It shouldn't matter what the Galaxy S5's battery can or can't do. Apple should want to improve battery life for Apple customer's sake. Battery life is a big problem with smart phones and Apple should be an "innovator" in how to manage battery consumption. They can do it too, considering the battery on the ipad and macbooks are the best.
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I agree. I find it puzzling that Apple is marketing their battery life heavily for laptops and are class leading in this regard but on the same token have a rather average battery life on their iPhones, which is a true mobile device. At least more than a laptop, IMHO.
I hope you are right. But it has to power a huge 5.5" screen, which is probably the biggest power drain in a mobile device. 2500mAh capacity sounds rather low compared to some offerings of the competition with runs batteries of around 3000 mAh.
Exactly. But according to the geniuses on this thread, "how you should use a mobile device" is to leave it sitting on a desk charging all day except for an hour or two of use.
The dichotomy between the laptop team and the cell phone team is shocking. How can 12 hour battery life be a great selling point for a laptop but 18 hour life isn't a great selling point for a phone?
It's not so surprising considering Apple's structure, where AFAIK the different divisions are completely separated from each other and tight internal NDA's prevent the teams from even talking to each other without the threat of termination. I know there must be collaboration on a senior level to sync iOS with OSX but according to glassdoor at the engineer level the teams are completely separated and isolated from each other.
This is a marketing decision though, and you would think that kind of thought process (all day computing!) would be company wide.
No one actually gets those artificial numbers with the 5s though. Its clear in real world use that almost every competitors phone has better battery. The moto x, droid maxx, galaxy s5, lg g3, and one M8 all trounce the iphone in real world battery.
It would be a great selling point if Apple could get the iPhone as thin as this and also get 18-hour life.
If they even have improved battery life over the iPhone 5S, you can bet they will use it as a selling point.
I'm guessing when they weighed increasing the screen size of the iPhone they also discussed the negative impact on user satisfaction if they also significantly increased the weight.
They made the decision to go with thin and light over thick and heavy. No, it won't please everyone, but would everyone be pleased by a chunky iPhone? Certainly not.
If you really think Apple is making a mistake in giving up potential battery life in favor of a phone that's a pleasure to hold in your hand even after several minutes, then there's real money to be made in selling cases that add thickness, weight, and mW-h.
And if you are only stating your own personal preference for girth, heft, and staying power, there is money to be spent on these cases.
At least you acknowledge that your "you can't read BS" was BS and you WERE talking about the battery life. Glad you finally were able to realize that. It makes the conversation slightly easier.
A bigger battery equals better battery life, goo... so is Samsung being pathetic by not making a 1 cm thick phone and missing out on all that battery power? Is google pathetic by instructing whoever to build the Nexus thinner than 2 cm and miss out on all that battery life? Goal posts will be shifted to find the "magical" thickness
.As long as you don't know the battery life, it's pathetic to throw around words like "pathetic" since you simply cannot compare due to missing information. On the other hand it's not surprising to read that stuff from you, business as usual.
In my experience, Apple stores are so busy it's nigh on impossible to get one of the clerks to slow down and answer a question. I've never had one of them try to sell me anything.
No one gets artificial numbers with Android devices either. It wasn't until recently that Android flagships caught up in battery life. The 5S is an old phone now and the outcry of iPhone battery life is overblown.
Take a look at the Samsung Note 3 vs. iPhone in battery size and battery charge time.
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The thing is, not other review site except for anandtech gets these really high times on the iphone. The times on the android devices on the other hand are much closer to real world. I suspect his browsing battery testing involves reloading the same set of pages over and over and the iphone is using cached copies while the android phones are reloading the pages because they assume that if they are loading the page again they want it to be updated.
I never have to worry about my moto x running out and I am a relative heavy user. It also doesn't drain like crazy in low reception areas like the iphone does.
How to make the battery last longer in the Ip6
Use a better processor, with battery software saving instructions. Give the customer a screen resolution that is adequate, ( well less than HD ). Screen uses about 60-80% of battery power. Use 1, instead of 2 backlighting schemes to save power. Provide a link to Mophie.
Use a better processor, with battery software saving instructions. Give the customer a screen resolution that is adequate, ( well less than HD ). Screen uses about 60-80% of battery power. Use 1, instead of 2 backlighting schemes to save power. Provide a link to Mophie.
Sorry - you wrote 'pathetic' after you quoted the battery's capacity in mAH. In any case, we would probably agree that most iPhone users would probably trade off thinness for better battery life.
Without battery voltage... these comparisons are meaningless.
They should be comparing energy storage to charge time.
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The overwhelming majority of people (probably over 99%) have no problem getting though the day (8 to 10 hours) on one charge.
will have made the battery slightly bigger for the slightly bigger screen. That is all.Frankly a big battery is a huge waste. You lug all that around with you every day for years, just for the few times you need 15 hours life? I would much rather have a slimmer lighter phone, and have to find a charge point a few times.
Lighter? The 5s is already so light that i am scared it's going to float up in the air.
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It's not me who is prejudiced. Oh no.
Its not me.
Wanna know who it is?
I'll tell you.
YOU !
It's you that's prejudiced. At least I take the time to type a thoughtful and informative response to your questioning. And all you can do is reply with a one line "So it is just your prejudices."
I still am no closer to understanding if fat people hate thin phones more than thin people hate fat phones, and if there is some natural law beneath these phenomena where an unseen balance is maintained between the hatred of thin phones by fat people and the hatred of fat phones by thin people.
You don't like Science much do you? I can tell that form your unwillingness to engage in this study.
[I'm going to present my theory of what is causing these thin phone haters to be so vocal..]
1) Lets assume that human sapiens are more vocal when they want to try and present their own personalities in a particular way ( even when it is a lie ).
2) It is a feminine attribute to prefer thin light things, such as the new iPhone6. I'm not saying that only ladies like these thin light things, but that anyone ( man or lady or something else ) that has a strong feminine aspect to their personality will prefer the thin light things ( such as new iPhone 6 )
3) We know for a fact, that although people vocally complain about not 'needing' the phones to be so thin and light, they STILL buy them in larger and larger quantities each time a new one is released. This seems to present a strange paradox.
4) I suggest what is happening, is that a lot of people ( probably mainly men ) are embarrassed and shameful about the feminine aspect of their personalities ( Perhaps they live in homophobic/mysoginistic societies ).
Therefore they feel the need to be overly vocal in their pretend hatred of the thin light things ( such as the new iPhone6 )
This is similar to a homosexual man pretending to have a wife for fear of persecution in his society. As he knows that the thin light phone will be arriving soon he can claim that he had no alternative but to purchase it, therefore maintaining his illusion of savage manliness.
5) I've done a full study of ALL the posts in this thread and I can confirm that most of the comments where people are suspiciously vocal about hating thin light things ( such as the new iPhone6) there is almost always additional attempts to display attributes associated with manliness. Such as:
i) If it is any thinner it will break within my man handles ( man hands ), because I am STRONG.
ii) I need a large thick battery because 'I spend many hours in the wilderness' like an ancient man-beast
iii) I do not care if the phone is heavier because I am STRONG (like a man).
iv) I will drop it if it is too small because my hands are so gnarly from years of clutching at rough things (such as branches and rocks ) that anything smooth will just slip away.
v) I need a big battery because my daily life is so full of doing stuff that I consume more energy (than ladies do).
vi) I have large pockets in my trousers, because my trousers are large, because >I< am large ( like a man ).
Yes, everyone that wants a thick heavier phone with a big battery is either a latent misogynist or a repressed homosexual.
Sorry, if that comes across as too blunt, but in the name of Science we need to look at this in a clear rational light.
It's not me who is prejudiced. Oh no.
Its not me.
Wanna know who it is?
I'll tell you.
YOU !
It's you that's prejudiced. At least I take the time to type a thoughtful and informative response to your questioning. And all you can do is reply with a one line "So it is just your prejudices."
I still am no closer to understanding if fat people hate thin phones more than thin people hate fat phones, and if there is some natural law beneath these phenomena where an unseen balance is maintained between the hatred of thin phones by fat people and the hatred of fat phones by thin people.
You don't like Science much do you? I can tell that form your unwillingness to engage in this study.
[I'm going to present my theory of what is causing these thin phone haters to be so vocal..]
1) Lets assume that human sapiens are more vocal when they want to try and present their own personalities in a particular way ( even when it is a lie ).
2) It is a feminine attribute to prefer thin light things, such as the new iPhone6. I'm not saying that only ladies like these thin light things, but that anyone ( man or lady or something else ) that has a strong feminine aspect to their personality will prefer the thin light things ( such as new iPhone 6 )
3) We know for a fact, that although people vocally complain about not 'needing' the phones to be so thin and light, they STILL buy them in larger and larger quantities each time a new one is released. This seems to present a strange paradox.
4) I suggest what is happening, is that a lot of people ( probably mainly men ) are embarrassed and shameful about the feminine aspect of their personalities ( Perhaps they live in homophobic/mysoginistic societies ).
Therefore they feel the need to be overly vocal in their pretend hatred of the thin light things ( such as the new iPhone6 )
This is similar to a homosexual man pretending to have a wife for fear of persecution in his society. As he knows that the thin light phone will be arriving soon he can claim that he had no alternative but to purchase it, therefore maintaining his illusion of savage manliness.
5) I've done a full study of ALL the posts in this thread and I can confirm that most of the comments where people are suspiciously vocal about hating thin light things ( such as the new iPhone6) there is almost always additional attempts to display attributes associated with manliness. Such as:
i) If it is any thinner it will break within my man handles ( man hands ), because I am STRONG.
ii) I need a large thick battery because 'I spend many hours in the wilderness' like an ancient man-beast
iii) I do not care if the phone is heavier because I am STRONG (like a man).
iv) I will drop it if it is too small because my hands are so gnarly from years of clutching at rough things (such as branches and rocks ) that anything smooth will just slip away.
v) I need a big battery because my daily life is so full of doing stuff that I consume more energy (than ladies do).
vi) I have large pockets in my trousers, because my trousers are large, because >I< am large ( like a man ).
Yes, everyone that wants a thick heavier phone with a big battery is either a latent misogynist or a repressed homosexual.
Sorry, if that comes across as too blunt, but in the name of Science we need to look at this in a clear rational light.
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Those that want a thinner phone are at the mercy of Apple creating one.
Those that want a thicker phone and hence bigger battery can add a Morphy case that more than doubles the battery life.
Everybody wins, now stop whinging
Lets put your approach into perspective: To last me an average day without charging you suggest to deactivate a feature that for many (me included) is among the most usefull that the iphone has...this logic does not add up...
I never have to worry about my iphone draining like crazy so what does that say?
