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Apples obscene obsession with thin phones is just disgusting. A few millimeters thicker would provide fabulous benefits. Smartphones are already known as having less than ideal battery life.

With iPhones already being so thin Apple could capitalize on its design expertise, make the next model just thick enough for a robust battery, and users everywhere would rave at the improvement.

Not only that, they'd make competitors look silly and ignorant for not doing the same. Here right in front of Apples face, is an idea so obvious that surely it's been discussed over and over internally. Only the most stubborn and style obsessed within Apple would say no to this opportunity.
 
The battery size, 2500mah is pathetic for a phone size the result of a 5.5" screen compared to the competition.
Weather you think the battery life will be good or not, doesn't matter, facts are facts and a bigger battery means longer battery life no matter the efficiency of the components.

So you ARE talking about the battery life. At least you've come to realize this. Now we just need to know how it will compare to the competition, especially since hard/software both are in Apples hands. And apparently you know more about it since you are comparing it to the competition.
 
It is funny there are so many posts in this thread about the current iPhone having bad battery life, but in the other thread about Samsung's wall huggers ad there are so many posts about how good the iPhone battery is.

Just because the iPhone is better than many phones doesn't make it good enough for all uses. I think you have to truly be an Apple apologist to deny the fact that iPhone users, like all cell phone users, find themselves hunting around for a power cable at the worst time. It has happened to each and everyone of us.

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Apples obscene obsession with thin phones is just disgusting. A few millimeters thicker would provide fabulous benefits. Smartphones are already known as having less than ideal battery life.

With iPhones already being so thin Apple could capitalize on its design expertise, make the next model just thick enough for a robust battery, and users everywhere would rave at the improvement.

Not only that, they'd make competitors look silly and ignorant for not doing the same. Here right in front of Apples face, is an idea so obvious that surely it's been discussed over and over internally. Only the most stubborn and style obsessed within Apple would say no to this opportunity.

Exactly. Give us double the battery life of the competition and you will have a 50 million strong salesforce out there screaming from the rooftops about how much they love their iPhones compared to other models. Shave off 1 mm and do you really think anyone is going to be impressed? What do you think is going to happen at the bar at 11 PM, everyone is going to take their phone out of the case, put it flat down on the table and measure it? No. But the user who has 50% battery life left while all the other phone users have 10% or a dead phone will definitely be causing jealousy.
 
It is funny there are so many posts in this thread about the current iPhone having bad battery life, but in the other thread about Samsung's wall huggers ad there are so many posts about how good the iPhone battery is.

I think the other thread is full of very accurate comments. iPhone battery life/performance is pretty damn exceptional already thanks to the many optimisations baked right into iOS.

This thread has just given a few people the ability to vent and they have grabbed that opportunity unfortunately. :(

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Apples obscene obsession with thin phones is just disgusting. A few millimeters thicker would provide fabulous benefits. Smartphones are already known as having less than ideal battery life.

"Disgusting" really? Come on. Most of us love Apple for the way they obsess about weight, thinness and beauty.

If you want a big thick ugly phone with a massive battery then there are many options out there for you. Unfortunately for you the Apple iPhone is unlikely to ever be one of those options.
 
I'd still like to know what people are doing differently with their iPhones that is causing battery life to be such an issue.

I consider myself a pretty hardcore user with music/video media consumption as well as blog posting and social media marketing. All day long. And I may plug my phone in late afternoon when battery is at 50-65% just to top it off. And then I don't plug it in again until bedtime.

Am I doing something unique with my phone that is providing me with unusually long battery life? Am I the only one who has access to wifi nearly every where I go? Is my carriers signal only full bars where I live?

Please enlighten me. I feel so left out. I want to have crappy battery life just like all the cool kids. ;)
 
Was in the news today in UK.

If you try and get onto a flight to USA and your mobile phone (or other device) has no batter power, then you will not be able to fly.

New rules
 
Was in the news today in UK.

If you try and get onto a flight to USA and your mobile phone (or other device) has no batter power, then you will not be able to fly.

New rules

oH NoeZ!!! :eek: Here comes more wall huggers.

With the new law and iPhone 6 presumably having a small battery, I gotta say Samsung timed their commercial perfectly.
 
Every time I visit the Apple store I'm asked, "May I help you with anything?". I say no, and move on. I have never been "hassled" into buying an iPhone nor anything Apple.

I haven't been hassled into buying iPhone either. Don't own iPhone.

One Apple employee told me she is going to sell me an iPhone. I politely said I was not interested. Her facial expression got harsh as she said " so you are a customer who comes in but never buys anything". I offered no response to that stupidity.

In the six months prior to that Apple store visit I bought a Mac, iPad mini and iPod Touch.

This store was not always this way. There were many years it was fun to stop in. Now I avoid it.
 
One handed operability and overall weight is still a priority for Apple and by using thinner chassis it helps to counter the increased width and height of the 4.7" display. A thinner chassis provides an overall smaller grip area and allows the thumb to reach further into the outer corner of the screen. Not a problem to those with bigger hands but not everyone has big hands.

Smaller battery also means lighter phone.

We don't know what type of display Apple will using. Even if there's an increased in pixel density, there's other method for efficiency (the backlight, for example). Also to rumour is that instead of 1080p, Apple has wisely chosen less pixel (1704*960) and that's almost 500k pixel (0.5MP) less than most Android phones.

While the move from 28nm in the A7 to 20nm node in the A8 will be bring some measured improvement in power efficiency.
 
Every time I visit the Apple store I'm asked, "May I help you with anything?". I say no, and move on. I have never been "hassled" into buying an iPhone nor anything Apple.

Really I'm quite baffled that I only ever gotten asked this once per trip, regardless of how busy it is. Even if I make it to the back without getting stopped I only ever end up getting asked once, after which they leave me alone. It's actually kind of strange.
 
They have. They're just not YOUR priorities.
This time maybe not. They are aiming at health and fitness apps this time and both fields are very battery consuming.
I still hope they have something up their sleeves...
 
Anyone who has actually use their phone to the point where they are unhappy with the battery will tell you that the processor has almost nothing to do with power usage. It is the cellular modem that uses the most battery power. If you turn off 3G, your battery lasts forever. That's why incremental improvements to the processor are of no consequence to those of us who want more battery life.

Nonsense, 3G barely uses any power... now 4G on the other hand, you turn it off and the phone magically turns immortal! :p
 
And the CIA comes and throws you in a Black Site.

oH NoeZ!!! :eek: Here comes more wall huggers.

With the new law and iPhone 6 presumably having a small battery, I gotta say Samsung timed their commercial perfectly.

It was due to security/terror threats.

You must be able to show any electronic device (phone) to be working.
If you phone is dead, you will be detained, and not be able to fly they said.

Esp worse for those on long haul is you have drained your phone during some part of the journey already.

So yes, Battery life NOW, is very much in today's media
 
It was due to security/terror threats.

You must be able to show any electronic device (phone) to be working.
If you phone is dead, you will be detained, and not be able to fly they said.

Esp worse for those on long haul is you have drained your phone during some part of the journey already.

So yes, Battery life NOW, is very much in today's media
That isn't how the press release reads. Here is it from the TSA Press Release
"As the traveling public knows, all electronic devices are screened by security officers. During the security examination, officers may also ask that owners power up some devices, including cell phones. Powerless devices will not be permitted onboard the aircraft. The traveler may also undergo additional screening."
http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2014/07/06/enhanced-security-measures-certain-airports-overseas
 
The battery size, 2500mah is pathetic for a phone size the result of a 5.5" screen compared to the competition.
Weather you think the battery life will be good or not, doesn't matter, facts are facts and a bigger battery means longer battery life no matter the efficiency of the components.

These are not "facts" Bigger battery does not equal longer life.

so lets say you have a 3500mAh battery in a device that draws 1000mA. This battery is Clearly 40% larger than this theoretical 2500mAh Iphone battery, so it will last 24 hours at least right? Wrong! only 3.5 Hours in this case (given the draw)

The Battery life (in hours) of a device cannot be derived from ONLY it's capacity. You NEED to know both the capacity and the amp draw.

this is like saying horsepower is horsepower and 300hp >> 200hp. so therefore anything with 300hp is de facto faster.
Well, unless you have a 200hp Civic and a 300hp F250 Super Duty.
 
Do they REALLY need to be thinner (and lighter)?? I don't know about you guys, but when I pick up my iPhone 5 I've never once thought "damn I wish this was thinner and lighter". Has anyone here ever had that thought?

I'd take more battery power over thinner and lighter any day.
 
So you ARE talking about the battery life. At least you've come to realize this. Now we just need to know how it will compare to the competition, especially since hard/software both are in Apples hands. And apparently you know more about it since you are comparing it to the competition.

There is nothing we need to know other then what I have said already, multiple times, FACT is a bigger battery equals better battery life, and Apple are going to miss a trick if they put a pathetically sized one in a 5.5" iPhone because Ive is obsessed with 0.2mm.

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These are not "facts" Bigger battery does not equal longer life.

so lets say you have a 3500mAh battery in a device that draws 1000mA. This battery is Clearly 40% larger than this theoretical 2500mAh Iphone battery, so it will last 24 hours at least right? Wrong! only 3.5 Hours in this case (given the draw)

The Battery life (in hours) of a device cannot be derived from ONLY it's capacity. You NEED to know both the capacity and the amp draw.

this is like saying horsepower is horsepower and 300hp >> 200hp. so therefore anything with 300hp is de facto faster.
Well, unless you have a 200hp Civic and a 300hp F250 Super Duty.

So you've stated that a bigger battery will last longer, then tried to argue how it won't? What a confusing post :confused:

And I never stated how much longer a bigger battery will last.
 
I'm fine with modest battery boost for a thinner design. I'm not being sarcastic and I understand I may be in the minority on this one.
 
There is nothing we need to know other then what I have said already, multiple times, FACT is a bigger battery equals better battery life, and Apple are going to miss a trick if they put a pathetically sized one in a 5.5" iPhone because Ive is obsessed with 0.2mm.
Ive is dedicated. And diligent. You are obsessed. Completely and utterly obsessed. It's all you can think about. It's a sickness, how obsessed you are.

Ive is uncompromising in the pursuit of his worthy goal.
 
Yes, but you are missing my top preference. I don't want to put a case on my phone that makes it twice as thick. Is that hard to understand? I want 50% or 100% better battery life without having to add additional layers to my phone. It seems reasonable that the phone could be made maybe two or 3 mm thicker and make the battery that much bigger because of how much of the phone is not battery.
Because I, a various amount of other people and most importantly APPLE want thinner devices. If the device is thinner what's wrong with putting a case on it and then it becomes the same thickness as the 4th gen models?



I did not say that. In fact, I was unhappy with the feel of the five model after the solid and substantial feel of the four models. I would love it if the six with the same thickness and Heft as the four.
If you want the 6 to be the same thickness of the 4 then you want a thicker phone than the 5. Apple doesn't want that and neither would I, it's about progression. If it was the same size as the 4 then it's as step backwards.



Only history tells me that that won't happen. Every year they have come out with a newer phone with a slightly larger battery, and in the end I get the same amount of life out of it. By about four in the afternoon I have maybe 20% remaining if I don't charge it as the day proceeds.
Actually battery life has increased every year in some manner for the iPhone models, they're not huge increases but they are never less. Sometimes the increase is only in video playback or music playback but every version of the iPhone has had increased battery life than the previous model. Look it up. I'd post a link but wasn't able to find an all in one simplified statistical guide. Go ahead and find links to prove me wrong though because you won't find any.

Your turn. What evidence do you have that this year, the eighth model of iPhone will be different than each of the seven that came before it? You sound very confident so you must have some reason other than your wild ass guess.
Because as I stated above, battery life has increased (even if incrementally) with every revision of the iPhone. On top of that they've nailed the speed factor of the A7. They don't need to make it any faster (they're not even using it to it's full capacity yet) so the only real improvement is to make it smaller and use less power. Also they'll speed it up on the "S" version.

I would love to know what makes you confident about that, since you just described what has happened with every previous iPhone model, and the battery life has never gotten significantly better than the previous version. And after seven versions of minor differences up or down, we are basically where we were back then as far as overall usage time for my typical usage.
Battery life will increase slightly... I never said it would increase exponentially... You'll probably get an extra hour or video extra hour or 2 of surfing, extra 4 hours of music, etc. Just like always.

Apple is actually very smart about this; why make the battery life longer when they make money for every "Made for Apple" battery charging product that goes out? Especially since now that they've implemented software code that won't let you charge your iPhone on a lightning connector that isn't certified.

Me I'm satisfied with the battery life. I charge my phone while I'm at work and use it when I'm on the go.
Like you're supposed to do with mobile devices.:cool:

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Apples obscene obsession with thin phones is just disgusting. A few millimeters thicker would provide fabulous benefits. Smartphones are already known as having less than ideal battery life.

With iPhones already being so thin Apple could capitalize on its design expertise, make the next model just thick enough for a robust battery, and users everywhere would rave at the improvement.

Not only that, they'd make competitors look silly and ignorant for not doing the same. Here right in front of Apples face, is an idea so obvious that surely it's been discussed over and over internally. Only the most stubborn and style obsessed within Apple would say no to this opportunity.

They also make money when you buy Apple certified accessories like a Morphie case. ;)
 
Urgh.


Those of us who said that the 5 had focused too much on thinness rather than battery have been proven right. So let's double down on the mistake!
 
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