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Does your 2014-built phone have the scan lines?

  • Yes

    Votes: 15 40.5%
  • No

    Votes: 22 59.5%

  • Total voters
    37
Flickering could, but we are not speaking about flickering here.
Judging by your photos I don't know what are we speaking about, to be honest, and I'm not trolling, just asking ....

I can't see anything wrong in the photo of your display, and surely nothing that could cause migraines (but it's hard to judge by a still image or even by a video).

By the way to look at the icons with the same level of details you showed in your photos, you have to keep the iPhone at about 5-6 cm from your eyes, and THAT could definitely cause migraines ....

Of course the further you use the phone from your face the less the lines appear, however in normal use at normal distance they do show on certain colours such as dark greys and blues when you shift your focus around the screen.

I wouldn't have been that bothered but my wife's 5s is the exact same as my 4 and 4s before it. I suspect it's simply down to a different panel manufacturer being used although we have no means to prove this without opening the devices and were not going to do that.

At the end of the day I know what I'm seeing on my phone and not seeing on my wife's and have used enough retina display enabled devices (including my iPad 3 and now iPad 4) to notice subtle differences. The lines are also, for some reason, more visible in lower light conditions such as the bedroom.

If your iPhone doesn't have them then I think that's fantastic, I really do. I'd love a screen without one but will make do with what I have.

This "issue" is far more common than I think you allow yourself to realise.

And regarding Migraines, well I don't need told what does and doesn't trigger them, especially by someone online. I've had them since age 19 and am now 34. I've had symptoms ranging from one sided thumping headache to aura to one sided paralysis and been for CT scans to rule out strokes and other causes. All Migraines. So I'll kindly ask you to refrain from telling me what can and cannot cause them, thanks.

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Agree with you.
There could be defective units for sure, but he is speaking about a major issue that could affect almost all the devices, or a great percentage of them (he already tested 5 units with the same defect).

But what puzzled me is the photo he posted: I can't see anything wrong there, and surely there is no way I can look at my iPhone's screen at such a close distance !

On iPhone pinch and zoom on the grey head/shoulders on the contacts icon. On iPad or desktop it's clearer obviously. It's not a difference of the camera focus, the vertical lines through the first image are what intrude on grey and blue solid images on the screen.

The point is not that you need to get so close to see them, I only show them that close to make sure people CAN see them and see what I'm talking about. Trust me, they appear in normal use.

It's not a defect, too many do it for it be one. It's simply a different kind of panel I will need to get used to.
 
I'm not discussing about your illness ... I'm discussing about scan lines I can't see in your photo and I never seen on any iPhone before ....

For sure there are different type of panels in the current iPhone production line, but I don't know if there is a correlation with the lines you are speaking about.
 
I'm not discussing about your illness ... I'm discussing about scan lines I can't see in your photo and I never seen on any iPhone before ....

For sure there are different type of panels in the current iPhone production line, but I don't know if there is a correlation with the lines you are speaking about.

The lines are clearly visible on the first photo on the contacts app, as stated in the previous post. On your iPhone you'll need to zoom in on the image but on iPad or desktop the image is larger obviously.

You have previous for denial and belittling regarding these kind of topics and, as I stated before, I've no desire to get into the same tit for tat nonsense the other thread descended into due, in no small part, to your down talking and contribution.

The lines are there, if you don't see them on a photo that clearly illustrates them then that's fine. Leave the thread and cease with the holier than thou attitude.
 
I can't see the scan lines on my iPhone. The contacts icon looks clean except for the grease marks from my fingerprints on the screen. They may be on my iPad, but I don't care

There may well be an issue but I would have noticed due to the sensitivity of my eyes.
 
Got a Week 52 December And screen looks okay, Device is Dent Free and Scratch Free, see vertical lines on top but nothing major, could be worse!
 
The lines are clearly visible on the first photo on the contacts app, as stated in the previous post. On your iPhone you'll need to zoom in on the image but on iPad or desktop the image is larger obviously.

You have previous for denial and belittling regarding these kind of topics and, as I stated before, I've no desire to get into the same tit for tat nonsense the other thread descended into due, in no small part, to your down talking and contribution.

The lines are there, if you don't see them on a photo that clearly illustrates them then that's fine. Leave the thread and cease with the holier than thou attitude.

I agree it looks like a printer running out of ink
 
The lines are clearly visible on the first photo on the contacts app, as stated in the previous post. On your iPhone you'll need to zoom in on the image but on iPad or desktop the image is larger obviously.

You have previous for denial and belittling regarding these kind of topics and, as I stated before, I've no desire to get into the same tit for tat nonsense the other thread descended into due, in no small part, to your down talking and contribution.

The lines are there, if you don't see them on a photo that clearly illustrates them then that's fine. Leave the thread and cease with the holier than thou attitude.

What kind of "contribution" do you expect ?
Just people saying "yes there are scan lines on most of the iPhones on the market" ?
Are you basically saying that you don't want a different opinion in your thread (like the other dude reporting me for trolling over there :rolleyes:) ?
Well this is not the base for a DISCUSSION FORUM.
I think, and it is MY OPINION, and I'm entitled to have one, that there is no scan lines on iPhone display. A defective unit is something you can find, they are producing millions unit, but I can't see anything wrong in the image you posted, and this is my opinion.
If you are looking for a place where you can complain about Apple without anyone saying "I don't agree", just compile the support feedback, open a case and speak with them, like I think you already did.
If you post on a public forum, well you can expect people who don't agree with you.

By the way, like I said before I'm sure you can find iPhones with flickering problem (is a typical defect in LCD production), I just can't see any defect in those photos (but a photo isn't the best way to judge). And I'm quite sure that if you take a well focused photo of the display with a good zoom you could see "lines" in almost every screen.
 
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I have no scan lines, but then again, I also am not taking a close up image of my phone and blowing it up (like people are doing in the pics).
 
What kind of "contribution" do you expect ?
Just people saying "yes there are scan lines on most of the iPhones on the market" ?
Are you basically saying that you don't want a different opinion in your thread (like the other dude reporting me for trolling over there :rolleyes:) ?
Well this is not the base for a DISCUSSION FORUM.
I think, and it is MY OPINION, and I'm entitled to have one, that there is no scan lines on iPhone display. A defective unit is something you can find, they are producing millions unit, but I can't see anything wrong in the image you posted, and this is my opinion.
If you are looking for a place where you can complain about Apple without anyone saying "I don't agree", just compile the support feedback, open a case and speak with them, like I think you already did.
If you post on a public forum, well you can expect people who don't agree with you.

By the way, like I said before I'm sure you can find iPhones with flickering problem (is a typical defect in LCD production), I just can't see any defect in those photos (but a photo isn't the best way to judge). And I'm quite sure that if you take a well focused photo of the display with a good zoom you could see "lines" in almost every screen.

The vertical lines are visible in the first photo of the two I posted. I have told you where to look and what to do if viewing on an iPhone.

It's nothing to do with people having a different view, it's your continued insistence on beating people into submission and accepting your point of view.

Reality check pal, no one talks down to me or belittles me, especially on an Internet forum.

Now get lost, you're testing my patience.
 
The vertical lines are visible in the first photo of the two I posted. I have told you where to look and what to do if viewing on an iPhone.

It's nothing to do with people having a different view, it's your continued insistence on beating people into submission and accepting your point of view.

Reality check pal, no one talks down to me or belittles me, especially on an Internet forum.

Now get lost, you're testing my patience.

My opinion is MY opinion and I don't care if you accept it or not. I didn't beat anyone. I'm expressing a civil opinion.
I'm just defending my right to have an opinion and don't just say "yes you are right the display is defective", if I don't think so.
On that specific still image I can't see anything wrong, just two differently focused image, sorry.
 
My opinion is MY opinion and I don't care if you accept it or not. I didn't beat anyone. I'm expressing a civil opinion.
I'm just defending my right to have an opinion and don't just say "yes you are right the display is defective", if I don't think so.
On that specific still image I can't see anything wrong, just two differently focused image, sorry.
https://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=370251&d=1350534694

open that image, and bring up control center. If your phone starts flickering, you have scan lines. Id say 90% of 5S I've seen have scan lines, including every 5S display model @ apple store.
 
The image itself has a pattern, which displays normally. Swipe up on the control center and the control center pops up without flicker, landscape and portrait.

Yeah open it, then bring up control center. The part of the screen that shows the image will flicker like a probe light if you have scan lines. the control center itself won't flicker
 
The image itself has a pattern, which displays normally. Swipe up on the control center and the control center pops up without flicker, landscape and portrait.

I can see the lines people are referring to without the test pattern. Its pretty obvious on any mid range color or shade of grey.
 
https://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=370251&d=1350534694

open that image, and bring up control center. If your phone starts flickering, you have scan lines. Id say 90% of 5S I've seen have scan lines, including every 5S display model @ apple store.

Scan lines have nothing to do with that kind of test pages ...
Btw nothing is flickering on my iPhone nor in my brother's.

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Yeah open it, then bring up control center. The part of the screen that shows the image will flicker like a probe light if you have scan lines. the control center itself won't flicker

I did ... With no flickering at all.
 
What are you talking about. If your phone has scan lines then that image will flicker. Period. There's been threads with a lot of pages about it too.

I have 2 iphone 5s here.
One has scan lines one doesn't. With that image opened. One phone flickers like crazy. One doesn't. Care to explain why?

Good day.
 
What are you talking about. If your phone has scan lines then that image will flicker. Period. There's been threads with a lot of pages about it too.

I have 2 iphone 5s here.
One has scan lines one doesn't. With that image opened. One phone flickers like crazy. One doesn't. Care to explain why?

Good day.

I'd like to know also.
 
If I may make a suggestion... Rather than argue whether this problem exists or not, just take a look on youtube to check out what a defective unit looks like.

I had no idea what to really expect until I looked it up myself. Some of the videos show a WAYY larger problem than I felt there was just based on the screenshots in this thread. Yes, I would definitely be annoyed by something like this. When reading someone say they went back to their 5 I thought to myself that was absurd. Nope! I would go back to my 5 too if it was my only option, assuming my issues were as severe as some that I saw.

Bottom line is, if your phone is unaffected, awesome! You got a flawless unit. Those that do not have a flawless unit would like to figure out if there is a correlation between production date and this defect. Let's please allow that to happen.
 
If I may make a suggestion... Rather than argue whether this problem exists or not, just take a look on youtube to check out what a defective unit looks like.

I had no idea what to really expect until I looked it up myself. Some of the videos show a WAYY larger problem than I felt there was just based on the screenshots in this thread. Yes, I would definitely be annoyed by something like this. When reading someone say they went back to their 5 I thought to myself that was absurd. Nope! I would go back to my 5 too if it was my only option, assuming my issues were as severe as some that I saw.

Bottom line is, if your phone is unaffected, awesome! You got a flawless unit. Those that do not have a flawless unit would like to figure out if there is a correlation between production date and this defect. Let's please allow that to happen.

I don't think YouTube is the best way to see the problem, since the flickering could be caused by the movie taken ...
The only way to judge is to see it with your eyes, and I still have to see one.

We are not discussing about the problem existing or not.
Surely there are defective units, like for any model from any manufacturer.
We are arguing about the concept that "almost every iPhone 5S has flickering" that someone is passing through here: that's just plain false.

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What are you talking about. If your phone has scan lines then that image will flicker. Period. There's been threads with a lot of pages about it too.

I have 2 iphone 5s here.
One has scan lines one doesn't. With that image opened. One phone flickers like crazy. One doesn't. Care to explain why?

Good day.

The OP is speaking about "scan lines" that someone can see also on a static image, you are reporting a test page to see flickering on a screen (something isn't possible to see in a static image, because a static photo just doesn't flickers).
Two different issues in my opinion.
 
In the attached photos, the close up of op phone is closer than his wife's. Could angle have something to do with it?

So, you can notice the scan lines with your naked eye? Can see how that would be annoying.

My advice would be to wait for the 6. Sell the 5s and upgrade. Hopefully you'll have better luck.
 
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