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I'd like a slice of that iPhone 6 with a heaping side of BEZEL!

So happy for that huge top and bottom bezel. :(
 
As it is clearly stated. There is nothing to verify if this is indeed sapphire. May be Gorilla Glass in the video.

It's pretty easy to figure out, any university chem lab could run it through the spectrometer. Or even easier just shine a light through it and see what its diffraction index is - that would take any physics 101 student about 10 seconds to do. I guess tech journalists never really did that "science thing?"

Kinda rough on the tech journalist don't you think? IF they had the piece in person, I agree, pretty simple test(s) are available to find out material composition. But they can't analyze a video for composition.

Like rp2011 said, it could be GG. Could even be plastic for all we know. Someone on youtube pointedly asked how did he confirm it was sapphire and no answer from Sonny yet. If Sonny wanted to lend credence to his claim he could simply scratch the glass with a rock like GT Advance did in their video. It wouldn't be definitive but better than bending a panel when the big advantage of sapphire was touted as scratch resistance not flexibility.
 
The "bulges" on the side are exactly why the iPhone 6 will be much harder to bend than the 5/5S. This shape is the strongest geometry possible in this context. I think overall the iPhone 6 will be the most durable iPhone since the original (which also had a similar shape).

Also I suspect that unlike the mock-up, the front panel will seamlessly complete the curves on the side so that seen from the side the curve will be symmetric.

There's also a part that we haven't seen yet, which is the ring that goes around the front display and hold it in place.

Because the edges of this front panel seems very thin, I think that it may not use the usual plastic/rubber ring used in previous iPhones.

Maybe the gasket ring around the panel will be made of liquid metal and will be fused with the sapphire part. Apple has many patents that cover this.

Yes indeed.
 
Does anyone else have a feeling that the mockups are not going to look like anything Apple is going to release?

I was looking through the archives about what the iPhone 5 would look like and MacRumors was off lol... any one else feel the same way or are we dead on about what the iPhone 6 is going to look like?

Sadly, I have to disagree. We've seen way too many consistent mockups and leaks going as far back as March-April, to think the 6 4.7/5.5 form factors will look anything other than what the mockups have been telling us.

In comparison, the initial "tear drop" iPhone 5 mockup didn't last long in the rumor mill once it was "leaked" (very, very early in Sept 2011). https://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/2...een-source-of-teardrop-iphone-5-case-designs/ (Way earlier than when "normal" leaks occur.)

Once we got to July of 2012, the real iPhone 5 chassis was finally leaked. https://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/1...y-for-iphone-5-rumored-specs-equally-suspect/

I don't think the basic form factor of the 6 will look any different than what has been reported thus far. :apple:
 
I just want better battery life ... currently down to 40% from intermittent use as I'm at work, connected to wifi, and it was fully charged at 7:30AM (it's 4PM at the moment).

Not sure how this compares to other smartphones but 12 hours of heavy usage is about my limit. I really love the iPhone but it's crazy to think that a MacBook Air almost has as much battery life. Hope Apple address this in the 6 and really push some innovation with power saving.

If you try the Samsung S3, S4 and even S5, you would be more disappointed. It's in the software background processes. LTE, WiFi consumes battery; if the signals are strong, the less juice needed. Both Apple and Google are racing to address issues to keep these processes at sleep when not needed or battery is low.
 
The "bulges" on the side are exactly why the iPhone 6 will be much harder to bend than the 5/5S. This shape is the strongest geometry possible in this context. I think overall the iPhone 6 will be the most durable iPhone since the original (which also had a similar shape).

Also I suspect that unlike the mock-up, the front panel will seamlessly complete the curves on the side so that seen from the side the curve will be symmetric.

There's also a part that we haven't seen yet, which is the ring that goes around the front display and hold it in place.

Because the edges of this front panel seems very thin, I think that it may not use the usual plastic/rubber ring used in previous iPhones.

Maybe the gasket ring around the panel will be made of liquid metal and will be fused with the sapphire part. Apple has many patents that cover this.
I agree that the bulges would help dissipate stress and force better, but I think it's the uglier, less elegant design.

I'll keep an open mind to the final product, because it will look so much better once revealed, but I'd personally love the iPod design in this case. I think it'd look and feel great.
 
Sony can you please try scratching the screen to see if it is sapphire or not?!!!

Yea get some quartz and see how hard the screen is!

I'm sure I'll be smitten when I see the whole shebang on stage - but I feel like from what I've seen so far, it's a little conservative. I wish the top and bottom bezels were smaller, or that the front-facing cameras/sensors were more discreet. If this is accurate, the iPhone face is still a lot of empty plastic, not greatly changed since the iPhone 4.
 
what a stupid test, in the reality, one never bends its smartphone glass

a real test would have been to let an iphone 6 with the glass fall on the ground

what people does most is drop the iphone, not bending the glass :rolleyes:
 
Slap the glass against a flat surface and let's see how well it holds up.

After my iPhone 4 busted, the back glass popped off unaffected, so I tested the strength of it by hitting it with a hammer as hard as I could, but it did nothing. However, I dropped the glass from about 12 inches, flat onto a wooden desk, and the entire glass shattered.

Thats glass for you...

I've been on a building site where they ordered the wrong size glass window, this thing was a good 8ft by 4ft and they had to dispose of it.
A labourer laid it down on the floor with a tarpaulin over it and proceeded to whack a hammer against it as hard as he could. Nothing happened and the hammer just bounced off.
His supervisor told him to tap the hammer on the corner of the glass, end on.
The whole window literally exploded into tiny pieces!

I don't think you can protect glass against impacts to the corners, even car windows can be shattered by levering a screwdriver against a corner.
 
It's easy as hell to tell if something is made out of sapphire or not. Being one of the hardest naturally occurring materials in the world, sapphire (Al2O3) is at 9 on the Mohs scale whereas diamond is at 10. Because of this and some other things, sapphire is one of the best conductors of heat that you are likely to come across. To see how good of a conductor it is for yourself, just take a known piece of sapphire (most commonly found as the crystal on watches over $500 (you can find watches less expensive with sapphire crystals, but generally [there are some exceptions but I'm not going into horologie too deep here] at that price point you should be getting sapphire) and a regular old ice cube. Just take the ice cube and push it into the face of the sapphire, and if it starts melting way faster and more easily than you ever would have imagined it would (try the same with regular glass and see how slow it melts), you got yourself some sapphire.


So just get the people making these videos some ice cubes and compare the way it melts on the old glass panel to the leaked "sapphire" panels and it will be as clear as day if it is made of what they are saying its made of.


If you wear a watch all the time which has a sapphire crystal like I do (99% of the time right now my new Omega Speedmaster Dark Side of the Moon), you can use the same effect as a mildly amusing party trick when you and your/other guests go for a new drink out of the cooler at the same time and they will be like what kind of wizardry is this, lol.
 
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Does anyone else have a feeling that the mockups are not going to look like anything Apple is going to release?

I was looking through the archives about what the iPhone 5 would look like and MacRumors was off lol... any one else feel the same way or are we dead on about what the iPhone 6 is going to look like?

Uummm the iPhone 5 leaked early 2012 .... We knew exactly what it was gonna look like ... 9to5Mac posted the leaked images .

http://9to5mac.com/2012/05/29/photos-black-and-white-next-generation-metal-iphone-backs-mini-dock-taller-screen-moved-earphone-jack-present/
 
Interesting video but why do folks always show the iPhone 6 size by laying it over a 5/5S, hiding the smaller phone - we get that it's bigger. Instead, lay down the new iPhone 6 front panel/mockup/whatever, put a 5S on top, and line them up on two edges, and then shoot a picture straight down, showing exactly how far the 6 sticks out from under the 5S. I sort of get a pretty good idea from this video, since you can see through most of the 6's front panel, but... Pretty please?

Also, doing the "can my thumb reach everywhere?" Test would have been more accurate if that 5S had been put underneath the 6 panel to approximate the thickness.

I know, complain, complain. I'll go back to my cave now.
 
The iPhone 5 is too thin, never mind the iPhone 6. I just hope in making it thinner they do in fact make it stronger somehow.

More importantly, it's too light. Feels like low quality junk. Hoping the 6 gains a little heft, but it's Apple, so I expect their missteps will continue.
 
It's easy as hell to tell if something is made out of sapphire or not. Being one of the hardest naturally occurring materials in the world, sapphire (Al2O3) is at 9 on the Mohs scale whereas diamond is at 10. Because of this and some other things, sapphire is one of the best conductors of heat that you are likely to come across. To see how good of a conductor it is for yourself, just take a known piece of sapphire (most commonly found as the crystal on watches over $500 (you can find watches less expensive with sapphire crystals, but generally [there are some exceptions but I'm not going into horologie too deep here] at that price point you should be getting sapphire) and a regular old ice cube. Just take the ice cube and push it into the face of the sapphire, and if it starts melting way faster and more easily than you ever would have imagined it would (try the same with regular glass and see how slow it melts), you got yourself some sapphire.


So just get the people making these videos some ice cubes and compare the way it melts on the old glass panel to the leaked "sapphire" panels and it will be as clear as day if it is made of what they are saying its made of.


If you wear a watch all the time which has a sapphire crystal like I do (99% of the time right now my new Omega Speedmaster Dark Side of the Moon), you can use the same effect as a mildly amusing party trick when you and your/other guests go for a new drink out of the cooler at the same time and they will be like what kind of wizardry is this, lol.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you just said (nice watch choice too, I have the non dark-side Speedy 9300) .. it is hard to believe that the person making this video could not find a way to test whether or not the display is sapphire or not.

I'm still highly skeptical that sapphire is being used in iPhone 6 production and the fact this guy can't even do a scratch-test between this panel and a panel of gorilla glass is extremely telling.
 
I can see the SC quietly disappearing, and the 4.7" being the new C. By the sounds of it the 4.7" is going to be lower spec anyway.
 
The screen dimensions (height and width, not just diagonal length) are the exact same size as the HTC One (M7). The same size I said was perfect about a year or so ago.
 
Trim your nails before you do a video like this. Being a geek doesn't mean you also have to be a slob.

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LOL, you beat me to that comment by two minutes. I bugged me so much I couldn't watch the video.


Grooooooos. Those manails are a quarter inch. Glad to see I'm not the only freak disturbed by his nails, haha.

It would be nice if the sapphire is on the $200 4.7", not just the "premium" 5.5" model. If not, I think we'll see a mid-year 2015 upgrade of the 4.7" with a sapphire screen. Apple knows how to maximize/milk profits of each product like no one else.
 
Kinda rough on the tech journalist don't you think? IF they had the piece in person, I agree, pretty simple test(s) are available to find out material composition. But they can't analyze a video for composition.

Like rp2011 said, it could be GG. Could even be plastic for all we know. Someone on youtube pointedly asked how did he confirm it was sapphire and no answer from Sonny yet. If Sonny wanted to lend credence to his claim he could simply scratch the glass with a rock like GT Advance did in their video. It wouldn't be definitive but better than bending a panel when the big advantage of sapphire was touted as scratch resistance not flexibility.


On his YouTube channel, Sony posted that another video will be posted on Tuesday. Hopefully something to confirm the material is sapphire. However, it's impossible until the 6's reveal to ascertain whether this screen, even if it is indeed sapphire, is real or just a good fake.
 
Thats glass for you...

I've been on a building site where they ordered the wrong size glass window, this thing was a good 8ft by 4ft and they had to dispose of it.
A labourer laid it down on the floor with a tarpaulin over it and proceeded to whack a hammer against it as hard as he could. Nothing happened and the hammer just bounced off.
His supervisor told him to tap the hammer on the corner of the glass, end on.
The whole window literally exploded into tiny pieces!

I don't think you can protect glass against impacts to the corners, even car windows can be shattered by levering a screwdriver against a corner.

I don't think the screen is 100% sapphire. I get the impression that Apple has some method of adhering an extremely thin layer of sapphire to some other material in order to make the screen less prone to shatter. Scratch-proof and shatter resistant. Nice!
 
On his YouTube channel, Sony posted that another video will be posted on Tuesday. Hopefully something to confirm the material is sapphire. However, it's impossible until the 6's reveal to ascertain whether this screen, even if it is indeed sapphire, is real or just a good fake.

I posted this video in another thread. It could just as easily be Gorilla Glass. This video is over a year old with Gorilla Glass exhibiting the same properties. GG is also flexible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVNI9Kflqw4
 
I posted this video in another thread. It could just as easily be Gorilla Glass. This video is over a year old with Gorilla Glass exhibiting the same properties. GG is also flexible.

Besides the lack of decent scratch testing, along with the way it bends...

The curved edges on these supposedly leaked parts make me think they're not sapphire. It would be a lot of extra effort and waste to carve sapphire that way. (And impressive if it was!)
 
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