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In 2016, i really hope that we're long beyond the idea that specific colours have to be for specific genders. I hate pink, but nothing to do with my gender... more like, growing up in a house that has pinks walls everywhere because my father cheaped out and constantly just grabbed the cheapest left over paint that nobody else would buy.
I made the comment solely based on the dozens (if not more?) threads about whether the rose gold was suitable for a man. If we see a pink phone you can bet the question will be asked. More than twice.
 
Minority really? Everyone I ask, friends/family agrees it's ugly, if you are truly objective and look at it not as an Apple device, there is no way to hide that the prominent white bands on a metal frame take away from the elegance of the device. Think about it, suppose this thing had branding "Samsung" or "Microsoft" would people still see it the same?
[doublepost=1454787085][/doublepost]Be objective please, which one looks better?

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Slight edge to non-bands, but I think people need to CHILL on this topic. Neither are "sexy". It's the back of an iPhone with regulatory info. People (just like Apple) need to focus more on the internal product/battery life and tactility (neither of which is great in my opinion on the 6s). There is no reason they can't make a phone slightly thicker (ie 5S) and give it a battery that lasts 2 days.
 
I think that coming out with new colors is just a strategy so they don't have to fix the problems in the OS.

Compared to what? Android?

In all seriousness, iOS is the main reason for buying an iPhone. Including its now mature, fully-developed 64-bit application portfolio. And its better security. And its privacy (practically non-existent in Android -- just try to keep secrets from Google), and, privacy-control settings and options. The other reason is that Apple supports multi-band GSM/LTE better than anyone else. Better portability anywhere in the world than any other smart phone. When it comes to the packaging, I like other phones better -- especially slightly thicker phones with larger, replaceable batteries. But, Android is a poor second to iOS.
 
I think that coming out with new colors is just a strategy so they don't have to fix the problems in the OS.

That makes no sense whatsoever.
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It's such a shame that Apple are always so unwilling to do as Nokia used to do and does so well, and that's make a phone with a changeable back, so you can remove the back and replace it with any custom one of any colour or design you wish.

I´m glad they don´t do kind of nonsense. The Nokia sets were plagues by issues such as backs that fall off at random and a lot of flex and gaps between components. It is also clear that Apple is stealthily working towards making their handsets water resistant. Adding custom backs as a "feature" would not only make the iPhone "fatter" but also much more susceptible to invasion by dirt and water.
 
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I really hope it has the 6s camera, it will be a hot seller. I can live without touch id and 3d touch, but not without a good camera
 
you know, breast cancer awareness campaigns are full of pink for a reason.

Probably the same reason wall and ceiling insulation is full of pink - it's an attractive and attention grabbing color that works well for identifying a brand.
 
Probably the same reason wall and ceiling insulation is full of pink - it's an attractive and attention grabbing color that works well for identifying a brand.

Nope. It's because pink is identified with the feminine. That's why the blue ribbon, and the blue/pink ribbon exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_ribbon :
"The color pink is considered feminine in modern Western countries. It evokes traditional feminine gender roles, caring for other people, being beautiful, being good, and being cooperative.

The pink ribbon represents fear of breast cancer, hope for the future, and the charitable goodness of people and businesses who publicly support the breast cancer movement.[7] It is intended to evoke solidarity with women who currently have breast cancer.

Breast cancer organizations use the pink ribbon to associate themselves with breast cancer, to promote breast cancer awareness, and to support fundraising.[8]Some breast cancer-related organizations, such as Pink Ribbon International,[9] use the pink ribbon as their primary symbol. Susan G. Komen for the Cure uses a stylized "running ribbon" as their logo.[10]

While specifically representing breast cancer awareness, the pink ribbon is also a symbol and a proxy of goodwill towards women in general.[11] Buying, wearing, displaying, or sponsoring pink ribbons signals that the person or business cares about women. The pink ribbon is a marketing brand for businesses that allows them to promote themselves with women and identify themselves as being socially aware.[12] Compared to other women's issues, promoting breast cancer awareness is politically safe"
 
you know, breast cancer awareness campaigns are full of pink for a reason.

Lol, go defend "blackface" or pretend like that one slang word for homosexual is ok because is actually means "a bundle of sticks" or something equally silly & disingenuous... because that's EXACTLY how you sound to me.

This is 2016!!!!

You sound just as ignorant and bigoted and small-minded "sticking up" for gender stereotyping as you would making excuses for & condoning racism or homophobia. Check yourself and wake up. The stuff that was "appropriate" for you to say a few decades ago is now considered a faux pas.
 
Lol, go defend "blackface" or pretend like that one slang word for homosexual is ok because is actually means "a bundle of sticks" or something equally silly & disingenuous... because that's EXACTLY how you sound to me.

This is 2016!!!!

You sound just as ignorant and bigoted and small-minded "sticking up" for gender stereotyping as you would making excuses for & condoning racism or homophobia. Check yourself and wake up. The stuff that was "appropriate" for you to say a few decades ago is now considered a faux pas.

If you could refrain from calling names and making assumptions that would be nice. We're all adults here, and you don't have a clue of what I do and who I am.
I simply said that pink is linked to the feminine, often by women themselves.
Exactly as LGBT movement has the rainbow.
Exactly as men have blue.
and so on.

It's just one of the many ways of self-identifying on a somewhat public level, and one of the many ways of avoiding being anonymous.
There is nothing wrong in a man buying a pink phone (I wouldn't. But I wouldn't buy a green or blue phone either. Space gray or black is fine for me).
 
Nope. It's because pink is identified with the feminine. That's why the blue ribbon, and the blue/pink ribbon exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_ribbon :
"The color pink is considered feminine in modern Western countries. It evokes traditional feminine gender roles, caring for other people, being beautiful, being good, and being cooperative.

The pink ribbon represents fear of breast cancer, hope for the future, and the charitable goodness of people and businesses who publicly support the breast cancer movement.[7] It is intended to evoke solidarity with women who currently have breast cancer.

Breast cancer organizations use the pink ribbon to associate themselves with breast cancer, to promote breast cancer awareness, and to support fundraising.[8]Some breast cancer-related organizations, such as Pink Ribbon International,[9] use the pink ribbon as their primary symbol. Susan G. Komen for the Cure uses a stylized "running ribbon" as their logo.[10]

While specifically representing breast cancer awareness, the pink ribbon is also a symbol and a proxy of goodwill towards women in general.[11] Buying, wearing, displaying, or sponsoring pink ribbons signals that the person or business cares about women. The pink ribbon is a marketing brand for businesses that allows them to promote themselves with women and identify themselves as being socially aware.[12] Compared to other women's issues, promoting breast cancer awareness is politically safe"

Worth noting that the only assertion in that wikipedia page you copied and pasted that did not have a citation is "The color pink is considered feminine in modern Western countries."

Still, I don't find wall and ceiling insulation very feminine. And the guys that came to install it were anything but feminine.

Finally, throughout history, pink has been associated with men for a much longer time than with women. The reversal happened very recently, and it seems with trends today it will not be very long lived.

"From a 1918 editorial called “Pink or Blue” cited by Kimmel: 'There has been a great diversity of opinion on the subject, but the generally accepted rule is pink for the boy and blue for the girl. The reason is that pink being a more decided and stronger color is more suitable for the boy; while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl.'" http://www.gender-focus.com/2010/09/23/pink-for-girls/

"In 1927, Time magazine printed a chart showing sex-appropriate colors for girls and boys according to leading U.S. stores. In Boston, Filene’s told parents to dress boys in pink. So did Best & Co. in New York City, Halle’s in Cleveland and Marshall Field in Chicago."
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"Today’s color dictate wasn’t established until the 1940s, as a result of Americans’ preferences as interpreted by manufacturers and retailers. 'It could have gone the other way,' Paoletti says." http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/

It makes sense. Red meat is pink, hot iron is pink. Also flowers are pink. Doesn't really cut either way for me.
 
If you could refrain from calling names and making assumptions that would be nice. We're all adults here, and you don't have a clue of what I do and who I am.
I simply said that pink is linked to the feminine, often by women themselves.
Exactly as LGBT movement has the rainbow.
Exactly as men have blue.
and so on.

It's just one of the many ways of self-identifying on a somewhat public level, and one of the many ways of avoiding being anonymous.
There is nothing wrong in a man buying a pink phone (I wouldn't. But I wouldn't buy a green or blue phone either. Space gray or black is fine for me).

Lol, no name calling has gone on.
You're legitimately tripping!
Look... I hate the color pink that they've shown & personally would never buy it.
HOWEVER, were I to live in such a vacuum of outdated backwards thinking that I believed (as you apparently do) that somehow wearing a blue shirt is how to self-identify as a macho straight dude & wearing a pink shirt is how you'd self-identify as an effeminate and/or gay man... I'd REALLY want someone to clue me in, so I didn't walk around embarrassing myself by saying offensive things unwittingly.
Lol, you remind me of Trump saying "I love the blacks", and not even realizing there's anything wrong with it.
I'm not making ANY assumptions about you, dude... I'm just stating "how it is"- you talk like that, you represent yourself as a particular thing... if you really AREN'T that way & don't want people to think that.
It's real easy. Quit acting/talking like that!
 
Worth noting that the only assertion in that wikipedia page you copied and pasted that did not have a citation is "The color pink is considered feminine in modern Western countries."

Still, I don't find wall and ceiling insulation very feminine. And the guys that came to install it were anything but feminine.

Finally, throughout history, pink has been associated with men for a much longer time than with women. The reversal happened very recently, and it seems with trends today it will not be very long lived.

"From a 1918 editorial called “Pink or Blue” cited by Kimmel: 'There has been a great diversity of opinion on the subject, but the generally accepted rule is pink for the boy and blue for the girl. The reason is that pink being a more decided and stronger color is more suitable for the boy; while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl.'" http://www.gender-focus.com/2010/09/23/pink-for-girls/

"In 1927, Time magazine printed a chart showing sex-appropriate colors for girls and boys according to leading U.S. stores. In Boston, Filene’s told parents to dress boys in pink. So did Best & Co. in New York City, Halle’s in Cleveland and Marshall Field in Chicago."
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"Today’s color dictate wasn’t established until the 1940s, as a result of Americans’ preferences as interpreted by manufacturers and retailers. 'It could have gone the other way,' Paoletti says." http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/

It makes sense. Red meat is pink, hot iron is pink. Also flowers are pink. Doesn't really cut either way for me.

Ok, call the breast cancer foundation and tell them that they're doing a disservice.
I never said that pink=feminine, blue = masculine is an eternal truth that began with the formation of the solar system and will end at Armageddon or whatever.

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Lol, no name calling has gone on.

I guess that yours "You sound just as ignorant and bigoted and small-minded" was meant as a compliment.

Look... I hate the color pink that they've shown & personally would never buy it.

We agree on this at least

HOWEVER, were I to live in such a vacuum of outdated backwards thinking that I believed (as you apparently do) that somehow wearing a blue shirt is how to self-identify as a macho straight dude & wearing a pink shirt is how you'd self-identify as an effeminate and/or gay man...

So now you read my mind and you know what I believe? I simply said that often blue is linked to masculine, and pink is linked to feminine. This does not offend women, and does not offend men - it is actually used to bring awareness to a very specific issue such as breast cancer in women. A white ribbon would not be as effective as a pink ribbon.
As far as I know it does not offend anyone in the LGBT community, which is actually full of color-coded stuff. It's just normal, and it is actually beautiful to see the variety of the human way of self-identifying. As far as I care, buy a pink car, a pink sweater, and a pink phone.

I'm just stating "how it is"- you talk like that, you represent yourself as a particular thing... if you really AREN'T that way & don't want people to think that.
It's real easy. Quit acting/talking like that!

huh?
 
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Minority really? Everyone I ask, friends/family agrees it's ugly, if you are truly objective and look at it not as an Apple device, there is no way to hide that the prominent white bands on a metal frame take away from the elegance of the device. Think about it, suppose this thing had branding "Samsung" or "Microsoft" would people still see it the same?
[doublepost=1454787085][/doublepost]Be objective please, which one looks better?

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So everyone you ask (family/friends) is objective evidence that this phone is ugly.

Thank you for describing the Internet.
 
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