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Of course.

I am firmly in the "make it thinner, please" camp. I can't wait to see how thin it gets every passing year. The best part is how thick the previous model always feel after you start using the new one.

The only time I've ever felt short on battery is when I'm obsessed with some new game (the latest being Battleheart: Legacy), but I can't fault the design of the phone for the performance of an application that is designed to exploit hardware (i.e. most any game).

So you're thinking they should make it thinner, while they're also likely making the screen bigger which will draw more power, and only give it a slightly bigger battery? I'd be surprised, if they did actually make the screen 4.7", if people even got the same battery life as the 5S.

All for love of thin.

Don't you understand that a computer can be too thin?
 
For iPhone, real world performance does not matter. All it needs is for Tim Cook to announce that it gives 15 hrs battery and AnandTech is already there to support whatever Tim Cook says so they are fine with that..
 
I second his - mine came off charge at 8.30am and I've just plugged it back in on 14%. I've made 1 20min phone call, sent 3 iMessages and listened to my offline Deezer playlists (no internet required). It's shocking.

If that's really all you've done, then there's something very wrong with your particular phone. That's maybe 10-20% of the battery life you should be getting.

Personally, I am quite happy with both the current state of battery life and thinness. Any improvements to either are welcome, but I don't see either as an issue on my iphone 5.
 
Honestly the new Samsung commercial showing all the iPhone users tethered to the wall should sting Apple big time.

I don't really see why. Battery tests show similar performance between the latest Android and iOS phones:
AnandTech: iPhone 5s Review

The difference is in how people use their phone, or whether they use it much at all. This goes back to the discrepancy between market share and web presence:
Usage Share of Operating Systems: Mobile Devices

If you're not using your phone, then keeping it charged isn't a very big deal.
 
One must not forget that the A8 will most likely be more energy-efficient and the display will also most likely not use up all the additional battery capacity.
Especially 2500mAh sounds quite promising actually.

This. The process shrink will deliver lower power consumption.
 
I'm sure your input was useful but in the same breath these phones are advertised to do A. So they should do it efficiently without having to disable A to achieve a reasonable battery life.

The battery life is already decent, I was just trying to help squeeze an extra bit out of your device for those who expect more.

They are advertised as being able to do A, B, C and D but if you only use A + B then there's no harm in switching off C + D to extend the battery life.
 
Just like Haswell focussed on battery life rather than performance, I hope the A8 does the same.

I have a silly feeling, from the way Apple showed the exponential graph showing performance double each time when the A7 was announced, they will change focus now that the exponential nature of that improvement seems overkill. It's been 2x faster for at least a couple of generations now... Maybe it'll be more like 1.33 or 1.5x faster but 2x more efficient?
 
How about a nuclear powered phone? You could take a few grains of plutonium and, with technology available today, build a mini "reactor" the size of a couple of AA batteries. Similar to the tech that powers a few recent space probes - only a lot smaller because a lot less power is needed.

I hear it is actually theoretically possible with some new experimental stuff going on. Of course, don't drop the phone and have it break open - or you'll die from inhaling a few grains of plutonium :D LOL, a tad of a high risk, but imagine the battery life - you would never need to charge it. Ever.

It would work. There were pacemakers made in a similar way in the 1970s. They've all been returned to the manufacturer now though. It was really important for mortitians of the time to not cremate those folks without pulling the device first.
 
I'm averaging 2 days and 9 hours on my moto droid maxx. If I can't get that with the new iphone I guess I will continue staying with android. Only reason I have not gone to an iPhone is screen size and battery life.
 
Well, any little bit helps.

I am worried about the structural integrity of such a thin device though.
 
Look at all the hype with the Moto Razr phones (either the original ones or the current models). MUCH of that had to do with the thin, sleek form-factor.

If you're willing to carry around a big, heavy "brick" of a phone, you can have all the battery life you need. But people generally don't want that (and it really makes more sense to just sell it in the form of a big battery case, for those who DO want it).

I'm not saying Apple shouldn't keep long battery life as an important goal .... but just saying I consider it a step forward if the iPhone 6 is slimmer than my 5s and still has the same or slightly better battery life.

Actually thats a terrible comparison. Motorola offered both a regular droid razr and a razr maxx. The maxx outsold the regular one buy a giant margin, proving that consumers will take extra thickness for better battery.
 
Does the iPhone really need to be thinner?

I like how one can artificially trivialize a whole new design with one word" "thinner"

Its not just THINNER. It is a whole new design, top to bottom. And it this one is a big deal for iPhone.....this is finally THE design Apple has wanted to use in the iPhone for years, but couldn't due to practical limitations of technology.

The foreshadowing of this design came with the iPod touch a while ago....but it just wasn't possible to cram in all of the iPhone's internals. Rounded, ultra slim...the perfect design for an aluminum handheld....only now is it finally possible to take that strategy to iPhone.

But yea....lets pause on innovation for a small bump in battery.
 
So you're thinking they should make it thinner, while they're also likely making the screen bigger which will draw more power, and only give it a slightly bigger battery? I'd be surprised, if they did actually make the screen 4.7", if people even got the same battery life as the 5S.

You're being obtuse. A bigger screen, sure, but what screen tech? How much more juice will it really consume? And if we're considering screen size, then why not consider the other items folks have mentioned throughout the thread, like improvements to come with the A8 or iOS 8 optimizations? We've already seen a huge push from OS X towards battery conservation; I think we can expect more of the same.

All for love of thin.

Don't you understand that a computer can be too thin?

Oh, really? I seem to have missed the objective evidence supporting this fact. Please point me to where I can find your extensive analysis on the topic. And have you shared these findings with Apple? Better hurry before Apple makes a big mistake or they'll be doomed!
 
The battery life is already decent, I was just trying to help squeeze an extra bit out of your device for those who expect more.

They are advertised as being able to do A, B, C and D but if you only use A + B then there's no harm in switching off C + D to extend the battery life.

If by decent you mean the worst of all the major competitors.
 
the 5 and 5s power use per hour is miles better than any android phone. This article just says they're behind on the capacities, but they will offer better or comparable usability than any phone out there.

I personally don't get how apple has such low capacity ratings considering their designs mean more space for batteries than any competitors? Does anyone know why samsung with removable encased plastic batteries can have such high capacities when the volume looks less?
 
Well, any little bit helps.

I am worried about the structural integrity of such a thin device though.

This is a legitimate concern. My wife keeps her phone in her back pocket, which always seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
 
If that's really all you've done, then there's something very wrong with your particular phone. That's maybe 10-20% of the battery life you should be getting.

Personally, I am quite happy with both the current state of battery life and thinness. Any improvements to either are welcome, but I don't see either as an issue on my iphone 5.

Im sitting under the cell tower at work and therefore only get 2 bars. If i don't go on wifi, the battery drops like a stone while emitting enough heat to cook an egg. Bad reception on data burns through battery.
 
Ive never had my phone 5c die on me, except for when i was visiting in new york. something about the city and cell tower signals maybe? i was down to the 10 percent mark by the time we got back to the house everynight.

but back home in texas, my phone streams radio for 8 plus hours while at work and i still have juice into the evening.
 
There is a point at which...

...the phones can be too thin. Imagine walking around talking into what is essentially an extra large debit card. How uncomfortable will that be to hold? I'm not saying they shouldn't press for more thinner-ness. But it needs to be only one factor weighed against other more important ones, including battery life and 'feel'. I am blessed to work at a desk so that my iPhone is constantly plugged in throughout the day. But I know that is not true for everyone.

As for battery cases and the like; why design a beautiful device that just needs to be wrapped up in a separate battery case to get through a day of real work? FWIW, I find that using Messages (not a 3rd party app) actually drains a lot of battery life in relatively short order.

Peace be with you.
 
Don't worry guys... this isn't the whole story...

yes capacity maybe modestly improved... but the software tweaks they will implement in the ios 8 gold master will dramatically improve battery life.
And then 8.0.1 and onward will destroy that dramatically improved battery life.

With 7.0 I got 10 hours, with 7.0.1+ I started getting less than 7. With 7.1.2 I get around 5 or 6.
 
the 5 and 5s power use per hour is miles better than any android phone. This article just says they're behind on the capacities, but they will offer better or comparable usability than any phone out there.

I personally don't get how apple has such low capacity ratings considering their designs mean more space for batteries than any competitors? Does anyone know why samsung with removable encased plastic batteries can have such high capacities when the volume looks less?

The iPhone trades blows with every high end phone battery category except for talk time and as a phone that's crucial. I know not a lot of people talk on the phone for 20 hours a day anymore, but it's nice knowing you can use your device as an actual phone from time to time.
 
Thinner above everything else.
Please go away, Mr. Ives.

Right?

Thin phones! (bad battery life)
Thin desktops! (wait, what?)
Thin fonts! (can't read the words . . .)

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...the phones can be too thin. Imagine walking around talking into what is essentially an extra large debit card. How uncomfortable will that be to hold?.

It immediately gets welded into a fat Otterbox case anyway, to protect the investment. Any thinner is just silly.
 
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