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3 points...

1) A8 processor should be more battery efficient
2) iOS8 has more battery saving tricks
3) This is a Rumor site, so none of this can be taken as fact.

I'm a "heavy user" on my 5S and generally don't have a problem with battery life.

I think with the updated hardware & software, plus a slight capacity bump, battery life will be equal to competitors.
 
At the rate Apple is going, the iPhone 10 (2018) version will thinner than a pencil.

nah, the keynote will go like this...

phill steps on stage

this is the new iPhone 10 or as we like to call it the iPhone 1.0

phill holds up his hand

there are murmurs round the room

wtf?!?

huh?!?

phill breaks the uncomfortableness

*cough* this is our thinness lightest achievement yet, its so thin you can hardly see it

shouted from the crowd

its air you prick!!! its the Emperors New iPhone

Phill Shiller

and its available now running iOS Badger

2 minutes later on release day

Apple fans cue round the block. Apple sells thin air proving once and for all people are iDiots if the marketing is right.
 
Does the iPhone really need to be thinner?

It's a deadly combination of number game like mega pixels in camera where beyond a certain mega pixels, where it won't matter to most of us AND a design obsession that satisfies themselves without making much meaningful difference to most of us. Yeah, I'll take as thick as 5s phone with slightly heavier 6 than with a suckier battery any day of the week.
 
nah, the keynote will go like this...

phill steps on stage

this is the new iPhone 10 or as we like to call it the iPhone 1.0

phill holds up his hand

there are murmurs round the room

wtf?!?

huh?!?

phill breaks the uncomfortableness

*cough* this is our thinness lightest achievement yet, its so thin you can hardly see it

shouted from the crowd

its air you prick!!! its the Emperors New iPhone

Phill Shiller

and its available now running iOS Badger

2 minutes later on release day

Apple fans cue round the block. Apple sells thin air proving once and for all people are iDiots if the marketing is right.

If you have plans to give up your daytime job to pursue a career as comedian...


Don't do it :cool:
 
Last one was - previous was a clean install. Leaving it in Airplane mode lets it go all day so it just drains when using 4G signal or searching. iPhone's have never been great tbf, but the 5S is the King of battery drain for me.

Umm... iPhones are consistently great performers regarding battery life at the time of release. Even the recent iPhone 5s tested quite well despite previous iPhone releases fairing better:

AnandTech iPhone 5s Review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/9

If it isn't a hardware problem, it's 3rd party software. A distant 3rd might be cellular congestion in areas like NYC.
 
Exactly. Battery life is a function of battery capacity, component efficiency, and software optimization. Just plopping in bigger and bigger batteries without improving the other two just makes a heavier device-- the exact opposite of what you want in a mobile device.

All those complaining about Apple's supposed obsession with thinness conveniently ignore that bigger devices have a tendency to weigh more-- and Apple is right to try to keep the weight of the large screen devices down.

I understand what you’re saying but the rumored plan is that it will be slimmer. Even if the battery is bigger (due to the increase in width and length) and you make the cpu more energy efficient you still have a larger display with greater resolution to light up. It’s still too early and we don’t have all the details yet but my guess is that Apple is aiming for iPhone 5ish battery life which is a disappointment. I personally want to hear a 25% to 50% increase when their on stage but that will not happen.
Better invest in a battery case.
 
Yes.

I won't use a case on my iPhone 5 because that makes it too thick for my liking.

Are you serious?

It's a deadly combination of number game like mega pixels in camera where beyond a certain mega pixels, where it won't matter to most of us AND a design obsession that satisfies themselves without making much meaningful difference to most of us. Yeah, I'll take as thick as 5s phone with slightly heavier 6 than with a suckier battery any day of the week.

As would most people, I think.
 
Typical thinking, looking at things from only the outside. If these numbers ARE true, that's almost a 35% increase in battery size. Not too bad.

I guarantee the A8 this year will instead be focusing on massive energy optimization rather than any significant performance improvements, considering how much of the A7 hasn't been fully utilized by iOS apps.

This is Apples approach. Optimize the components that use the most energy instead of just stuffing a massive battery inside. Apple wants to make the battery as small as they possibly can, not as big. Notice that elaborate "environment" page on Apple's website? That shows you all you need to see Apple's approach to this.
 
How about a nuclear powered phone? You could take a few grains of plutonium and, with technology available today, build a mini "reactor" the size of a couple of AA batteries. Similar to the tech that powers a few recent space probes - only a lot smaller because a lot less power is needed.

I hear it is actually theoretically possible with some new experimental stuff going on. Of course, don't drop the phone and have it break open - or you'll die from inhaling a few grains of plutonium :D LOL, a tad of a high risk, but imagine the battery life - you would never need to charge it. Ever.
 
"The iPhone is thin enough as it is!" As soon as you pick up an iPhone 6 when it's released you'll change your minds, just like you have done every other year since 2007.
Incorrect. I would rather have more battery life in my 5S than have it be thinner than the 4.
 
Honestly the new Samsung commercial showing all the iPhone users tethered to the wall should sting Apple big time.

Perhaps if this commercial had come out two years ago when they started designing this set of iPhones it might matter. But it didn't and Apple isn't about to change their plans this late in the game.

All the ad might do is change up how they present the new hardware. We will likely see a lot of mentions of how this and that make the phone more power efficient. To the point of being nausea inducing.
 
It's weird how some people have to charge their phones multiple times PER DAY, yet others can go the entire day and still have >20% battery remaining.

Personally, I do find myself being careful with iPhone usage. If I use it a lot in the day (stream a lot of content from YouTube via 4G, for example) I'm aware that it will be very low on my way home from work.

To be honest, disabling Facebook and Mail's ability to fetch data in the background helped. I don't need a push notification for every new email, not at the cost of reduced battery life.
 
The two aren't mutually exclusive. After the 4 I would have rather had the 5 be the same thickness and more battery. After the 5 I would rather have the 6 be the same thickness as the 5 and more battery.

I would ALSO rather have the 6 be the same thickness as the **4** with MORE battery.

I'm also happy with a 6 that is THICKER than the 4 with MORE MORE MORE battery.

All of those options would still be thinner, AND give me MORE battery, than my current 5S + mophie air.

In theory wouldn't an iPhone 6 with a Morphie be thinner than a 5/5S with a Morphie? Since the phone itself will be thinner the case of equal thickness through out would; in total, be thinner all around. You said it yourself with every generation you enjoy the svelte lines of the newest iPhone but wish it had better battery life. Who's to even say that the A8/M8 combo won't give you 50% more battery life (or who's to say it won't give you the same)? But the battery will be bigger on both next gen models, even with the larger screen sucking up more power.

It's more likely that we will get better battery life in general though; being that both the battery will be larger and (based on previous history) the A8 will be more power efficient.
 
I could easily see Apple doing away with screws in the name of more glue in the quest for thinness.

Apple has invested too much time and money in their iPhone modular repair program to dump it now. Especially with the good PR it gets for being more environmentally friendly.

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For those times...there's Mophie.

Only time I use my phone enough to be an issue is at Disneyland. And yes I have a mophie pack in my bag.

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If true. Gonna be BIG problem. :eek: :apple:

Or it won't because 80% of users aren't super geeks or teenage girls that need to be on their phone all the time.
 
Are you serious?

Of course.

I am firmly in the "make it thinner, please" camp. I can't wait to see how thin it gets every passing year. The best part is how thick the previous model always feel after you start using the new one.

The only time I've ever felt short on battery is when I'm obsessed with some new game (the latest being Battleheart: Legacy), but I can't fault the design of the phone for the performance of an application that is designed to exploit hardware (i.e. most any game).
 
Now I shouldn't use my iPhone because it'll use the battery? WTF :confused:

No I'm saying that you have to be on it for literally hours in order to drain the battery before evening.

You know how long the battery lasts so if you drain it before lunch it's your own fault.

There are ways of extended your battery too without impacting the usability of the device (basically just turning the stuff off that you don't need/use), but last time I posted some tips to help do this I got hounded by people saying stuff like "I shouldn't have to cripple my device in order to get a decent battery life out of it" so I won't bother trying to help out again :(
 
3 points...

1) A8 processor should be more battery efficient
2) iOS8 has more battery saving tricks
3) This is a Rumor site, so none of this can be taken as fact.

A revised 3 points:

1) A8 processor should be more battery efficient
2) iOS8 has more battery saving tricks
3) Taller & wider phones will have the space for a bigger battery, especially if that added space is not eaten up by trying to maximize the 'how thin can we make it' mentality.

Then that more battery efficient A8 + battery-saving tricks of iOS8 + bigger battery deliver even more benefit from #1 & #2.

It's not an either-or situation. We don't lose #1 and/or #2 by also including the new #3, very much as delivering on the wish for a bigger battery doesn't automatically require "thicker" or "fatter" than 5s.
 
If you have plans to give up your daytime job to pursue a career as comedian...


Don't do it :cool:

what didn't you like :D

the bits I got right are iPhone 10 to be called iPhone 1.0 and iOS be released called iOS Badger :D:D;)

of course you'd never fall for buying thin air ;):p:D
 
No I'm saying that you have to be on it for literally hours in order to drain the battery before evening.

You know how long the battery lasts so if you drain it before lunch it's your own fault.

There are ways of extended your battery too without impacting the usability of the device (basically just turning the stuff off that you don't need/use), but last time I posted some tips to help do this I got hounded by people saying stuff like "I shouldn't have to cripple my device in order to get a decent battery life out of it" so I won't bother trying to help out again :(

I'm sure your input was useful but in the same breath these phones are advertised to do A. So they should do it efficiently without having to disable A to achieve a reasonable battery life.
 
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