich for me. If it were at least $100 cheaper I'd buy one. Instead I'm looking to a used 5.

I wonder how many customers there are like me out there that won't buy the 5c or 5s but would have bought the 5c if it were cheaper. I also wonder how many 5s sales would be cannibalized by the 5c if it were cheaper. Shake it all out in the end and does Apple come out ahead or behind with a cheaper 5c?
 
Higher priced phone is more popular? More evidence pointing to why Apple does not need to make a "cheap" phone.

There are plenty of other ways to look at it.

More evidence that consumers are not naive enough to buy a plastic phone with fewer features, when a phone for slightly more money is much more advanced.

More evidence that the color scheme apple chose is hideous.

More evidence that folks wanted a cheaper alternative. Since there isn't one, they are going for the newer tech.

etc...
 
Parents (being one myself) who have any self respect, won't pay for their kids to have a $2,400 dollar contract for a mobile phone, regardless of the subsidized up-front cost.

All I can say is that you reap what you sow, and teaching your kids that spending that kind of money on them is financially responsible is only going to hurt them in the long run.

You can get a cell phone for $50 off-contract, and pay-go for 10-40 bucks a month depending on what you need, service-wise. Any kid with an iphone who isn't working full time and paying for phone/car/insurance themselves is learning the wrong things about life, and boy, are their parents going to be confused one day when their 35 year old son is living in the basement. Where did we go wrong, honey?

Who pays $100 per month on a line for their kids? I can add an iPhone on to my AT&T family plan for around $40 a month. That's a little over a dollar per day and adds up to $960 for two years.
 
If people think about this, it isn't all that surprising.

What type of person will be waiting in line for a new iPhone - the type who wants the latest and greatest, aka the iPhone 5S.

Down the line, however, the 5C will likely catch up in popularity as those looking for a "cheaper" upgrade could go for the colorful, durable 5C option.

Way to early to call the 5C a fail or flop as we have no yet reached the time period/consumer base for which the phone was intended.

The 5c is what kids will get for Christmas when their parents renew the family plan. At that point, Apple will probably allow some stores deals to make that $99 proce free under special circumstances. Then the 4s sales will fall off after New Years/ next quarter (mostly as out of warranty replacements)
 
What we really need is sales comparisons of the iPhone 5 vs iPhone 4S during last year's launch. I'm guessing the ratio was pretty similar.
 
Sorry 5s too rich for me. 5c also too rich for me. If it were at least $100 cheaper I'd buy one. Instead I'm looking to a used 5.

Want to know how upset Apple will be that you'll be entering their ecosystem with a preowned model instead of a fresh, new one?

Not very.

They'll catch you next time.
 
The total cost of the 5c with the cheapest AT&T contract is 95% of the total cost of the 5s with the same contract.

People buying the 5c aren't "budget conscious", they either fail at math and economics or they prefer to get a permanent plastic cover instead of having to buy one for the 5s.
I m neither one of those . I liked the 5c so i got it. I might just as well buy 5s this week. I pay full price for my phones Being stuck in contract is pointless in my opinion.
 
And Apple would make little-no margin on the phone... Unless they downgraded the phone internals

link? The ONLY thing we know, based on what apple said, was the they could not make the fabrication/assembly process of the 5 cheap enough to sell at a lower price.
 
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