iPhone 5s Tops Sales Charts at Major U.S. Carriers as iPhone 5c and Galaxy S4 Battle for Second

[paul4339]

Well of course !
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The fact that the iPhone 5c is "battling" for 2nd place speaks to how lackluster sales are for the device.

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The first wave of buyers (first few weekends) will buy the flagship phone, the 5S, since that's the phone they've been waiting for.

I think 5C sales will (relatively) increase - especially when it reaches the point where retailers are lowering the price by $100... this will put it near the range of 0$ on a 2 year contract

So for all those people that have expiring 2-years contracts, and just want a smartphone, but don't want to pay any down payment, the 5C likely be a good choice.

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[dannyyankou]

And people thought the 5c was struggling, lololol

 

[giantfan1224]

The best sales also includes shipments of the 5C that are likely sitting on shelves and not solely the 5S.

Do you know for a fact what Apple considers a sale? My guess is if a significant portion of what they counted as "sold" is sitting on store shelves unsold somewhere, they would not have revised their quarterly guidance.

There seems to be some desperation in your post...like you want what you originally posted to be true.

 

[rdlink]

Agreed, the S4 is like 4+ months old and the 5S and 5C were just released. I can see the S4 beating the 5C at all carriers by christmas and possibly even beating the 5S on some carriers by that time. Apple should be in full blown crisis mode at this point. The iphone is by far their most important product and they need to react while they are still at the top to products gaining on them, if they wait until they become surpassed its a slippery slope. I don't think Cook has the instincts or attitude that Jobs did to upright the ship if it starts to go down. Also Jobs apparently had a pipeline of products in development so likely this roadmap is still part of what Jobs made, however while that may work for slower to evolve technologies like the Mac line when it comes to rapidly changing markets such as smartphones and tablets Jobs would have had the balls to cut off the roadmap and start over whereas I don't think Cook does

OMG what a bunch of tripe.

The 5S is outselling the S4 by a ton. A TON. And that is with limited availability. A check of every color, every size, every carrier shows no availability in Denver, which has 5 Apple stores in the metro area. If you walk by any carrier store they practically come out on the street and try to sell you a Galaxy.

 

[samcraig]

I think some people like to confuse availability with sales. One doesn't mean the other.

Meaning - just because the S4 has availability does not mean it's not or hasn't sold well. Units sold is all that matters. Not how many are produced

An over exaggeration - Apple could make 10 phones and sell out and there would be huge deman. Samsung could make 100 phones and have 50 left.

Both new Apple models are obviously selling extremely well. So's the S4. And so is the HTC Once.

The pissing contest is pathetic. Shouldn't people care more about having a phone that they love and works best for them vs the most popular or best selling phone.

Or is that just tooooooo crazy?

 

[irfaanfaki]

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
You are aware that the 5C is just a colored iPhone 5, yeah?? Ask ANY of your fellow cronies.... they've been paying MUCH better attention. That phone is OVER A YEAR OLD with fresh paint. Apple isn't trying to hide this....!!!! They are pricing it in line with how they ALWAYS have their year old phones.

Here's how your ridiculous post reads, minus your gross misunderstanding of reality:
radio- "duh, of course Apple's untested/unreviewed brand new (yet same as before) phone is selling better than S4.. the S4 has only had 4 months to prove how awesome & new it is, to make it to all channels, & to be extensively tested and reviewed. Look at how it's neck & neck with Apple's LAST YEAR tech phone, the 5C. everybody knows that pitting Apple's year old tech in a cheap new case vs the very finest/latest from Samsung is the FAIR way to compare! S4 for the win, derp, derp!"

You seem upset

 

[irfaanfaki]

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
You are aware that the 5C is just a colored iPhone 5, yeah?? Ask ANY of your fellow cronies.... they've been paying MUCH better attention. That phone is OVER A YEAR OLD with fresh paint. Apple isn't trying to hide this....!!!! They are pricing it in line with how they ALWAYS have their year old phones.

Here's how your ridiculous post reads, minus your gross misunderstanding of reality:
radio- "duh, of course Apple's untested/unreviewed brand new (yet same as before) phone is selling better than S4.. the S4 has only had 4 months to prove how awesome & new it is, to make it to all channels, & to be extensively tested and reviewed. Look at how it's neck & neck with Apple's LAST YEAR tech phone, the 5C. everybody knows that pitting Apple's year old tech in a cheap new case vs the very finest/latest from Samsung is the FAIR way to compare! S4 for the win, derp, derp!"

Apologies for last post directed at you. A friend got hold of my phone whilst I was handing in an assignment

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And here I am in South Africa expecting iPhone 5s in December or so #

 

[Chatter]

Agreed, the S4 is like 4+ months old and the 5S and 5C were just released. I can see the S4 beating the 5C at all carriers by christmas and possibly even beating the 5S on some carriers by that time. Apple should be in full blown crisis mode at this point. ..... whereas I don't think Cook does

Excellent points! Now what are you smoking? Is it legal stuff?

 

[Born Again]

The first wave of buyers (first few weekends) will buy the flagship phone, the 5S, since that's the phone they've been waiting for.

I think 5C sales will (relatively) increase - especially when it reaches the point where retailers are lowering the price by $100... this will put it near the range of 0$ on a 2 year contract

So for all those people that have expiring 2-years contracts, and just want a smartphone, but don't want to pay any down payment, the 5C likely be a good choice.

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Agreed (opens door)

 

[Chatter]

The 5C is currently in terminal mode; it's only downhill from here.

So the 5C is the best competitor to the S4 and thus you compare their sales? What would you consider a competitor to the 5S then?

 

[BC2009]

Well of course !

It's the new apple flag ship iPhone! Those other phones have been out for some time.

The fact that the iPhone 5c is "battling" for 2nd place speaks to how lackluster sales are for the device.


Btw I don't see a discount for the iPhone 5s - yet the iPhone 5c is already at 50% off

Steve would of never allowed for this

I have one thing to say to that.....

10 Days of Availability in September -- 1/3 of the entire month.

Lackluster?

 

[ppdix]

Size matters...

Samsungs are selling cause they are bigger, not better.
Apple will reign again when they realize that we want a bigger iPhone.
At least give us choices... iPhone 6 and iPhone 6XL

 

[jonnysods]

Embarrassing for Samsung.

 

[ApfelKuchen]

…Btw I don't see a discount for the iPhone 5s - yet the iPhone 5c is already at 50% off

Steve would of never allowed for this

The $50 discount off the $100 subsidized price is not a measure of unpopularity. The $50-off is just plain old retailer discounting, in order to attract customers who might go to the competition. This is Walmart vs. Best Buy, not Apple vs. Samsung.

Do retailers deep discount to sell slow-moving inventory? Yes. But, except in the case of perishable foodstuffs, they don't do that in the first week or two of availability, they do it much farther down the road.

No, in this stage of the product cycle, it's to take advantage of consumer interest in the newest new thing. The manufacturer and carriers are promoting the heck out of a product, the retailer is trying to leverage that to its own advantage.

 

[BC2009]

OMG what a bunch of tripe.

The 5S is outselling the S4 by a ton. A TON. And that is with limited availability. A check of every color, every size, every carrier shows no availability in Denver, which has 5 Apple stores in the metro area. If you walk by any carrier store they practically come out on the street and try to sell you a Galaxy.

Don't forget that S4 launched in like 68 countries and took 30 days to hit 10 million sales. iPhone 5s and 5c have yet to launch in all countries. Galaxy sales have always trailed the current and the previous iPhone except in the Galaxy launch month when it beats the 18-month-old iPhone model. In Q1, the iPhone 4S was the second-best selling smartphone worldwide with iPhone 5 being #1. The Galaxy S3 was third at 8% share and the Galaxy Note tends to sell about 1/4 to 1/3 of the Galaxy S phone (so maybe 10% total share for the Galaxy flagship phones with Apple's top-two iPhone models taking 20%).

Apple sells about twice as many iPhones than Samsung has sells flagship Galaxy phones. What is worse for Samsung is the Android competition has stiffened on them and the S4 sales supposedly fell of a cliff after the initial launch as many Android users anticipated phones from Motorola and HTC as well as those who were anticipating the next iPhone.

What is going to be interesting is the HUGE spike you are going to see in iPhone 5c sales in December. The iPhone 5c will be the Christmas gift to get for teens in the USA this year. Proportion of 5c should outstrip 5s during the month of December in the USA for that reason. The ratio of parents to kids (considering single parents) is probably close to 3:5. Additionally, parents will buy the 5s for themselves now while waiting until December to buy the 5c for their kids. In January, things will revert to 5s being the clear leader again.

 

[ppdix]

5c is a transitional phone...

For people with an existing iPhone 5, the choice is clear, 5s. The 5c would be a downgrade from a 5.
If u have a 4 or 4s, 5c is the best choice. Specially cause the 5s is not a HUGE upgrade. Same screen size and same look as last year.
Some people were hoping for more.
In my case, I upgraded to a 5s from a 5 because I am a fan, but I am disappointed and still feel it sucks to have to wait another year for (hopefully) a bigger and really better iPhone 6.
For good or bad, and although I hate it, iOS7 does refresh the iPhone and makes you feel you got something totally new.
I know a lot of 5 owners that will wait until next year. Some could care less about the finger print sensor and the camera.
I, turned my touch id off after the gimmick wore off..

 

[Born Again]

The $50 discount off the $100 subsidized price is not a measure of unpopularity. The $50-off is just plain old retailer discounting, in order to attract customers who might go to the competition. This is Walmart vs. Best Buy, not Apple vs. Samsung.

Do retailers deep discount to sell slow-moving inventory? Yes. But, except in the case of perishable foodstuffs, they don't do that in the first week or two of availability, they do it much farther down the road.

No, in this stage of the product cycle, it's to take advantage of consumer interest in the newest new thing. The manufacturer and carriers are promoting the heck out of a product, the retailer is trying to leverage that to its own advantage.

So why no discount for the iPhone 5S?

 

[BaldiMac]

So why no discount for the iPhone 5S?

Because Walmart and Best Buy know their customers? They're going to get a lot more people into their store with a $50 iPhone that a $150 iPhone.

And...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/12/walmart-iphone-5s-5c-discount_n_3914513.html

That's before they even went on sale.

 

[ppdix]

Then, there is this problem...

Android tops iOS because all these cheap Chinese clones...

http://www.ebuyfromchina.com/4-android-4-2-2-mtk6515-1ghz-unlocked-single-micro-sim-quad-band-at-t-wifi-multi-touch-capacitive-smartphone-f5c-white-15237.html

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So why no discount for the iPhone 5S?

Why would anyone discount a phone that is outselling everyone else? Some Bozo paid $10,000 for a 16GB gold iPhone 5s on ebay last week...
Demand is high, prices will stay up..

 

[MrXiro]

Steve would of never allowed for this

You don't speak for the Steves.

 

[Born Again]

Android tops iOS because all these cheap Chinese clones...

http://www.ebuyfromchina.com/4-android-4-2-2-mtk6515-1ghz-unlocked-single-micro-sim-quad-band-at-t-wifi-multi-touch-capacitive-smartphone-f5c-white-15237.html

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Why would anyone discount a phone that is outselling everyone else? Some Bozo paid $10,000 for a 16GB gold iPhone 5s on ebay last week...
Demand is high, prices will stay up..

Exactly! So with that logic then the iPhone 5C isn't in high demand hence the price discounts

 

[Born Again]

Shut up. You don't speak for the Steves.

You mean jobs'

(Slams the door in your face)

 

[MrXiro]

So why no discount for the iPhone 5S?

Why discount an item that's has shortages? The 5c models were made in abundance. You weren't even allowed to pre-order the 5S. So why give it a discount if you can't keep up with demand?

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For people with an existing iPhone 5, the choice is clear, 5s. The 5c would be a downgrade from a 5.
If u have a 4 or 4s, 5c is the best choice. Specially cause the 5s is not a HUGE upgrade. Same screen size and same look as last year.
Some people were hoping for more.
In my case, I upgraded to a 5s from a 5 because I am a fan, but I am disappointed and still feel it sucks to have to wait another year for (hopefully) a bigger and really better iPhone 6.
For good or bad, and although I hate it, iOS7 does refresh the iPhone and makes you feel you got something totally new.
I know a lot of 5 owners that will wait until next year. Some could care less about the finger print sensor and the camera.
I, turned my touch id off after the gimmick wore off..

5c is an upgrade. Longer battery life and better front facing camera.

Your aesthetic opinion does not make it a downgrade. If you want to say it's a "side grade" that might even be true... but it in no way is a downgrade from the iPhone 5. I actually prefer the plastic back over the "chips when you look at it cross-eyed" chamferred edge of the 5 models... but I'm not a big fan of the colors. White would be the only way to go for me. But I want a white screen too.

FYI I'm still on my black/slate iPhone 5. Skipping this year because of a few personal factors.

 

[Anonymous Freak]

I think he/she is referring to the subsidized price. $50 off $100 would be 50%.

But that's not Apple offering it at 50% off. That's "Apple resellers offering it at 50% off the subsidized price." Which is still only 10% off of the actual price. Nobody knows for certain what the carriers pay for iPhones (well, nobody that can say publicly, anyway,) so nobody knows how much of a discount this is for them. They might still be making a profit on them, or they might be taking a slight loss. But either way, Apple still gets their money.

 

[Arndroid]

For those of you celebrating the success of the 5C, keep it up. The 5C's relative value in the mobile marketplace can only go down from here, and it's not the "hot cakes" some MR posts expected it to be, with its melt-in-your-mouth-not-in-your-hand colorful plastic shell.

S4 is doing well because the average consumer doesn't know anything about tech. The average consumer (AC) wants a big screen with lots of bells and whistles, and the S4 delivers. It feels "apologetically" plastic when I've tried one, and it's UI is more complicated, but I've watched people (in HK especially) go crazy for the screen size. I've seen shoppers in the US toy with the iPhone and then go for the S4 because of it's internals (which we know represent more of the S4's inefficiency than efficiency).

The 5C is currently in terminal mode; it's only downhill from here.

What if the 5c finishes 2013 with more sales than the S4?