IPhone 6.6+ picture compression?

[mightyjabba]

Seeing as I upgraded from an iPhone 5, I'm confident that the photos I've taken on the 6+ are significantly better, but if all you care about is zooming to 100% and checking the detail then you'll probably be disappointed.

 

[cg006]

Its not even about zooming in anbd pixel peep....
Alot of pictures are quickly ruined just trying to crop it. Digital zoom is horrible so thats out the question. At least if you got a good source to work with, cropping pics is more doable.


I realize that yes, its not gonna be SLR quality pics... i get that..
But this is a new phone with "improved" optics. It should look better than my previous 2 year old iphone 5 purple glare and all.

And not i will not be returning the phone....but its just a major bummer this is even an issue.










https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6576391


http://improvephotography.com/30019/iphone-6-camera-depth-review/

 

[ClarkWG]

Its not even about zooming in anbd pixel peep....
Alot of pictures are quickly ruined just trying to crop it. Digital zoom is horrible so thats out the question. At least if you got a good source to work with, cropping pics is more doable.


I realize that yes, its not gonna be SLR quality pics... i get that..
But this is a new phone with "improved" optics. It should look better than my previous 2 year old iphone 5 purple glare and all.

And not i will not be returning the phone....but its just a major bummer this is even an issue.










https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6576391


http://improvephotography.com/30019/iphone-6-camera-depth-review/

100%. Show me a side by side picture where the 6 is Better than the 5 or 5S.

 

[mightyjabba]

I'm just really surprised that you would say that it's worse than the 5/5s in every case. As I've mentioned in one of the other threads on this subject, I made smart albums in iPhoto to divide up my photos by the camera that took them. I did this to compare files sizes, since some people were claiming that the new phones took photos that were half the size of the previous ones. This is demonstrably untrue. But it also allowed me to look back on the photos i've taken and compare them by camera, without my "good" camera's images mixed in. The ones from the 6+ are clearer and have better color overall than my 5. The 5s I never had, so I can't compare. And I no longer have the 5 or I would try taking direct comparisons.

 

[ClarkWG]

Well I have my 5 and have done many comparisons. 5 is better. I am comparing same subject same lighting etc.

 

[mightyjabba]

Okay, show them.

 

[ClarkWG]

IPhone 6.6+ picture compression?



Left is 6. Right is 5.

 

[mightyjabba]

Yes, I saw that one, but that's been zoomed in so the overly aggressive noise reduction on the 6 is to blame for the loss of detail.

 

[Bacong]

I feel like the sensor lets in too much light. Indoors daylight pics look really bad if there's a lightsource behind your focus.

 

[ziggy2121]

While I have been enjoying the picture quality of my iPhone 6 in the bright sunlight I have to agree that the compression in low light situations seems to be pretty bad. Now before you start jumping on me let me say that I have had a iphone since the very first one and recently upgraded from a 4s to the 6.. I didn't want the 5. Yes I love my iPhone & Apple products and wouldn't trade them for anything else but I was pretty disappointed recently with the cameras performance at a few concerts I just went to. Yes I know.. it's not a professional camera, blah blah blah! But I have been to many concerts with my other phones and 4s and have never seen pictures as compression as I have on the new 6. I'm also an amateur photographer for 15 years and know how to use a camera! I was very close the the stage and even picture where the full house lights were on I was disappointed at how smudgy and how much detail was lost. Someone next to me had a Samsung phone and was getting much better pictures that I was able to get. With that being said I do love the phone. I just do see where there can be too much compression being applied at times. Hopefully Apple will at least look into it and fix it in a future update if necessary.

If there's a way to upload pics from my phone I will post them for you to see what I'm talking about.

 

[ClarkWG]

While I have been enjoying the picture quality of my iPhone 6 in the bright sunlight I have to agree that the compression in low light situations seems to be pretty bad. Now before you start jumping on me let me say that I have had a iphone since the very first one and recently upgraded from a 4s to the 6.. I didn't want the 5. Yes I love my iPhone & Apple products and wouldn't trade them for anything else but I was pretty disappointed recently with the cameras performance at a few concerts I just went to. Yes I know.. it's not a professional camera, blah blah blah! But I have been to many concerts with my other phones and 4s and have never seen pictures as compression as I have on the new 6. I'm also an amateur photographer for 15 years and know how to use a camera! I was very close the the stage and even picture where the full house lights were on I was disappointed at how smudgy and how much detail was lost. Someone next to me had a Samsung phone and was getting much better pictures that I was able to get. With that being said I do love the phone. I just do see where there can be too much compression being applied at times. Hopefully Apple will at least look into it and fix it in a future update if necessary.



If there's a way to upload pics from my phone I will post them for you to see what I'm talking about.

You are correct. To much jpg compression and too much noise reduction.

 

[Gmcube]

I feel like the sensor lets in too much light. Indoors daylight pics look really bad if there's a lightsource behind your focus.

No such thing as letting in too much light really, the more light the faster your shutter speed and lower your ISO can be. People pay thousands for lenses that let in more light.

 

[ClarkWG]

Yes, I saw that one, but that's been zoomed in so the overly aggressive noise reduction on the 6 is to blame for the loss of detail.

It shows what we are seeing. On a 4.7 or 5.5 screen the pics sometimes look ok. On a monitor or zoomed at all the problems show up clearly.

 

[mightyjabba]

To be clear, I'm not trying to say that there are no issues present. I think the overly aggressive noise correction is a problem, and I'm not really sure why they decided to go that way. I don't see any basis for claiming that the problem is too much compression since A) the files themselves aren't actually any smaller than previous phones and B) the issues we're seeing don't resemble compression artifacts at all (at least not to me). They're clearly caused by noise correction.

My main point is that when I look at photos taken with my 6+ without zooming, either on my iPhone/iPad or on my computer, they look very good overall, and noticeably better than the iPhone 5. If I went zooming in to look at all the fine detail, it might be different, but that's not what I require of my cell phone camera.

 

[doxielover]

To be clear, I'm not trying to say that there are no issues present. I think the overly aggressive noise correction is a problem, and I'm not really sure why they decided to go that way. I don't see any basis for claiming that the problem is too much compression since A) the files themselves aren't actually any smaller than previous phones and B) the issues we're seeing don't resemble compression artifacts at all (at least not to me). They're clearly caused by noise correction.

My main point is that when I look at photos taken with my 6+ without zooming, either on my iPhone/iPad or on my computer, they look very good overall, and noticeably better than the iPhone 5. If I went zooming in to look at all the fine detail, it might be different, but that's not what I require of my cell phone camera.

I do as I like to zoom in on my pics and take macro shots with nice detail.

 

[ClarkWG]

I do as I like to zoom in on my pics and take macro shots with nice detail.

The image processor needs adjustment pronto.

 

[doxielover]

The image processor needs adjustment pronto.

I just got one delivered I may return it if its doing the same. I can live with my 4s for now. I'm not spending $925 with tax for a phone with a worse cam than my 4s. It was bad enough to hear it was still 8mp but thought it must be great otherwise. This is so disappointing.

 

[noobinator]

I just got one delivered I may return it if its doing the same. I can live with my 4s for now. I'm not spending $925 with tax for a phone with a worse cam than my 4s. It was bad enough to hear it was still 8mp but thought it must be great otherwise. This is so disappointing.

The camera is still much better than the 4s.

It's a much better sensor and ignore the amount of MP unless you are planning on printing posters.

 

[mightyjabba]

I just can't get my mind around someone saying that the 4s has a better camera. That's just crazy! Seriously.

 

[doxielover]

IPhone 6.6+ picture compression?

The camera is still much better than the 4s.

It's a much better sensor and ignore the amount of MP unless you are planning on printing posters.

I've been going to websites with comparison shots. No the pics out of the 4s look sharper and more detailed when zoomed. I have DSLR but more and more leaving it at home for a $1000 phone I thought camera should output better photos then my 4 yr old 4S. Yes, I do like to print my photos.

Apparently the 5 and 4 didn't have this strong jpg compression engine being used on the 6 that's causes loss of detail, blurry and painted look when zoomed in.

 

[mightyjabba]

Can we please stop saying that it's compression that's the problem? The photos aren't any smaller, on average, than those taken by other iPhones. Ergo, they aren't overly compressed.

 

[doxielover]

Can we please stop saying that it's compression that's the problem? The photos aren't any smaller, on average, than those taken by other iPhones. Ergo, they aren't overly compressed.

Sorry I meant aggressive noise correction. Lol

 

[Meathead1]

Can we please stop saying that it's compression that's the problem? The photos aren't any smaller, on average, than those taken by other iPhones. Ergo, they aren't overly compressed.

Not true. Same pic is smaller with 6.

 

[mightyjabba]

Not true. Same pic is smaller with 6.

My own research doesn't bear this out. Sure, depending on the conditions, it may be that if you take two pictures of the same thing with the two phones side by side that they won't be the same size. I'd be interested to know if you've tested that. But on average (and I compared average file sizes of the 4, 5 and 6 Plus for random groups of 200 images in my iPhoto library) there doesn't appear to be any significant difference between the 6 and earlier phones. I've heard people say that the 6 produced images that were half the file size of the previous phones, which what accounted for the loss of detail when zoomed, but this just does not appear to be true.

 

[doxielover]

My own research doesn't bear this out. Sure, depending on the conditions, it may be that if you take two pictures of the same thing with the two phones side by side that they won't be the same size. I'd be interested to know if you've tested that. But on average (and I compared average file sizes of the 4, 5 and 6 Plus for random groups of 200 images in my iPhoto library) there doesn't appear to be any significant difference between the 6 and earlier phones. I've heard people say that the 6 produced images that were half the file size of the previous phones, which what accounted for the loss of detail when zoomed, but this just does not appear to be true.

I have everything apple in my home and love apple products but I have to admit my friend has a Samsung Galaxy 5 and has printed photos from on our hikes. Her photos are simply gorgeous.