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Everyone keeps commenting on how the processor and software will be battery optimized. Too bad its the display that is always the biggest battery hog and there is little you can do to stop that.
 
Other than your obvious prejudices is there any reason to bring up 'fat' people in a discussion of iPhone batteries?

I thought it would be obvious, but obviously it isn't obvious so obviously I'm going to have to explain it more fully.

I don't understand why people don't like thin phones, I don't understand why they say they will drop them if they are thinner, and I don't understand why people that want thicker heavier phones with more battery life don't just put their phones in thicker heavier battery cases.

I'm clutching at straws here, but I thought perhaps the people who don't like, and can't properly hold onto, a thinner iPhone might themselves be extremely fat.

The reason being:

a) if they have a hand composed of 'fat little piggies' ( by which I mean fingers ) then perhaps this disables their clutching abilities, and thus the phone will fall to the floor. This could also explain why they don't purchase a case for the thinner iPhone, because they don't have the manual dexterity to get the phone into the case in the first place.

b) maybe human sapiens tend to like things that are proportional to their own bodies. So thin people like thin phones, people with tiny tiny feet like phones with a tiny tiny home button. People with evil looking red eyes that bleed in the night, like evil looking iPhones with red LEDs that bleed in the night.

etc..
 
Because I, a various amount of other people and most importantly APPLE want thinner devices. If the device is thinner what's wrong with putting a case on it and then it becomes the same thickness as the 4th gen models?

Because that's far from true. When I put my 5S into my mophie air case, it becomes substantially thicker than the thickest iPhone ever. It looks like a pathetic android phone.

Battery life will increase slightly... I never said it would increase exponentially... You'll probably get an extra hour or video extra hour or 2 of surfing, extra 4 hours of music, etc. Just like always.

You clearly haven't thought this through very deeply. If the iPhone has gotten even an hour more surfing and phone time in every increment, forget it, even a half hour, we are now on the eighth increment, so how many hours did the original iPhone last? I have had every one, so I know. Every iPhone has lasted, in my use pattern which has not changed significantly, almost exactly the same amount of time. It is dead by five or 6 PM if I don't charge it at all during the day. If every model had been getting longer battery life than the one before it, we would have 12 to 16 hour battery life already, and I would actually be pleased with the battery life.

Me I'm satisfied with the battery life. I charge my phone while I'm at work and use it when I'm on the go.
Like you're supposed to do with mobile devices.:cool:


I must've missed the day when they told us all what we were supposed to do with mobile devices.

If you sit at a desk all day bathing in Wi-Fi or not moving from 3G tower to 3G Tower, you frankly have no idea what users do experience. So I'm glad you're satisfied with your battery life, but your opinion is not applicable to most of the 400 comments on this thread, which are apparently from people who are doing it wrong.
 
That isn't how the press release reads. Here is it from the TSA Press Release
"As the traveling public knows, all electronic devices are screened by security officers. During the security examination, officers may also ask that owners power up some devices, including cell phones. Powerless devices will not be permitted onboard the aircraft. The traveler may also undergo additional screening."
http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2014/07/06/enhanced-security-measures-certain-airports-overseas

Yes, and your flight will be leaving, whilst you are undergoing the additional screening they warned.
 
The 5s does ok when it's a new, fresh device. But unfortunately, as I'm sure we've all experienced, it's battery life gets worse over time.

Oh, you mean like EVERY BATTERY EVER?

This is due to a combination of several reasons:

  • iPhone's battery degrades and loses its capacity quite quickly as it ages. MacBooks and iPads don't seem to have this problem nearly so badly, so perhaps it's due to the small size of the battery. Only fix is to replace the battery every 12 months or so.
  • Various databases on the phone, for things like location tracking, grow continuously and seem to consume more background CPU over time. This can be worked around by restoring the device to factory state periodically, but that's a pain and we shouldn't have to do it.
  • Each new OS release runs slightly slower and demands a little more CPU, resulting in reduced battery life. This is something they've addressed in Mac OS: Mountain Lion actually had better battery life than its predecessors. So, it would be good if Apple could pay more attention to this in iOS.
  • As you install more apps, more background tasks start running and the CPU drains quicker. Can be worked around by keeping as few apps as possible on the phone, or disabling background app refresh.

Absolute rubbish. I have 142 apps on my phone and my battery runs great. I have never had to restore my phone to factory settings. You've probly got one app that runs in the background with a memory leak and so all iPhones have crappy batteries? You've gotta be kidding me!
 
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iPhone 7S
 
Why not show the more recent Galaxy S5 review instead of a review that came out 9 months ago if your goal is to compare the competition? You will see that Samsung made a decent jump in battery life when comparing the S4 and S5 and the S5 beats out all the iPhones. Even the review you have listed shows that the older iPhone 5 beats the iPhone 5s in some test. Not comforting that Apple regressed in some spots.

I had linked elsewhere in this thread to AnandTech's most recent smartphone review and meant to do the same here. But that doesn't mean there is anything to hide. The iPhone still does great in battery performance testing. And the S5 came out just two months ago with nearly twice the battery size of the 5s with only modest gains while the iPhone 6 is right around the corner. So what's your point?
 
Given the new TSA regulations about requiring phones to have charge to be allowed on flights, I can see alot of these phones ending their lives being blown up in remote sand bunkers.

More sales for Apple!! :apple:
 
What I have noticed is how crappy my battery life became under ios7 on the iPhone 5. I can't picture it being different on the new iPhone. Ios7 is a huge battery drainer, imessaging for instance became a huge battery drainer.
 
Oh, you mean like EVERY BATTERY EVER?

I have a MacBook Air purchased in December 2010 that still gets great battery life.

I have an iPad 2 purchased the very first day they were released that still gets great battery life.

But my 18-month iPhone 5 can barely go half a day of moderate use without crapping out.

That's with the brightness turned down, and background app refresh turned off globally.

It wasn't like this when it was new.
 
Id take this with a grain of salt until we see the product. Let's not forget the new A8 will also be much less power hungry at 20nm vs the current 28nm A7.

Considering every iPhone in recent years had yielded very modest to no battery life gains, and plenty of those iterations had more efficient processors, I don't think much salt is needed. The screen is going to be using the most energy by far, and not only is it larger with a bigger backlight, it's going to be higher resolution as well, inherently requiring more power for itself, and more processor time to drive those pixels. You'd need a revolutionary breakthrough in efficiency to overcome those tradeoffs if you're expecting any significant gains in run-time over the 5S if the capacity rumors are indeed accurate.
 
There is nothing we need to know other then what I have said already, multiple times, FACT is a bigger battery equals better battery life, and Apple are going to miss a trick if they put a pathetically sized one in a 5.5" iPhone because Ive is obsessed with 0.2mm.

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So you've stated that a bigger battery will last longer, then tried to argue how it won't? What a confusing post :confused:

And I never stated how much longer a bigger battery will last.

Sorry that I was confusing: the statment I made "so it will last 24 hours at least right? Wrong!" implied that IT WILL NOT last longer, hence the "wrong!" at the end of the statement.

Sorry that you missed it.

Perhaps you also missed my other statements (that followed directly below) that talked about capacity and draw.


I'll try to reiterate my point again:

No one can determine the "battery life" in hours with ONLY knowing the capacity. you NEED to know BOTH the capacity and the amp DRAW; which no one knows for the next Iphone, so therefore no one can compare it to other phones.


Maybe the next Iphone has a 2500mAh battery and only has an average amp draw of 75mA (not likely) then that "pathetic" 2500mAh battery would last about 33 Hours!.

IN FACT; to me, it seems that a phone that can go longer on less charge would be a better choice, as it would take less time to charge and cost less to charge as well
 
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I thought it would be obvious, but obviously it isn't obvious so obviously I'm going to have to explain it more fully.

I don't understand why people don't like thin phones, I don't understand why they say they will drop them if they are thinner, and I don't understand why people that want thicker heavier phones with more battery life don't just put their phones in thicker heavier battery cases.

I'm clutching at straws here, but I thought perhaps the people who don't like, and can't properly hold onto, a thinner iPhone might themselves be extremely fat.

The reason being:

a) if they have a hand composed of 'fat little piggies' ( by which I mean fingers ) then perhaps this disables their clutching abilities, and thus the phone will fall to the floor. This could also explain why they don't purchase a case for the thinner iPhone, because they don't have the manual dexterity to get the phone into the case in the first place.

b) maybe human sapiens tend to like things that are proportional to their own bodies. So thin people like thin phones, people with tiny tiny feet like phones with a tiny tiny home button. People with evil looking red eyes that bleed in the night, like evil looking iPhones with red LEDs that bleed in the night.

etc..

The post was dumb the first time and it's even dumber the second go round.:eek:
 
Considering every iPhone in recent years had yielded very modest to no battery life gains, and plenty of those iterations had more efficient processors, I don't think much salt is needed. The screen is going to be using the most energy by far, and not only is it larger with a bigger backlight, it's going to be higher resolution as well, inherently requiring more power for itself, and more processor time to drive those pixels. You'd need a revolutionary breakthrough in efficiency to overcome those tradeoffs if you're expecting any significant gains in run-time over the 5S if the capacity rumors are indeed accurate.

however, the fact that the battery size has only increased modestly (about 12% over last 6 years), and the run-time has remained the same (or slight increase) the 5s is something like 50 TIMES more powerful that the first gen Iphone, speaks wonders for the improvement sin efficiency.


Though suggests that apple is targeting the same/simmilar run time with it's next phones
 
however, the fact that the battery size has only increased modestly (about 12% over last 6 years), and the run-time has remained the same (or slight increase) the 5s is something like 50 TIMES more powerful that the first gen Iphone, speaks wonders for the improvement sin efficiency.


Though suggests that apple is targeting the same/simmilar run time with it's next phones

Except that's a stretch of 6 years vs 1.
 
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but looking at some battery life tests between the Galaxy s5 and the Iphone 5s, it appears that the Galaxy (in the specific tests performed) consumes between 1.70 - 1.87 Times the amps on average compared to the Iphone 5s (per gsmarena.com comparison)

so this equates to the Iphone 5s, with its battery on 55% of the size of an GS5 can actually handle about 20 minutes (3%) MORE web browsing and only about 30 Minutes less video (4%)

so these devices are essentially equivalent even though, again, the iphone only has 55% of the battery
 
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but looking at some battery life tests between the Galaxy s5 and the Iphone 5s, it appears that the Galaxy (in the specific tests performed) consumes between 1.70 - 1.87 Times the amps on average compared to the Iphone 5s (per gsmarena.com comparison)

so this equates to the Iphone 5s, with its battery on 55% of the size of an GS5 can actually handle about 20 minutes (3%) MORE web browsing and only about 30 Minutes less video (4%)

so these devices are essentially equivalent even though, again, the iphone only has 55% of the battery

Now look at other metrics like talk time/hot spot tethering and you'll see that the iPhone gets blown away. Essentially anything that doesn't require the screen to be on consistently. Things are a little closer when screens are on, but the iPhone doesn't look good comparatively until the screen is on AND there are graphics being processed which does not bode well for a larger iPhone and marginal battery improvement.
 
Apple should really get their priorities straight. :confused:

They have. They will make the iPhone as thin and light as possible with reasonable battery life instead of a bit thicker with great battery life. To Apple, the form factor is more important than battery life. And the consumer will complain but buy the phone in record numbers anyway.
 
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