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Um, you, and everyone else who ridicule the guy fail to see beyond the lads daft hat and actually watch and see what happens.

The important bit isn't the end of the video where the phone has bent as much as he can make it. The important bit is when he starts. It doesn't really take much effort to get the damn thing to bend. That's the point here. Once it deforms even a little bit, the test is as good as done. Tying it in a knot afterwards is irrelevant.

The users here with the issue have all said they were not aware of any undue force used.

The scientific process is immune to ridicule, and is repeatable. That was my point of the parenthetical comments made at the bottom of the post, which I assume you are reflecting on.

As for why it bent, I'll give you that, and use it as anecdotal evidence that putting the phone in your pants pockets is a bad idea. I'm amazed at people that walk around with phones in their back pockets that are amazed that when they sit down, force is exerted on their phones. This is more in the statistical realm, and there is debate on whether that is indeed science at all, where statistics are what "might happen," and hard science is what "will happen." The counter to that argument is no one can know all of the factors that go into a scientific law, so those things have to be accounted for, and there you go.

"I was sitting on the non-glass side!" :eek:
 
Metal bends. I think the big hoopla here is that the metal is *staying bent* instead of rebounding back to its former shape. Plastic would do that unless held in a particular position for a long period of time and/or exposed to heat.

Is this a design flaw? Sure. But it's a flaw by design in the sense that people have placed unreasonable demands on Apple for bigger and thinner. Could you just imagine how the iPhone 6 would be perceived if it came out and was drastically thicker than competing phones? Apple just can't win.

Now, I'm curious to see how Apple responds to this. Will this public revelation force them to create some magical solution to retain aluminum but give it some flex without the concern of staying bent? The challenge is now out there.

The people didn't require apple to make it thinner. That has been the quest apple has been pushing for and driving on its own to the detriment of their own products for many years.

No one asked for ever increasingly thinner iMacs. Yet Apple continued to make them thinner and thinner on their own while creating cooling problems in their quest. It's not the people who set this expectation. It was apples desire to amaze us with how thin it could be in hopes to steal market share based on sexiness of the devices styling.

Other companies followed suit. Then People start comparing.

Apple made the bed, now they deal with the beast they created. And have to figure out how to extend capabilities while maintaining their quest to shrink devices. Don't think that wider phones were made solely for the consumers demand. They wanted to make it thinner, yet needed more space. Only one other way to go.... Wider.
 
6.9mm piece of aluminium bends when a large force is applied to it. Grass is also green.
Yes, it's obvious. But this doesn't make it less of a problem. When only days have passed and people get it bent from having it in a _front_ pocket, I think it's a problem demanding some attention. I'm also unsure why so many are blaming the back pockets; that's not what sparked this story alive.

This is the first iPhone being so thin, yet with the same kind of bendable material as before, and also the first ones being so large. Several circumstances come together in a way they haven't before, so I wonder how much of a problem this will be in, say, a year of use. We don't have a track record to look back on. What I do know, however, is that it'll take much less force than shown in this video if you're letting it happen over a longer period of time, even if it is just months. This is basic physics.

I personally think there are so many apologists in this thread rather than people actually discussing the subject. On the other hand, I can understand a defensive stance if people have considered or even ordered a phone costing them $700. We shouldn't have to work around normal usage patterns though, not at these price points.

Ironically, if Apple had allowed it to be a tiny millimeter thicker and given it even better battery life as well as no camera bulge, this would perhaps also have become less of a problem.
 
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Yeah same thing with my sunglasses, I sat on them in the car and they broke. I wrote the company because of the "design flaw". They should have been shaped like my A** then would not have broken. Totally the companies fault not mine. :rolleyes:

Sitting on a pair of sunglasses not part of what they are designed for...

But i think most if not all people think that a common idea of a mobile phone is to transport it around with you in a pocket. If the product is not able to withstand the stress which is applied to it during the means of transport which it is commonly understood to be the norm, then the product is indeed flawed.
 
Well of course if you bend it deliberately... it will bend. Especially if it bends in people's pockets.
 
I did some YouTube searching (not a lot admittedly) but couldn't see any examples of other devices bending. I guess though we need to see some real world examples (people saying it has bent just by being in a pocket), rather than a YouTube test.
 
The people didn't require apple to make it thinner. That has been the quest apple has been pushing for and driving on its own to the detriment of their own products for many years.

No one asked for ever increasingly thinner iMacs. Yet Apple continued to make them thinner and thinner on their own while creating cooling problems in their quest. It's not the people who set this expectation. It was apples desire to amaze us with how thin it could be in hopes to steal market share based on sexiness of the devices styling.

Other companies followed suit. Then People start comparing.

Apple made the bed, now they deal with the beast they created. And have to figure out how to extend capabilities while maintaining their quest to shrink devices. Don't think that wider phones were made solely for the consumers demand. They wanted to make it thinner, yet needed more space. Only one other way to go.... Wider.

This is it. Right here!
 
I can do the same thing with my iPhone 5 right now if I bent it like this guy. What a dumb "official test". Click bait.
 
No because that’s unapologetically plastic

Actually it has steel frame to give it rigid structure so you can't bend it.

Apparently Samsung Note 3 can withstand the same abuse the iPhone 6 plus can't take so in my books this is a major failure on Apple's part. Note 3 is pig ugly but it seems Samsung engineers at least had some saying how the phone should be built in order it be usable in everyday environment. This whole "bend gate" is really pity since I really wanted to get the new plus. However, I'm not willing to pay to be Apple's test subject.
 
I'm curious if Tim says something this time. This is not acceptable. Why didn't they put an extra metall-frame in it like in the 5C?

I'm getting the 6 so I don't give a ******* about this problem and I take care of my things
 
Driving a car into a wall is not the purpose of a car, if you build a car to withstand driving into a car wall because you thought that was the purpose of it, a car should not crumple...

Actually, crumpling when driving into a wall is part of the purpose of a car! The purpose of a car is to drive SAFELY people from point A to point B. So, in case of an accident, the purpose of a car is not to preserve its mechanical structure, but to preserve the biological structure of its passengers.
A car that would stay rigid in such an event would just transmit the energy of the shock to the passengers. A car that crumples will absorb most of the energy.
So, yes, cars crumples by design. A car that would not crumple when being driven into a wall would be as much an engineering failure as an iPhone that crumples in normal use...
 
Hopefully, some company will provide a fix for Apple engineering failure. For instance, I have a Canon S90 camera and the company had made the ergonomic failure of a totally flat back (no grip!) - yet, some company made a grip that could be superglued to it and that greatly improved handling.

I expect we will soon have back replacement of either strong metal (steel or high quality aluminium) or with some structure to it to prevent bending. Or maybe we will just have a backplate to glue to the existing back to add some strength and that would have the advantage of making the back flat instead of having that camera lens sticking out... While they're at it, they might even find a less ugly design solution for these antennas...
 
It could also be that the iPhone 5's glass is inset a bit from the frame, so if it lands on a flat surface, even face down, it's the frame that hits first. Same with the 5C. The iPhone 4 nearly always hit glass first, no matter how it landed, so I think Apple compensated for that in the iPhone 5.

If the iPhone 6 or 6+ lands face down, it will be glass first. I'm keeping mine in a cheap ($15) case for now.

It's not inset on the 5, 5c or 5s. There are a tiny plastic band around it but it sticks out of the front of the device. The side on pic is the same for all 3 devices.

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Buying a case that stands above the level of the screen is a good way to avoid this.
 
Meanwhile my iPhone 6 remains straight. Sounds like common sense but I take care of it and don't intentionally break something of that value.
 
Poor apple...It is just so unreasonable for consumers to want to a larger iphone.

people still complain how small phone is and now people will start complain how big phone is....

the problems is people will never be happy what they wants - just want to show off...

:cool:
 
I'm actually kind of surprised by the negative reaction this persons "test" was met with. Obviously it's not truly meant to be scientific, or at least I did not take it as such. Just like with the drop tests people do, those aren't scientific either. I just took it as an extreme example to illustrate a point reports coming in about bending in certain situations. Clearly he is abusing the phone in ways not intended, it's still good to know. I haven't gotten my phone yet, but weakness or not, it seems this is still useful to be aware of as I carry my phone in my front pocket. For the record, I love Apple.
 
YOUR SMARTPHONE SHOULD NOT BEND BY HAVING IT ON YOUR POCKETS!

This is clearly a design flaw and a quality issue with the iphone 6 and iphone 6 plus.

http://www.geek.com/apple/iphone-6s-are-being-bent-in-peoples-pockets-including-mine-1605177/

Iphone 6 bend Test:
http://youtu.be/znK652H6yQM

Galaxy Note 3 Bend Test (iPhone 6 Plus Follow-up):
http://youtu.be/FwM4ypi3at0

#bendgate

if it is design flaw - i wonder how much stress test (light,medium, heavy or extreme) did Apple go through before selling it?
 
Is no one else impressed that the screen did not crack and the phone still is functioning!? The bending should not happen, I agree 100% but show me other devices that still work after being bend like that.
 
Is no one else impressed that the screen did not crack and the phone still is functioning!?

And that's the reason management at Apple let the issue go live... If the screen doesn't break and if the iPhone keeps functioning, then AppleCare+ does not apply and either you keep your bent phone (and Apple lose nothing) or you pay for the exchange (and Apple wins some money)...

And if you try to unbend your iPhone yourself, the screen does break, but then Apple can deny you since you broke your iPhone while performing an action that was excluded by AppleCare+ (servicing your own device).
 
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