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5s was no big upgrade. The s upgrades to me never offer anything to new. I think the iPhone 6 is worth it. In coming from a 5 though. Plus 6 is better in battery life. The plus more but still
 
No brainer...sold my 5s for more than my upgrade cost of the 6. Using an old 4s for this week. The 6 is a little bigger, thinner, we will see about performance for the stuff I do when I get it. Been happy with 5s, looking forward to 6.
 
You don't agree with facts?

iPhone 5 -> 5S was more LTE Bands (only matters for people who travel), faster processor (made no different in terms of real world performance), and TouchID (didn't work for more than 2 days before 7.1)

5S -> 6 is redesigned Style, Larger Screen, NFC, 802.11ac and if you go with a 6+ then battery life, 1080p and OIS.

5S was almost no upgrade whereas the 6 is the real deal, next generation iPhone.

Emmm 5 > 5S +coprocessor M7, dual LED, 64 bits. Talking about processor performance it does indeed shown improvements in real life. And Touch ID for me is working fine for 10 months. If your fingers are slightly wet/sweaty then it may doesn't work.
 
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Emmm 5 > 5S +coprocessor M7, dual LED, 64 bits. Talking about processor performance it does indeed shown improvements in real life. And Touch ID for me is working fine for 10 months. If your fingers are slightly wet/sweaty then it may doesn't work.

I forgot about dual LED flash.

I still got both my 5 and new 5S, notice 0 difference in performance. FYI the 64 bits actually hurts the performance because of additional overhead/the low RAM but it architecture changes offset that decrease. and TouchID only worked for about 1-2 days MAX before going all crazy and forcing me to rescan my finger before the 7.1 and 7.1.2 updates.

64 bits really wont matter until the ram is larger than 4GB.
 
Touch ID, a bigger screen and a better camera, no real change in performance. The i5 is no slower in real world tasks than the 5S, it just benchmarks slower.

I disagree, my cousins 5S is much snappier than my 5 ever since upgrading to IOS 7. Essentially I have to turn off the transparency to match the fluidity of a 5S with transparency on.
 
You don't agree with facts?

iPhone 5 -> 5S was more LTE Bands (only matters for people who travel), faster processor (made no different in terms of real world performance), and TouchID (didn't work for more than 2 days before 7.1)

5S -> 6 is redesigned Style, Larger Screen, NFC, 802.11ac and if you go with a 6+ then battery life, 1080p and OIS.

5S was almost no upgrade whereas the 6 is the real deal, next generation iPhone.

That's your opinion and this is mine. 5s to six is a lesser upgrade than 5 to 5s. You forgot to mention a bevy of hardware upgrades including lte bands, camera, wifi chip, m7, a7 64 bit and last but not least Touch ID, which is the single biggest security useability feature ever. And for the record, no issues with Touch ID since the beginning.
 
I forgot about dual LED flash.

I still got both my 5 and new 5S, notice 0 difference in performance. FYI the 64 bits actually hurts the performance because of additional overhead/the low RAM but it architecture changes offset that decrease. and TouchID only worked for about 1-2 days MAX before going all crazy and forcing me to rescan my finger before the 7.1 and 7.1.2 updates.

64 bits really wont matter until the ram is larger than 4GB.

Try rendering videos with iMoves or other heavy usage and you will notice difference. If you thought that 64bit has only one advantage that 4GB RAM and more could be practically used, then your IT level- amateur, nothing personal.

If iPhone 6 would have OIS then it is ok, would upgrade from 5S. However too minimal changes are done for iPhone 6 in my view because NFC is usable only for Apple pay which only applies for USA, WiFi ac chip won't be dealbreaker because the majority has 100mb/s internet. Even battery doesn't have any big improvements. Not talking about 6 plus because I can't imagine who will use that hybrid. And damn only 1GB RAM?
 
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I might actually go with the 5S now. $100 discount, I much prefer the design, no difference in PPI, incremental processor and camera upgrades.
 
Try rendering videos with iMoves or other heavy usage and you will notice difference. If you thought that 64bit has only one advantage that 4GB RAM and more could be practically used, then your IT level- amateur, nothing personal.

If iPhone 6 would have OIS then it is ok, would upgrade from 5S. However too minimal changes are done for iPhone 6 in my view because NFC is usable only for Apple pay which only applies for USA, WiFi ac chip won't be dealbreaker because the majority has 100mb/s internet. Even battery doesn't have any big improvements. Not talking about 6 plus because I can't imagine who will use that hybrid. And damn only 1GB RAM?

Judging cell phone based on rendering time is very niche.
 
It's an iPhone 5S with a bigger screen and a different casing. Sure the specs are up a little bit but it's nothing you would ever notice whilst using the phone. The 5S has a much faster processor than the iPhone 5 and yet both phones are exactly the same in use. The i5 is no slower than the 5S. The jump in processor speed from the 5S to the i6 is MUCH smaller, so don't worry about it. At least the 5S got a better camera and Touch ID over the iPhone 5, the i6 just gets a bigger screen when all is said and done.

iPhone 5 IS slower than the iPhone 5s.

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5S user here.

5S was the worst upgrade ever. TouchID was the only 'usable' feature and that didn't work until halfway through year when 7.1 was released.

6 is a much better upgrade. Redesigned Style, Larger Screen, NFC, and if you go with a 6+ then battery life, 1080p and OIS.

In short only a chump would stay with the 5S over a 6.

Touch ID works flawlessly for me on iOS 7.0.4

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You don't agree with facts?

iPhone 5 -> 5S was more LTE Bands (only matters for people who travel), faster processor (made no different in terms of real world performance), and TouchID (didn't work for more than 2 days before 7.1)

5S -> 6 is redesigned Style, Larger Screen, NFC, 802.11ac and if you go with a 6+ then battery life, 1080p and OIS.

5S was almost no upgrade whereas the 6 is the real deal, next generation iPhone.

I don't know why some say there is no real world performance between the 5 and 5s when there is
 
The iPhone 6 has the next generation - LTE - Advance. It quite faster then LTE!

You will not find a LTE model other the an Apple with a 4" or smaller display! All the rest are Android devices and the mid-tier models start at 4.5" High end is 4.7". Apple is the only one that has a 4" size screen in the high end category!
 
If you are at the iPhone 5, then sure go to the 6.

Optimum screen size is the 5/5s. Going bigger, might as well jump to the 6 Plus. No sense going half way this time around.

Next year, makes better sense to go to the 4.7 inch with an A9 processor, from the 5s.

The reviewer video, referenced above... It seems the 6 has escaped the farm yard, and these "stolen" units are popping up here and there. Some are shells, while this was the first fully functioning unit with beta iOS.

You aren't seeing 6 Plus reviews out there. It seems Apple has put all their secrecy on the 6 Plus, limiting public exposure. I bet the factories have guards controlling that model.

LoL - The reviewer has very good English... Minimal accent. I thought he had a speech impediment, and from that he sounded Chinese. Can't tell the printed language, seems like simplified Chinese, but could be something else. Didn't see enough of it. I can typically tell Chinese, Korean and Japanese, but not this time.
 
I had the 4S in 2011 and did not feel the need to upgrade to 5, although it was pretty tempting. In India, we pay full price for the phones, no carrier subsidies. I moved to iPhone 5 two days before January 2013 aka last week of December 2012 due to my father's Nokia finally giving way.

My 4S went to him and I got a 5. Now, I wonder, where will Apple go forward.. every year, they implement something in the software that I would want, and something in the hardware that they tie it to.

In India, nothing on the iPhone 6 will work for a long time to come - no VoLTE/ Apple Pay, etc. Only thing going is the camera improvement and screen size.

I am perfectly happy with my iPhone 5, and the one reason I am considering an upgrade is that I want to stick to this 4inch size, so thinking of getting an iPhone 5S because the prices also have dropped. The size is perfect for me and it covers the basics better than the iPhone 5 - the 64bit processor along with M7 and Touch ID means that the iOS software support should also seriously outlast iPhone 5. It should not get outdated too soon, like the iPhone 4S still runs everything that iOS 8 offers, apart from Health (which I am not concerned with) and Touch ID (on 5s, which is a luxury that I may like). So, the 4S seems to be standing good for 3 years of software improvements. What about iPhone 5 vs iPhone 5s?

Also, next year they will do something that I may want badly. Or next to next year at best. iPhone 6 resolution is the way forward. In 2 years time tops, iPhone 5/5s resolution would become not supported by apps, I wonder. So, for that, I cannot really get myself to spend on a 5s even.

I may want to try iPhone 6, but I am not at all happy with the bump in screen size. This is really insane. A phone is supposed to be in your pocket. A tablet when you are reading a lot. A computer when you are working. Why the f* would you want to mix all of the devices and try to cram them into your phone, and then demand larger screen sizes that are totally unergonomic? How are we supposed to put those huge devices in our hands and pockets! How are we supposed to use them one-handed? Aren't that what phones were supposed to be?

iPhone 4S was perfect for one-handed navigation and iPhone 5 4inch stretches the limit to its maximum for me. I never forget that the moment I want a bigger screen, I would look at a tablet and a computer.

So, my dilemma. .. get a 5s to prevent upgrading to a larger screen for a year or two (who knows what apple will release in terms of software that will only be compatible with the new phones or 6) or see a 6 and then decide, or just stick with my 5 for iOS 9 at least and see?

Oh, and the trigger point of all this is that I was thinking of using the iPhone 4S in my car audio system as that is going to be easier for me to use with the head unit I just bought (Kenwood KIV-BT901). Plus, it could serve as my backup or secondary phone. So, my 5 would go to father but I do not want a 6 for its size issues so..the dilemma. :p
 
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I disagree, my cousins 5S is much snappier than my 5 ever since upgrading to IOS 7. Essentially I have to turn off the transparency to match the fluidity of a 5S with transparency on.

You must have a bad install on your i5 because there is zero difference in performance when navigating menus, opening apps and browsing the web.
 
If you don't want a larger screen, then there's really not much to upgrade to. iPhone 5S is still plenty fast with a great camera and build. If Apple Pay somehow takes off in the next year then there's something, but I expect the rollout to be slow and steady. I'm coming from an iPhone 5, and have been dying for a bigger screen, so it's pretty worth it to me.
 
Read some of the other threads. Apart from the bigger screen, the i6 is really no different to the 5S. No faster in real world use, the camera hasn't had any kind of real upgrade and the RAM is the same...
If you don't want a bigger screen, or aren't prepared to pay so much money to get that and that only, then the better looking 5S is a keeper.

You really want the 6, don't you...;)
 
You really want the 6, don't you...;)

I would like an iPhone with a bigger screen for sure. However, there will be close to zero performance differential in real world use compared to the 5S, the camera is only marginally better, the battery marginally better, and Apple Pay is a 'meh' feature. IF the RAM is increased then the bigger screen and RAM will make the iPhone 6 a decent upgrade but if the RAM stays at 1GB then I'm afraid that you are really only getting a bigger screen and a protruding camera.
 
I still got both my 5 and new 5S, notice 0 difference in performance.

Judging cell phone based on rendering time is very niche.

The fact remains that Apple themselves say the iPhone 6 processor is a mere 25% faster than the 5S whereas the 5S was 100% faster than the 5.

That's a pretty large difference for you to try and sweep away using the argument "I don't notice it."

I can tell you that every time I compare tasks on other peoples' 5S to my 5 I absolutely notice the difference. It being real does not depend on whether or not you noticed.
 
The fact remains that Apple themselves say the iPhone 6 processor is a mere 25% faster than the 5S whereas the 5S was 100% faster than the 5.

That's a pretty large difference for you to try and sweep away using the argument "I don't notice it."

I can tell you that every time I compare tasks on other peoples' 5S to my 5 I absolutely notice the difference. It being real does not depend on whether or not you noticed.

The 5S processor is capable of speeds that are twice as fast as the processor in the i5. That doesn't mean however that the 5S is twice as fast as the i5. It doesn't open apps twice as fast, or load websites twice as fast. The i5 processor allows iOS7 to fly and it doesn't fly any faster on the 5S. Many people upgraded from an i5 to a 5S and noticed *zero* difference in speed. If your i5 is running slower than a 5S then I suggest that you reinstall iOS and set up as new.
Sure the 5S processor benchmarks faster but in real world usage it offers zero improvement upon that of the i5. The camera is of course better and then there's Touch ID, but no speed differences.
 
I am not sure if I want to upgrade from my 5S or not but I preordered a 6 just in case. If it turns out to be too big feeling for me or I don't find it worth the money to upgrade I will just return it and keep using my 5S for another year.
 
You must have a bad install on your i5 because there is zero difference in performance when navigating menus, opening apps and browsing the web.

Nope sorry. 5s is much snappier, one can feel it. Saying it in a forum doesn't make it true. Every credible website says the same thing.

I agree when turning the phone on there is no difference. After that the 5s is noticeably faster especially in rendering heavy duty web pages.
 
The 5S processor is capable of speeds that are twice as fast as the processor in the i5. That doesn't mean however that the 5S is twice as fast as the i5. It doesn't open apps twice as fast, or load websites twice as fast. The i5 processor allows iOS7 to fly and it doesn't fly any faster on the 5S. Many people upgraded from an i5 to a 5S and noticed *zero* difference in speed. If your i5 is running slower than a 5S then I suggest that you reinstall iOS and set up as new.
Sure the 5S processor benchmarks faster but in real world usage it offers zero improvement upon that of the i5. The camera is of course better and then there's Touch ID, but no speed differences.

I read this and all it says to me is that you need more interesting apps.
 
The 5S processor is capable of speeds that are twice as fast as the processor in the i5. That doesn't mean however that the 5S is twice as fast as the i5. It doesn't open apps twice as fast, or load websites twice as fast. The i5 processor allows iOS7 to fly and it doesn't fly any faster on the 5S. Many people upgraded from an i5 to a 5S and noticed *zero* difference in speed. If your i5 is running slower than a 5S then I suggest that you reinstall iOS and set up as new.
Sure the 5S processor benchmarks faster but in real world usage it offers zero improvement upon that of the i5. The camera is of course better and then there's Touch ID, but no speed differences.

To your point a lot of people won't notice a difference between a 1974 pinto and 2015 vette.

It's not a question of faster but a question of how relevant is this to you. Many people noticed how much snappier the 5s is. Those who didn't, see above.
 
I'm not big on specs, and my 5 still meets my needs perfectly. Sure, the 6 is bigger and has Touch ID. Those are things I don't really care about. It's thinner? I'd put a case on it and practically negate the difference. Faster chip? Not a game changer in everyday use.

But the real decider is that I'm in a contract until January. No need to make a decision until then when I can't see the phone in person yet. Just throwing out there that not everyone cares about having the latest and greatest. Upgrading my first gen iPad mini is more tempting.
 
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