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If you truly believe that, then you have just proving to everyone here that you are a troll, and you are not worth my time.

You are invisible now. :cool:

Go for it, show me where the iphone 6 is just is strong as the 5s. Show me that Apple does not have a quality issue with the 6. Until then, you are the Apple defender white knight troll.
 
Show me that Apple does not have a quality issue with the 6. .

You keep trying to make fletch happen.
Fletch is not going to happen.

Maybe get another hobby?

Of course they have a "quality issue" they have sold tens of millions of phones and tens of millions of people are happy with them. They have outsold everyone else this season by a wide margin...now, that is quality! Or did you expect the phones to be perfect?
 
You keep trying to make fletch happen.
Fletch is not going to happen.

Maybe get another hobby?

Of course they have a "quality issue" they have sold tens of millions of phones and tens of millions of people are happy with them. They have outsold everyone else this season by a wide margin...now, that is quality! Or did you expect the phones to be perfect?

Nope, no issues at all....
https://forums.macrumors.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=11478

Put your head back in the sand.
 
You keep trying to make fletch happen.
Fletch is not going to happen.

Maybe get another hobby?

Of course they have a "quality issue" they have sold tens of millions of phones and tens of millions of people are happy with them. They have outsold everyone else this season by a wide margin...now, that is quality! Or did you expect the phones to be perfect?

When someone pays like $800+ for a product they expect it to be absolutely perfect without flaws and stuff so yeah. I've seen ridiculous stories here where people demand to open like 4 or 5 new phones just to pick the most perfect one before they leave the store.
 
Whatever you say Mr. Wizard. Without any proof, I have a hard time believing you just as much as you have a hard time believing me.

Proof that legs are big, soft things with a bone way down in the middle? Proof that the idea of a leg acting as a fulcrum against a phone that's very small in comparison to the surface of the leg is pretty ridiculous? No proof of those things is necessary. They're manifestly obvious. Your leg isn't a fulcrum. It's soft. It's wide. Wider than the phone. Your fulcrum theory is weak. Just as weak as the "little flexes over time" theory.
 
Proof that legs are big, soft things with a bone way down in the middle? Proof that the idea of a leg acting as a fulcrum against a phone that's very small in comparison to the surface of the leg is pretty ridiculous? No proof of those things is necessary. They're manifestly obvious. Your leg isn't a fulcrum. It's soft. It's wide. Wider than the phone. Your fulcrum theory is weak. Just as weak as the "little flexes over time" theory.

Yes Surf, because all bodies are built the same. I am not even saying I buy into this leg fulcrum theory, but your argument here isn't going to hold up. Sorry.
 
I never claim to be perfect, yet I take great care of my smartphones and Mac Laptop's. Twenty years of stellar service and the only issue I've ever had was the rather fragile iP6+ I use. All prior smartphones (over 40) have held up without any cosmetic issues much less structural like these phones.

I carry mine in hand or in a dedicated front pocket, and always removed when sitting. Yet the first one bent. Apple graciously replaced it. I became extremely wary and careful. Eight weeks later another bent phone. Once again Apple replaces it without hesitation.

2015 simply cannot come fast enough. I_know_ Apple will build them better the second time around.

I also carry my 6+ in my front pocket, and often leave it in while sitting/driving, and mine has not bent. People are affixed on the pocket, but I would wager everything I own that there is something ELSE that is happening to your phones, which is causing them to bend.
 
Nope, no issues at all....
https://forums.macrumors.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=11478

Put your head back in the sand.

Whoa! That is eye opening!!

254 anonymous people who claim they have the phone perceive that it is not perfect out of 40,000,000 phones sold?! That is OVER 0.001%.

Well, you are right, the phone clearly is not a perfect device that meets everyone's needs and everyone's perception of a perfect phone.

Hold the phone! I better go sell my stock since I was sure that the phone was 100% perfect and that no one ever thought otherwise.

Seriously, dude, stop trying to make fletch happen. It ain't going to happen.
 
Whatever you say Mr. Wizard. Without any proof, I have a hard time believing you just as much as you have a hard time believing me.

My proof is in the fact that you don't have gigantic bruises on your leg from where your iPhone crushed your muscles and bent against your femur. There is a reason muscle is considered "soft tissue" in the medical community.

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Nope, no issues at all....
https://forums.macrumors.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=11478

Put your head back in the sand.

Do you think a poll on a forum like this one is scientific in any way? How about you post the same poll on a parenting website and see how the results look. That would be a better sample of average users.
 
Yes Surf, because all bodies are built the same. I am not even saying I buy into this leg fulcrum theory, but your argument here isn't going to hold up. Sorry.

A leg is a leg. It's largely soft muscle with a bone down inside. It's wide. Wider than an iPhone. Unless you're an infant these things hold true for all adult legs. The idea that a leg is going to act as a fulcrum in this case is absurd. As absurd as suggesting that a pillow with a stick inside it could act as a fulcrum for bending a nail. Your leg is not a solid object. It just isn't.
 
I've been very careful of my iPhone 6 and I check it every couple of days to make sure it hasn't been bent, but that doesn't mean that it won't bend eventually. I don't believe all these people who say the iPhone won't bend by simply being in your pocket because it's not just your pocket that is causing the bend, but the force between your leg and the fabric of your pants put pressure on the phone itself. Numerous times, I've seen my iPhone turn completely 90 degrees in my jeans pocket and if I sit down like that, I can see and feel lots of force being applied to my phone as my leg acts as a focal point and the top and bottom of my phone attempt to wrap around my leg as my pants get tight and stretch over the phone.



Tell people to stop implying that putting a phone in your pocket won't make it bend.



You're right. Phones don't just bend just sitting there, but there are "normal" situations that might accidentally cause it to bend where phones that came before it did not. Sitting down with your phone in your pocket is not something that is abnormal in my opinion.

Kudos for an excellent post. Your points are well stated.

I concur ... :)
 
I also carry my 6+ in my front pocket, and often leave it in while sitting/driving, and mine has not bent. People are affixed on the pocket, but I would wager everything I own that there is something ELSE that is happening to your phones, which is causing them to bend.
I've dedicated both front pants pockets for the two phones I've carried daily since the very first iPhone and first Android were introduced. Never using a screen protector and always at the end of the year marveled at how perfect the displays and phone bodies have held up.

I've enjoyed each of these two platforms immensely even from day one when Android was indeed a very basic rudimentary phone compared to my original iPhone. Fast forward many new phones later to today where my Nexus 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are both so fast fun and smooth. Smartphones have come a long way. While I may joke about it from time to time, I do believe in most cases of bending you are absolutely correct.

Going forward I'd sure like to see Apple increase thickness by a mere 2 mm, filling that space with a higher capacity battery.

That would be my ideal iPhone :)
 
I've dedicated both front pants pockets for the two phones I've carried daily since the very first iPhone and first Android were introduced. Never using a screen protector and always at the end of the year marveled at how perfect the displays and phone bodies have held up.

I've enjoyed each of these two platforms immensely even from day one when Android was indeed a very basic rudimentary phone compared to my original iPhone. Fast forward many new phones later to today where my Nexus 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are both so fast fun and smooth. Smartphones have come a long way. While I may joke about it from time to time, I do believe in most cases of bending you are absolutely correct.

Going forward I'd sure like to see Apple increase thickness by a mere 2 mm, filling that space with a higher capacity battery.

That would be my ideal iPhone :)

Filling the space with strengthening inserts, a bigger battery, and more RAM.☺️
 
Going forward I'd sure like to see Apple increase thickness by a mere 2 mm, filling that space with a higher capacity battery.

Gotta say. While more battery is always welcome, the 6 Plus is no slouch. Compared to the 5 it's amazing. I charge mine once a day and after 3 months I still get a solid 9-10 hours of screen use each time.
 
Gotta say. While more battery is always welcome, the 6 Plus is no slouch. Compared to the 5 it's amazing. I charge mine once a day and after 3 months I still get a solid 9-10 hours of screen use each time.

I don't disagree. In fact it's important that I disclose the fact that I'm an exceptionally heavy user. If not for all international travel I do and that much of my work can be done via smartphone when time doesn't permit the use of my MBA, I'd be fine with the current battery.
 
Gotta say. While more battery is always welcome, the 6 Plus is no slouch. Compared to the 5 it's amazing. I charge mine once a day and after 3 months I still get a solid 9-10 hours of screen use each time.

The 6+ battery is no slouch indeed. Compared to the i4 and i5 I had before it, the battery life is simply insane. However, being greedy, imagine if it lasted half as long again. Each charge wears the battery and subsequently charging it less would keep maximum performance for longer.

I've often wondered why unibody phones such as the iPhone don't have slot-in batteries which push into the body like the SIM and MicroSD cards do. That way we could carry fully-charged spares with us, and also not fret about battery longevity. Being able to walk into an Apple store and pay $40 for a genuine replacement battery would be awesome.
 
The 6+ battery is no slouch indeed. Compared to the i4 and i5 I had before it, the battery life is simply insane. However, being greedy, imagine if it lasted half as long again. Each charge wears the battery and subsequently charging it less would keep maximum performance for longer.

I've often wondered why unibody phones such as the iPhone don't have slot-in batteries which push into the body like the SIM and MicroSD cards do. That way we could carry fully-charged spares with us, and also not fret about battery longevity. Being able to walk into an Apple store and pay $40 for a genuine replacement battery would be awesome.

Your idea of easily changed batteries has fatal flaws:

You ... not Apple thought of it which is extremely damaging to their ego.

Then there's the problem of it being a perfect fault free inexpensive solution... another hit to Apples vision as the superior beings.

Finally your suggestion of a very reasonably priced battery is salt on Apples wounds... NOTHING Apple is reasonably priced.

See all the problems your brilliant idea causes?

Me? Sign me up, I'd buy one for every member of my family...NOW! :)
 
I suppose that's supposed to be satire? I mean, if you hold the company in such outright contempt...

The decision to opt for a non-removable battery has been discussed to death here. There are valid reasons for doing it. None of them have anything to do with what you wrote though.


Your idea of easily changed batteries has fatal flaws:

You ... not Apple thought of it which is extremely damaging to their ego.

Then there's the problem of it being a perfect fault free inexpensive solution... another hit to Apples vision as the superior beings.

Finally your suggestion of a very reasonably priced battery is salt on Apples wounds... NOTHING Apple is reasonably priced.

See all the problems your brilliant idea causes?

Me? Sign me up, I'd buy one for every member of my family...NOW! :)
 
I suppose that's supposed to be satire? I mean, if you hold the company in such outright contempt...

The decision to opt for a non-removable battery has been discussed to death here. There are valid reasons for doing it. None of them have anything to do with what you wrote though.

Contempt is far too serious and doesn't even enter my mind.

My sense of humor isn't as conventional as some :)
 
I suppose that's supposed to be satire? I mean, if you hold the company in such outright contempt...

The decision to opt for a non-removable battery has been discussed to death here. There are valid reasons for doing it. None of them have anything to do with what you wrote though.

I can't think of one valid reason to the consumer.
 
Contempt is far too serious and doesn't even enter my mind.

My sense of humor isn't as conventional as some :)

Reads pretty contemptuous and not very humorous. Hyperbolic trashing for the sake of trashing.

Personally I couldn't care less about a removable battery. Now that the Plus has a battery that lasts all day it isn't an issue and after decades of dealing with crappy battery doors, crappy battery connections, crappy battery chargers and etc. on other phones, cameras and so forth I'm content having it be built in so I don't have to jerk around with it. One more thing to break IMO, plus increased cost for engineering and the inevitable battery after market. No thanks. Sounds like an excuse to make the batteries weak and force me to charge a bunch of spares.
 
Reads pretty contemptuous and not very humorous. Hyperbolic trashing for the sake of trashing.

Personally I couldn't care less about a removable battery. Now that the Plus has a battery that lasts all day it isn't an issue and after decades of dealing with crappy battery doors, crappy battery connections, crappy battery chargers and etc. on other phones, cameras and so forth I'm content having it be built in so I don't have to jerk around with it. One more thing to break IMO, plus increased cost for engineering and the inevitable battery after market. No thanks. Sounds like an excuse to make the batteries weak and force me to charge a bunch of spares.

I read that iPhone batteries cost Apple less than $5. Batteries don't come much cheaper than that...
A user-replaceable battery would be nice. I know they're easy to replace anyway, but sourcing a genuine one is almost impossible. Who wants to put a bogus battery into their expensive device?
 
Listen, if anyone wants to give me an iPhone 6 that I can destroy, I'll show you how I can use my leg to bend the iPhone 6 substantially.

Even though my leg has skin, tissue and muscle, it compresses and at a certain point, it's hard enough to bend something without it HURTING ME.

Ever take a stick and break it over your thigh? Did that hurt? Did the stick dig all the way down to your bone? Of course not.

Again. Let me have an iPhone that I can break and I'll post a video of it on here and prove to you people that an iPhone can bend in your pocket if it's tightened against your leg when sitting down.

I don't wear tight pants either, but when I lift my legs up, the pants tend to tighten around my thighs. I think this happens to everyone. When there's something in my pocket, the pants tend to get even tighter.

Here's a video of how a leg can cause pressure on this phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQxX_x3HTXQ
 
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