Somehow, the iPad Air with 3.1 million pixels, 1GB of RAM, and an A7 chip, manages just fine. I doubt that the 6P will suffer much in the near term. I would agree however, that planned obsolescence may play a big part of why the RAM amount in the iPhone 6 is restricted. Also, it does force developers to be more frugal with resource tasking and ultimately can bring innovation on that front.
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iPhone 6 Plus 2GB RAM?
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Hmm, planned obsolescence where the iPad 2 is still a fairly effective piece of kit. The only iOS devices I'd say are obsolete* are the iPad 1 and Edge equipped iPhones. A 3G or 3GS would be absolutely painful, but I still see them around used as browsing**/iPods/email/text/phone, their original purpose.
*Yeah yeah, this is where people jump in and say "I still use an iPad 1". Fair play to said people, my old one is still in use with an elder family member, but it is borderline obsolete as it actually struggles at one thing it was originally purchased for - browsing. It simply crashes visiting a lot of modern websites.
**Can't vouch whether they suffer the same problem as the iPad 1 at browsing, quite likely.
*Yeah yeah, this is where people jump in and say "I still use an iPad 1". Fair play to said people, my old one is still in use with an elder family member, but it is borderline obsolete as it actually struggles at one thing it was originally purchased for - browsing. It simply crashes visiting a lot of modern websites.
**Can't vouch whether they suffer the same problem as the iPad 1 at browsing, quite likely.
Yeah. The iPhone 5 is still totally usable and has the same RAM as the soon to be released iPhone 6. As most flagship phones released during the past couple of years are still inherently decent due to how powerful they are, Apple may have had nothing to tempt people into buying the iPhone 6S, so they held RAM back. Sadly the swanky new i6 is crippled from the start with 2012 specs. I predict that it will have a shelf life of 12 months, whereas the iPhone 5 will have lasted three years with more or less the same real world usage specs. What a bargain the i5 has turned out to be! The longest lasting iPhone ever? The i6 is just a hotrodded iPhone 5 with a bigger screen and it absolutely belongs to the same family - i5/5S/i6. Yeah the camera is better and it has Touch ID but the bigger screen aside, nobody would notice any performance differences when web browsing or using apps.
Let me just jump in to say that the RAM is combined on the SoC including the shared bus between RAM/GPU/CPU. I do not think for a second that Apple has produces two different SoC's for the 6/6Plus or even the iPad.
They are all identical, it's the law of large scale manufacturing.
The only thing Apple can do is to clock the iPad higher, because it has a larger battery and can probably handle higher temperatures.
They are all identical, it's the law of large scale manufacturing.
The only thing Apple can do is to clock the iPad higher, because it has a larger battery and can probably handle higher temperatures.
Do you use safari on the air? Do you use more than one tab?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d7pEgZ-SIVI
Apple WILL have a 6s that I am sure is the kind if upgrade we will expect from apple.
The amount of ram on the 6 is NOT the consideration of whether I upgrade to the 6. The 6 has to be doing something major in the aggregate that I can't do now with my 5s that makes my life better or easier.
That said I'm probably skipping the 6 and going for the 6s.
I understand that my views are possibly extreme, but having suffered webpage and app reloading every day of ownership with my i5, I was looking for more RAM as an absolute necessity from the new iPhone. Like you I will be skipping the i6 but it is with a heavy heart and some degree of annoyance.
Damn! Okay, now I'm hesitant about upgrading to an iPad Air, and I'm even hesitant about getting the iPhone 6 that I preordered yesterday.
If the 6s were to get a bump up to 2 GB of RAM, could/would Apple even use that as a selling point, given that they are so mum on specs like that and have tried so hard to stay out of the spec wars with Android? I doubt they'd have held back on RAM just to have something to entice people to upgrade from 6 to 6s. There must be other reasons they're keeping to 1GB and other selling points they're planning for the S version, I'd think.
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I can think of absolutely no positive reason why they may have stuck with 1GB of RAM. It's either to save a few dollars per unit and thus maximise profits, or to intentionally reduce the longevity of the device. Probably the latter IMO.
I'll not buy a new apple mobile product again, until it ships with 2Gigs of RAM, due to my dissatisfaction with the Air. But I can see myself getting a used/refurb iPhone 5 or 5s for the misses, as she won't know the difference - sadly, like most iPhone users. To them, tabs are supposed to refresh, apps are supposed to die, and background(not even knowing of true multitasking) apps reload constantly.
I hear ya. Was that your video? I'm curious because I just tested out that exact same scenario on my iPad 2 and did not have the same problem, so I'm wondering if this is just a problem with the Air.
I think it both!
Keep the demand going with new iPhones and iPads by Apple upgrading the iOS versions. That why I still using an Touch 3rd gen; never upgrade the iOS which stop at version 6? I still am on version 3 - the original version that came with the Touch! Everything is fast and I don't upgrade the apps either because the update does not look at your iOS version; it just notifies you that an update is available!
Proper programming can fix that. I don't have an iPad 2 to test but I'd be curious if that happens there too?
It does not happen on my ancient Motorola Xoom. I tried to make a video to best replicate that. Excuse the quality I used my iPhone camera and didn't feel like uploading HD.
http://youtu.be/UZOPF_jA1vg
And yes the Xoom is painfully slow by todays standards but no tab reloads.
I don't do that type of thing. I don't do it under windows or Ubuntu. I don't do it using ie, chrome or firefox.
I have had issues tabbing away, then tabbing back, on every browser platform on every O/S. Maybe that is why I never noticed the reload issue, as one "transaction" if you will is completed before moving onto the next. (especially an online payment transaction)
So having said that said, since this is not an issue for ME, it's not an issue.
I tested it on my iPad 2 and I did not get the same results, so I'm wondering if this problem is just exclusive to the Air. I was thinking of upgrading to the Air, but may not after seeing that video. I'm also wondering if that was just a one off instance.
They already allowed it to happen.
More memory is more memory. Regardless of how efficiently the OS is twice as much still provides the same benefit.
Reload is exclusive to iOS. I just posted 2 videos showing other mobile platforms dont do this. All desktop browsers don't even have the functionality to automatically reload a tab on low memory (using page filing and HDD space anyway), meaning the browser will crash before that happens.
I'm typing this in Safari on OSX and if I switched to another tab and used this computer for 10 years then switched back (assuming there wasn't a crash, power outage etc) it would be exactly where I left off and nothing I type would have been lost.
I truly have NO idea where people got it in there head that this is standard operation for browsers when it is clearly not. Like ever, I'm looking back at NetScape Navigator and its fine hahah
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You've had tabs reloading on your PC, with TWO tabs??
Also, Windows, Mac etc. use page file to ssd so it will not reload.