iPhone 5S Production Will Reportedly Begin Later This Month

[asthamapheo]

Refresh internals as in using the next-gen chips, not refresh as reusing the same chips with a bit more speed added. They've upgraded single-core to a newer dual-core A5 chip, a newer generation of GPU chips, a faster Wi-Fi chipset and so on in iPhone 4S.

We don't know anything about iPhone 5S right now. I believe Apple will go quad-core GPU, higher-clocked dual-core CPU A7, 2GB of RAM, improved radio with 802.11ac support, and a slightly improved battery.

Apple doesn't care about NFC, I still haven't seen any useful purposes for it and from what I've seen of my Android folks, they don't either. I rather they not bloat it up with useless features and focused on better features that people will use, like improved cameras and more RAM for the new expanded multi-tasking feature in iOS 7.

Widgets/Homescreen is more of an iOS thing and so far, iOS 7 doesn't have them, so don't expect anything of that sort.

is a quad-core GPU really a good idea in the time of 72 core GPU (tegra 4), the RAM, CPU, WiFi, battery power these things havent leaked yet so we cant really talk about these, i agree with you that NFC is still not widely used but it is replacing the QR codes so why not adopt a good thing early, widgets/ homescreens are really useful (i had an android phone before joining the iphone club) and i really miss those widgets and homescreens, believe me, they're really useful.

 

[9947273]

Sure. Name five things besides camera and processor/RAM upgrades

1) bigger screen. Somewhere around 5" is my personal preference, but no bigger.
2) Atleast a 1080p display to go with the larger screen.
3) NFC. Such a great feature when used properly. Look at MKBHD's YouTube video if you aren't sure why.
4) Front facing speakers. They sound incredible on the HTC One, especially for a phone.
5) More rugged/weatherproof. I don't want to have a case on my phone in case i drop it. I want to feel safe in the knowledge that it won't break. It would also be easily done for them to make it waterproof. it so easy with something like liquipel (I think that is what it is called?)
These are all changes that I think would make the phone better.

 

[LostSoul80]

I fail to see why they wouldn't launch the 5S in August.

 

[MikhailT]

is a quad-core GPU really a good idea in the time of 72 core GPU (tegra 4), the RAM, CPU, WiFi, battery power these things havent leaked yet so we cant really talk about these, i agree with you that NFC is still not widely used but it is replacing the QR codes so why not adopt a good thing early, widgets/ homescreens are really useful (i had an android phone before joining the iphone club) and i really miss those widgets and homescreens, believe me, they're really useful.

You need to learn more about GPUs because a 72-core GPU from nVidia doesn't automatically mean it's much faster than quad-core GPU from Imagination Technologies. They both are using two different types of architectures. The latter unifies their vector units and so on, when nVidia's Tegra don't. If you include the # of units in latter case, Apple's iPad 4 is actually using 128-core GPU but that's not accurate because of how it works.

Tegra 3 for an example is a 12-core GPU and it's not faster than a dual-core GPU from Apple's iPad 3. Tegra 4 will be on par or faster with the iPad 4's GPU, we don't know until we see more reviews.

The question then becomes, how much faster is iPad 6's GPU compared to iPad 5.

You can find out more here from Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6666/the-tegra-4-gpu-nvidia-claims-better-performance-than-ipad-4

Also, I made a mistake of saying Apple's going quad-core GPU, they've already done that in iPad 4. So, it is likely they'll up the speed there.

 

[J.acks]

The glass back was a horribly expensive design flaw. It was expensive to use the glass...and it was expensive for the consumer when the glass would break despite being in a case. My aluminum 5 looks much better after 10ish months than my 4s did after 3 months.

Well. It doesn't have to be glass but if Apple is not going to do about the scratch resistant on the phone itself, they are not going to earn my money.

Beside have you tried to look at your phone without case and screen protector? It's amazing (at least it is with my iPhone 4s).

 

[asthamapheo]

You need to learn more about GPUs because a 72-core GPU from nVidia doesn't automatically mean it's much faster than quad-core GPU from Imagination Technologies. They both are using two different types of architectures. The latter unifies their vector units and so on, when nVidia's Tegra don't. If you include the # of units in latter case, Apple's iPad 4 is actually using 128-core GPU but that's not accurate because of how it works.

Tegra 3 for an example is a 12-core GPU and it's not faster than a dual-core GPU from Apple's iPad 3. Tegra 4 will be on par or faster with the iPad 4's GPU, we don't know until we see more reviews.

The question then becomes, how much faster is iPad 6's GPU compared to iPad 5.

You can find out more here from Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6666/the-tegra-4-gpu-nvidia-claims-better-performance-than-ipad-4

Also, I made a mistake of saying Apple's going quad-core GPU, they've already done that in iPad 4. So, it is likely they'll up the speed there.

dude, i was talking about the iphone, not the ipad, and although more isn't always better but more cores do speed up the process.

talking about the quad-core GPU chip from imagination technologies and the 72-core GPU chip from NVIDIA, we still dont have any accurate and reliable numbers to determine which one is better.

 

[MikhailT]

dude, i was talking about the iphone, not the ipad, and although more isn't always better but more cores do speed up the process.

talking about the quad-core GPU chip from imagination technologies and the 72-core GPU chip from NVIDIA, we still dont have any accurate and reliable numbers to determine which one is better.

They're the same GPUs in the smartphones as well, they're just running with less cores and at lower speeds.

For iPhone 5, instead of the more powerful 128-core system in iPad 4, they're running a 3-core version that includes a 48-core system. A quad-core version of the same chip would be 60-core one.

 

[asthamapheo]

They're the same GPUs in the smartphones as well, they're just running with less cores and at lower speeds.

For iPhone 5, instead of the more powerful 128-core system in iPad 4, they're running a 3-core version that includes a 48-core system. A quad-core version of the same chip would be 60-core one.

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why don't we just wait 2 months and see for ourselves which device will be better?