To say the processor is twice as fast, the real world performance differences are negligible.
So imagine the difference between the 5S and i6 :-/
http://youtu.be/XkkKNV_cvAE
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iPhone 5s vs iPhone 6
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To say the processor is twice as fast, the real world performance differences are negligible.
So imagine the difference between the 5S and i6 :-/
http://youtu.be/XkkKNV_cvAE
Sorry:
There are plenty of reasons not to upgrade.
And plenty to upgrade.
Many on either side relate to vanity, want vs need, gotta have, don't need to have, have money, don't have money,got to be bigger,got to be smaller... the list goes on and on.
We are all different. If we were not all so different, some of those ugly cars would not be driving down the road.
Actually real world usage is not negligible, as the 5S has capabilities that depend on the power of the processor, while the 5 cannot do these things:
- 10 pics/second burst
- touch id
- slo mo video
So while I agree, opening an app is virtually the same on all fronts, 64 bit processing provides extra capabilities not able to be done on 32 bit. The extra bit of speed, or pop, if you will is also nice.
In addition the integrated hardware a7/m7 of the 5S allows for capabilities above the 5, like what fitness apps use.
All of this translates into a more robust platform, even if you don't see a speed improvement opening up an app.
The 5S vs 6 is less clear cut. New hardware on the 6 allows for capabilities not on the 5s. Speed of the a8/m8 would *not* be the reason for an upgrade for most people. Bigger phone, more battery and NFC might be some reasons. Other reasons might be, just because. But you also don't know what else apple tweaked in terms of hardware: ddr2 vs ddr3, fast NAND etc, would make a phone faster....it's not all pure CPU speed.
Actually real world usage is not negligible, as the 5S has capabilities that depend on the power of the processor, while the 5 cannot do these things:
- 10 pics/second burst
- touch id
- slo mo video
So while I agree, opening an app is virtually the same on all fronts, 64 bit processing provides extra capabilities not able to be done on 32 bit. The extra bit of speed, or pop, if you will is also nice.
In addition the integrated hardware a7/m7 of the 5S allows for capabilities above the 5, like what fitness apps use.
All of this translates into a more robust platform, even if you don't see a speed improvement opening up an app.
The 5S vs 6 is less clear cut. New hardware on the 6 allows for capabilities not on the 5s. Speed of the a8/m8 would *not* be the reason for an upgrade for most people. Bigger phone, more battery and NFC might be some reasons. Other reasons might be, just because. But you also don't know what else apple tweaked in terms of hardware: ddr2 vs ddr3, fast NAND etc, would make a phone faster....it's not all pure CPU speed.
The 4S was released 3 years ago and now with iOS 7 we can finally see a large speed advantage over the 4. Likewise by the time the 5S shows a large speed advantage over the 5, the 6S or even 7 will be out (with more than 1GB of ram too most likely)
Actually real world usage is not negligible, as the 5S has capabilities that depend on the power of the processor, while the 5 cannot do these things:
- 10 pics/second burst
- touch id
- slo mo video
So while I agree, opening an app is virtually the same on all fronts, 64 bit processing provides extra capabilities not able to be done on 32 bit. The extra bit of speed, or pop, if you will is also nice.
In addition the integrated hardware a7/m7 of the 5S allows for capabilities above the 5, like what fitness apps use.
All of this translates into a more robust platform, even if you don't see a speed improvement opening up an app.
I don't disagree that the camera and Touch ID are worthy reasons to go from an i5 to a 5S and sure, the extra grunt of the processor helps here and there. In terms of general UI navigation and web browsing speeds, the i5 is virtually indistinguishable from the 5S. So with the 5S having double the processor speed of the i5, I'm expecting an even more negligible performance difference between the 5S and the new i6. The i6 has only a 25% speed increase over the 5S processor. The only thing people will notice is the bigger screen, new form factor, and possibly a longer battery life. Nobody will be seeing real world speed increases over the powerhouse 5S.
If opening an app and general UI navigation is the only benchmark to which you are deciding this whole thing....there is nothing more to say.
If that is your belief, so be it. I frankly wouldn't mind if my daily commute was trimmed by a negligible, yet measurable amount every day.
In addition you totally ignored my comment about any other hardware improvements that may have been made on the 6.
And further, ignoring features on the 5s that require 64 bit issues while focusing on opening an app allows you to maintain this silly position, even though you didn't acknowledge 64 bit bisons requirement for those.
Web browsing speeds are the most important factor for me when it comes to speed increases and I said that web browsing and UI navigation/app opening etc are really no different on the i5/5S. Those three things are what people would generally notice when going from an old phone to a new one.
I didn't think that 64bit processing has made much of a difference yet?
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Most people here either don't notice or don't care about app and webpage reloading, so I doubt they would notice the shaving of a nanosecond here and there from certain intensive operations (*if they even execute them).
Try loading nin.com and let me know how it goes. It's an extreme site for web pages.
As I said as long as there is a measurable difference I'll take it. You are making your assumptions based one video after the 5s was released. 7.1.2 is far and away tweaked.
Also you don't really know how much slower your 5 is over a 5s until you use it as a daily driver.
I honestly don't know why you upgraded from a 4s. After all the 5s is only negligible faster than the 5, which is only negligibly faster than the 4s. Basically the 4s and 5s are mostly equal since its only real world performance, like UI navigation and app opening, we care about. right?
To me there is a big difference in browsing between a 5 and 5s. The 5s pops while the 5 mostly lags. You may not notice because you are so used to the 5.
My partner had a 5S before her M8 and I found it no faster. Sure I would prefer a 5S to an i5, but the speed difference (*to me) was negligible. The point of this comparison was that if the 5S isn't noticeably faster than the i5 in real world use, despite it having a processor 100% faster, then the 5S can't be much slower than the i6 if the processor is only 25% faster.
The 5S got an improved camera over the i5, and it got Touch ID. The i6 is basically only getting a bigger screen. Yeah there are improvements, I get that, but they will be negligible - and I use the i5/5S as an example of that.
Anyway, how come you're so up on the speed differences between the i5 and 5S when you claimed to see no lag on the iPhone 4 when iOS7 was installed?
My partner had a 5S before her M8 and I found it no faster. Sure I would prefer a 5S to an i5, but the speed difference (*to me) was negligible. The point of this comparison was that if the 5S isn't noticeably faster than the i5 in real world use, despite it having a processor 100% faster, then the 5S can't be much slower than the i6 if the processor is only 25% faster.
The 5S got an improved camera over the i5, and it got Touch ID. The i6 is basically only getting a bigger screen. Yeah there are improvements, I get that, but they will be negligible - and I use the i5/5S as an example of that.
Anyway, how come you're so up on the speed differences between the i5 and 5S when you claimed to see no lag on the iPhone 4 when iOS7 was installed?
You keep throwing around the term negligible as if it were meaningless to me, it's not. The speed of the 5s shows itself in the nearly instant response of the screen, which is not the case of the 5. That minor difference makes it that much more pleasurable to use the phone.
As far as the 4 goes, is there any grey area? Just because I said it doesn't lag, doesn't mean it's fast as all get go. It's perfectly usable.
As far as the 6 goes, I'm sure there will be a negligible, yet noticeable difference from the 5s.
My take:
I want the bigger screen
I want better battery life
I want Apple Pay
And not my words but what I researched and copied from another thread:
"increase in both CPU and GPU performance from the A7 into the smaller A8 while also making it 50% more power efficient".
Don't know about you but I rather it be more efficient. Even if the speed of the device turns out to be the same, I don't care.
Iphone 6 for me!
I want the bigger screen
I want better battery life
I want Apple Pay
And not my words but what I researched and copied from another thread:
"increase in both CPU and GPU performance from the A7 into the smaller A8 while also making it 50% more power efficient".
Don't know about you but I rather it be more efficient. Even if the speed of the device turns out to be the same, I don't care.
Iphone 6 for me!
I gave my mom my old 5 and I've been using my 5S since it launched. I agree with that other guy, IRL usage the performance difference is nearly identical.
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Nearly identical is not the same as identical. To me it's a noticeable difference. Not to mention the things the 5 can't do due to a lesser CPU. My guess is the disparity on what nearly identical means, is due to do what you do with your phone that makes the difference. Nearly identical is so vague as to say: "the speed of the 3GS is nearly identical to the speed of the 6" and be accurate.
Does the 5 have the microphone on the keyboard?
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