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If your phone gets stolen fingerprints images are sent to the police. I don't understand why camera frames cannot also be taken
 
It will happen, there is no way Apple will release the 5C at a much cheaper price and have the 5S with the same screen size, the 5C replaces the 5S and the big surprise will be the 6 in September. These rumors of $100 cheaper for the 5C won't satisfy China Mobile, they need a much lower price point like $299 for a 3.5" screen and maybe $349 for a 4" screen, maybe no retina. The 5S with just internal upgrades and a finger sensor will send the stock price down. Some people are moving away from Apple to Samsung Galaxy due to the larger screen size. They need the larger screen on the 6 and makes no sense to have a 5C and 5S with the same screen size, retina or not. Most people will just by the 5C and it will eat into their gross margins. I bet on a 4.8 IGZO screen from Sharp given they already bailed Sharp out recently. Apple will never make a TV look at what happened with the Japanese Inc. Companies Sony sold off their business as well as Toshiba, they can't compete with the Koreans and Samsung. Apple invested in Sharp for the IGZO technology with a better screen and uses less battery power.
Totally agree. Apple can't afford to release 5S - last year iPhone 5 with slightly bumped up internals. That would be suicidal. We will definitely see iPhone 6 with edge to edge 4.8 inch screen this year.
 
Totally agree. Apple can't afford to release 5S - last year iPhone 5 with slightly bumped up internals. That would be suicidal. We will definitely see iPhone 6 with edge to edge 4.8 inch screen this year.

As much as some people, myself included, would like to see Apple offer an iPhone with a larger screen, I don't think it's going to happen this time around. None of the leaked shots point to it. I do think that the 5S, if that's what they call it, will have a fingerprint sensor, which Apple will bill as a breakthrough and hence more than "slightly bumped up internals."

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Who says the fingerprint sensor will be on the front of the handset? Think about how you hold your iPhone. There may be a portion on the rear of the handset with a fingerprint sensor on it. Just a thought.

No way. You wouldn't be able to see where to place your finger to scan and cases would all have to be re-designed to accommodate it.
 
I see that Tim Cook is taking down the customer's defence that Jobs fought for, were any of you aware that the NSA and other govs only got open backdoor access to your details in the beginning of 2012, after Job's death and Tim Cook properly getting his feet under the table.

Here we have a voluntary fingerprint scanner! Gosh this'll be sooooooo useful

Cheers Tim

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I see everyone is still desperately clinging onto the Larger screen hope in the Apple iPhone camp... unlike some sensible people who jumped ship ages ago when they realised it wasn't going to happen.

As with iOS7? Well I have it on my test devices and it merely catches up with the basic android phone, except STILL without being able to add an attachment to an email chain... crappy really

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Totally agree. Apple can't afford to release 5S - last year iPhone 5 with slightly bumped up internals. That would be suicidal. We will definitely see iPhone 6 with edge to edge 4.8 inch screen this year.

Well Apple does seem to be self imploding at the moment... No innovation for at least 2 years, even then it was a stage demo of something pros have been waiting for for 4 years of so.

:-/

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I do, 100% of the time. I have what's called a screen protector and a case (Ballistic). The screen never touches the surface.
If something were to fall on your iPhone, would you rather it fall on your screen, or on the back side (or case side)? That is my logic.

Galaxy s3 owner here... Yep face down in meetings because it turns off all sound and vibrate... Oh, You mean the iPhone doesn't? plus won't in iOS7 (so far)?
 
The iPhone 5C will most likely have the same internals as your 5 with an uglier form factor.

I know, but the plastic means it won't get scratched as easily and I hate cases with a passion. The whole ugly thing is subjective. I actually think it's beautiful.
 
Funny how their TruePrint logo reminds me of the old nVIDIA logo. Similar colors, too.

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Yup, pretty quiet on the iPhone 5s front. I don't think it's going to much of a bump. Maybe faster A7 chip and a wider lens (f2.0) with iOS6.x (Unless iOS7 makes it out in time)

I think Apple really need to look at the iPhone 6 as their next savior now. I would like to see it come out with a A8 Cortex chip with a 12 or 13 megapixel camera with a lens f.stop at either 1.8 or 2.0.

They need to dump that ugly back they introduced on the iPhone 5 and maybe look at uniforming the whole range with a similar back to the iPads. The screen size can easily be bumped up to 4.5 or 4.7 inches by reducing the top and bottom bevels, as well as shaving a few mm from the sides. It wouldn't need to go up in height. Maybe just a little wider.

The main thing holding back a larger screen is the Home Button. It takes up so much space on the front that Apple tries to balance the top and bottom bevels to be the same height. Imagine making them thinner. It makes a larger screen become more of a reality.
 
I don't understand the big crying over the convex home button sensor. If Apple implements it, I am pretty sure that all the 'concerns' that you have (accidental trigger,etc) must have already been considered and addressed.
 
I often wonder... what does Apple know about screen size that Samsung doesn't?

Or... what does Samsung know that Apple doesn't?

Both companies sell some of the best phones in the industry... so how can they be polar opposites on the topic of screen-size and one-handedness?

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And it's not just Samsung... every manufacturer has had phones larger than 4" for a few years.

When Apple shifted to a 4" screen remember how older apps had black bars? This will probably happen again. Black bars on top or bottom or the sides. I don't know why this is the case. Imagine a PC app being designed for only one resolution.
 
Fingerprint scanner? I don't want to pay for this.
12Mp camera? Not falling for that either.

Gimme LTE-A, 802.11ac, A7, better battery life, ...

So aside from the A7 processor, your advice to Apple is to focus on delivering generic "spec" features that Samsung and everyone else can easily copy? Oh, and I see you just registered on this forum last month. How's that Astroturfing gig working out for ya?

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No one seems to be considering the possibility that the "home button" won't be a button (clicky-clicky button, I mean) but will instead be a touch-sensitive sensor that doubles as a fingerprint sensor.

That would be the worst possible change I can imagine for the iPhone. A single, physical home button is a key reason why iOS is so easy to use for beginners (if you get lost, just go home), and for ergonomics (you can always feel your way to the home button and its functions without looking at the screen.

Dumbest. Idea. Ever.

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Maybe instead of convex, they shall make it flat just as what Jony likes?

1) iOS7's design is not "flat". It strips away window dressing like borders, bezels, reflections and drop shadows and turns up the dial on microinteractions and transition effects. The iOS7 interface is more three dimensional than its predecessors given its emphasis on separate z-axis layers for screen elements.

2) "Flat" design does not refer to eliminating physical affordances and interfaces. Look at any Dieter Rams-designed product and you'll see that they all feature big, friendly buttons and knobs.
 
WHAT? There is so much room for improvement for the battery. I'd love a 24 hour battery! And let's get a quad core processor! ENOUGH of this "it's good enough" attitude, that's why the iPhone is failing.

Join date: July 2013. Welcome Samsung Astroturfer.

iPhone is failing?

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I agree but my engineers at work both have iPhone and both really would like a larger screen for tech spec diagrams, blueprints, etc. For some it makes sense like these guys. But for most, the screen they have now is fine.

So yes, I still think 4.7" screens are dumb. But they can always make one for a sub-segment.

Remember that Apple's success has not resulted from saying "yes" to every product idea imaginable but from saying "no" to all the good ideas that didn't make sense for their overall vision.

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Or maybe because larger screen = larger screen.

It's better for reading websites/emails, gaming, watching movies, etc.


So by your logic since "larger" is "better" the ideal iPhone design would feature an 8" screen.
 
When I said "Failing", I mean't failing in quality and innovation.

You mean Apple should innovate more like Samsung's cheating to get higher benchmarks scores?

AnandTech Catches Samsung Cheating on Galaxy S4 Benchmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7187/looking-at-cpugpu-benchmark-optimizations-galaxy-s-4


And by "quality" you're referring to Samsung's continued use of cheap plastic on their ugly case designs versus Apple's industry leading engineering and use of highest quality materials?


SAMSUNG: "We Make Plastic Phones Because They're Cheap And Easy To Make"
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-samsung-makes-plastic-phones-2013-3
 
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Join date: July 2013. Welcome Samsung Astroturfer.

iPhone is failing?

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Remember that Apple's success has not resulted from saying "yes" to every product idea imaginable but from saying "no" to all the good ideas that didn't make sense for their overall vision.

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So by your logic since "larger" is "better" the ideal iPhone design would feature an 8" screen.

Your own picture destroys your argument. The 4s sold around 22 million while the 5 sold around 24. The s2 sold around 5, the s3 sold around 13, and the s4 sold around 20.

And that doesn't even account for the Htc One, nexus phones, etc. Apple is falling behind. While google came up with Ice Cream Sandwich, Jellybean, and is now coming out with key Lime Pie, all Apple can do is give a new coat of "My Little Pony' paint, also known as ios7.

And I dare you to call me a Samsung Astroturfer.
 
Your own picture destroys your argument. The 4s sold around 22 million while the 5 sold around 24. The s2 sold around 5, the s3 sold around 13, and the s4 sold around 20.

And that doesn't even account for the Htc One, nexus phones, etc. Apple is falling behind....

And I dare you to call me a Samsung Astroturfer.

Last time I checked, 22 and 24 million were higher than 5, 13, and 20 million. Also remember that the S4 is a 2013 model, while the iPhone 5 was introduced in 2012. The S4 should be compared to whatever model Apple releases this Fall.

And you cite the HTC One?

HTC Misses Estimates as One Smartphone Fails to Boost Sales
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...s-one-smartphone-fails-to-boost-sales-1-.html



WSJ: HTC Looks to Cheaper Phones As Loss Looms
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/07/30/htc-looks-to-cheaper-phones-as-loss-looms/



ComScore: Apple again ranks as top US smartphone vendor
http://www.macnn.com/articles/13/08...apple.microsoft.make.gains.in.platform.share/
 
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Last time I checked, 22 and 24 million were higher than 5, 13, and 20 million.

And you cite the HTC One?

HTC Misses Estimates as One Smartphone Fails to Boost Sales
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...s-one-smartphone-fails-to-boost-sales-1-.html



WSJ: HTC Looks to Cheaper Phones As Loss Looms
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/07/30/htc-looks-to-cheaper-phones-as-loss-looms/



ComScore: Apple again ranks as top US smartphone vendor
http://www.macnn.com/articles/13/08...apple.microsoft.make.gains.in.platform.share/

Well I'll respond to your link with this:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57596084-94/htc-one-sales-outpace-last-years-flagship-devices/

The sales fell off later on, but the sales of the One definitely fixed things from the year before. Not only that, but it was easily the best phone of the year.

What exactly will you use to defend when iPhone sales start going down? Because android is moving in that direction while Apple isn't producing much in the way of innovation.

And if you want to know, I am a fan of whatever product I feel is the best, and my wallet. I don't ra ra for any corporation like some people do..
 
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What has anybody's join date got to do with their opinion? Does it make you feel high and mighty that you joined an internet forum before them? :rolleyes:

No, it should be obvious that he just needs to call anybody who disagrees with him names, so that he can feel good cheerleading for Apple.
 
Finderprint scanner integrated into display. And get rid of that home button altogether.

stupid idea.

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What has anybody's join date got to do with their opinion? Does it make you feel high and mighty that you joined an internet forum before them? :rolleyes:

Join date alone = meaningless
Recent join date + exuberant anti Apple propaganda on an Apple forum = shill/astroturfer/sockpuppeting

Second Samsung scandal this week: PR firm caught astroturfing forums
http://pocketnow.com/2013/08/02/samsung-astroturfing
 
And that doesn't even account for the Htc One, nexus phones, etc. Apple is falling behind. While google came up with Ice Cream Sandwich, Jellybean, and is now coming out with key Lime Pie, all Apple can do is give a new coat of "My Little Pony' paint, also known as ios7.

And I dare you to call me a Samsung Astroturfer.

So what is Google going to offer me now? A Project Butter 2 (finally lag free?). How about finally fixing issues in Chrome? Fixing the audio stutter when rotating the display on a Nexus 7? For all the multitasking hoopla it stutters on a basic task.
 
So what is Google going to offer me now? A Project Butter 2 (finally lag free?). How about finally fixing issues in Chrome? Fixing the audio stutter when rotating the display on a Nexus 7? For all the multitasking hoopla it stutters on a basic task.

But everything is faster on ios due to the fact that it's simply a bunch of icons on a screen that scrolls. Android has a filesystem and widgets just to begin with!

iOS would simply run fast on any hardware, while Android needs at least decently beefy stuff (Which they still need to work on as far as optimization goes). Running iOS is basically like running DamnSmall Linux (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/), which can run on a 486DX with 16 megs ram!

Sure, there's something to be said about a completely bug free OS that runs fast. But ios has not changed much since I got my 3g, 4, and 4s, while google now has 1080p phones that basically function like portable computers.
 
But everything is faster on ios due to the fact that it's simply a bunch of icons on a screen that scrolls. Android has a filesystem and widgets just to begin with!

What does a filesystem have anything to do with this? You think that iOS doesn't have a filesystem? Oh boy...

iOS would simply run fast on any hardware, while Android needs at least decently beefy stuff (Which they still need to work on as far as optimization goes). Running iOS is basically like running DamnSmall Linux (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/), which can run on a 486DX with 16 megs ram!

Oh no it doesn't. Search for complaints here about iOS 6 on iPhone 4 or better yet iOS 4 on iPhone 3G.

Sure, there's something to be said about a completely bug free OS that runs fast. But ios has not changed much since I got my 3g, 4, and 4s, while google now has 1080p phones that basically function like portable computers.

I'm not asking for a completely bug free OS, but at least Google could fix some of the obvious bugs. Chrome on Android has been a turd for a long time. Given the option of including a better browser (Browser) Google instead chooses to include Chrome!
 
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