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iPhone 6 Plus Bending Limits Tested in New Video

Medic311 said:
I know I sound like a broken record but I've said over and over again that the 4/4S had the best design of any iPhone even the most recent ones. I still use my 4S at home from time to time as a media control and streaming source and I marvel at it's design in comparison to my 5
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This. To all saying "get over it, phones bend, it's normal", no. The 4s didn't bend. Didn't scratch as easily and was much more difficult to put a dent in it.
 
For the sake of science falls in the same league as the I ****ing love science facebook group. In other words, neither have anything to do with science.
 
NPR interview request

Hi all,

I am working on a story about bendgate for NPR. I would love to interview someone about how their phone bent. If you are interested, please contact me at tfitzsimons at npr dot org.

Best,

Tim Fitzsimons
 
iThinkIt said:
with all this bendgate... the questions is... should i cancel the order for the 6+..... 🙄
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I'd wait. See how this plays out, if it's a common problem. See if Apple dare addresses it. I'm in the same boat and have about three weeks to decide if canceling my order makes sense. Never thought this would be a problem 😱
 
This is making the rounds on all the major news shows this morning.

I wonder if Apple will be forced to respond.
 
paulwmather said:
Hey guys, this may have been pointed out previously, but there are some inconsistencies in this video that lead me to believe this iPhone 6 plus has been bent several times previously.

At 1:39 in the video when he’s bending the phone, the iPhone clock reads 2:26, Thursday September 23.

At 2:16 in the video when the phone is already bent, the iPhone clock reads 1:58, Thursday September 23

This doesn’t make sense. Does bending an iPhone 6 cause time travel? Or has this guy bent the phone back and forth several times? This guy isn't stupid, he knows a video showing the iPhone 6 Plus bend easily, will get far more publicity and views than a video showing the iPhone 6 Plus to be tough.

I'm not saying the iPhone 6/Plus doesn't have a problem, because I'm actually quite concerned about my own. But this video appears to be misleading.

Any other explanations other than he's bent the phone several times?
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Excellent observation. I didn't notice that before. Doctored video.
 
iZac said:
Email Jony, he has to know about this!
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Lictor said:
You're right. It's just amazing that a company like Apple wasn't able to realise that simple truth... I think it's a clear hint of a dysfunction in the company since the death of Steve Jobs. It looks like the design department has taken over the company and completely ignored the people in engineering...
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It IS interesting that all the headline hires at the company over the last year have been some of the worlds greatest fashionistas and marketers. I haven't seen any headlines about the hiring of any great engineers lately.
 
gnipgnop said:
If you're a mechanical engineer, then you would probably be more skeptical of the claims being made. For example, how would it be possible for the phone to bend across it's width if it were being placed vertically in the pocket? Shouldn't it be bending vertically along the curvature of the leg? Note that in the video where the guy bends the phone with his hands, he's applying types of pressure that wouldn't be possible if the phone was flush against the leg. Your leg would apply pressure to the entire length of the phone, not isolate pressure to a single point that allows it to be bent by it's width.
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Phone sticking slightly out of pocket, sitting down, top half of it pressing against your stomach/hip. If you have the volume half of the phone sticking out, you would be bending the phone almost exactly along the location where the volume slot cutouts are. I'm the exact opposite of skeptical, I think it makes perfect sense.
 
dvoros said:
This is terrible on many levels. How can a high-tech company not test or see this for themselves. What kind of engineers are they employing these days? This is more embarrassing than the AntennaGate Affair. The phone costs us a fortune and for Apple not to discover this is an outrage!!!😡
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Because those engineers don't think that there are some idiots that expect a phone not to bent when using unreasonable force. In other news you can bent a Mac book if you use enough force, brake a screen when dropped or scratch your phone when in a bag or pocket. There also still seems to be no cure for idiocy unfortunately.

You guys complain like you some design geniuses and could do better than the best engineers in the business. You know the once every device manufacturer tries to imitate, it's just laughable how stupid people can be. Please build a phone that is superior build quality to the iPhone or HTC M8, run your own designed software on it, create an ecosystem for your costumers and than sell 10 million in 3 days like :apple:
Pff
 
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griz said:
Apparently the 5s had the same bend-ability issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80X_cj1TpU
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Technically the 4.7” will have this issue as well. The problem is that you’re going to see this more with the 5.5” because it’s a long lightweight aluminum phone that’s very thin.
Here’s a test. Try to bend a quarter with your fingers. Near impossible right? Now imagine if that quarter was the length of an iPhone 5.5”. It would be extremely easy to bend. Length, thickness, materials and construction have a lot to do with how a device performs under pressure.
Options:
Live with it and be paranoid.
Buy a thick ugly case.
Be mindful which pockets you put the device it. If it’s a tight fit don’t do it.
Return the product and get something else.
 
Samsung will be all over this..

I don't know if anyone here mentioned it but, I can already see samsung using this bendable iPhone 6 and 6 plus issue within their commercials. Like they are doing with Siri and Cortana.

Cortana: I stand up straight!
Siri: I tend to slouch...

Darn....

But I'd still love to get an iPhone 6 if only they could include stabilization in that version rather than JUST 6+. I don't care for the bigger one. I might as well get the iPad Mini.
 
richardsonrs said:
I have loose pockets in all my pants. I could fit Multiple phones in there easily. My phone is slightly bent as of this morning at the volume button side. I keep it face in, in my pocket. I have had in there for about 8 hours of use....
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Question, when you say, "face in", do you mean the screen is resting against your thigh? If so, how can the iPhone bend? If anything, it would bend and flex the screen inward and crack the glass. If you meant face out (glass toward the outside of your pants pocket) then it would make more sense.

???

--DotComCTO
 
richardsonrs said:
I have loose pockets in all my pants. I could fit Multiple phones in there easily. My phone is slightly bent as of this morning at the volume button side. I keep it face in, in my pocket. I have had in there for about 8 hours of use. This is not good. Nobody has sat in my lap or anything weird or odd. Normal use. Daily moving around. One day. It's bent. Have literally kept every phone I have ever had for the last 9 years in these exact pockets and this is the only phone I have had bend on me. 6+
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Wow. I'm one of the biggest Apple critics on this board, but I've been hanging back a bit to see how this all washes out. If what you say is true Apple is in for a sh*tstorm.

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tfitzsimons said:
Hi all,

I am working on a story about bendgate for NPR. I would love to interview someone about how their phone bent. If you are interested, please contact me at tfitzsimons at npr dot org.

Best,

Tim Fitzsimons
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Uh oh. The sh*tstorm begins.
 
DotComCTO said:
Question, when you say, "face in", do you mean the screen is resting against your thigh? If so, how can the iPhone bend? If anything, it would bend and flex the screen inward and crack the glass. If you meant face out (glass toward the outside of your pants pocket) then it would make more sense.

???

--DotComCTO
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Screen against my thigh. Of note, I was just defending Apple this morning in the office. Saying their is no way something more didn't happen. Well I'm here to tell you, something more didn't happen.

It bent back to front on the top left corner. Put yours in your pocket and kneel down a bit and watch your pants flex over that corner. That's what is causing it. It's really not a good situation for apple right now. This will be a big deal.

I guess it goes in my shirt pocket from now on. Pocket protector style.
 
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richardsonrs said:
Screen against my thigh. Of note, I was just defending Apple this morning in the office. Saying their is no way something more didn't happen. Well I'm here to tell you, something more didn't happen.

It bent back to front on the top left corner. Put yours in your pocket and kneel down a bit and watch your pants flex over that corner. That's what is causing it. It's really not a good situation for apple right now. This will be a big deal.

I guess it goes in my shirt pocket from now on. Pocket protector style.
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Dude look up! Contact that NPR guy a few posts above this one! Popcorn time!
 
GuitarDTO said:
I have a 6+ on order currently. I'm also a mechanical engineer by day. I see a lot of "well duh if you bend it, it's going to bend" type comments, but it seems clear that this is something Apple overlooked. They should have predicted that under many normal circumstances people were going to put this phone in their front pockets. The phone shouldn't bend that easily. The guys phone was noticeably bent even before forcing it with his hands. Apple simply failed to analyze this scenario. It makes me wonder if they even run any kind of structural analyses at all on their phones, a simple Finite Element model would show this phone lighting up like a christmas tree at the weak spot in the case (clearly near the volume buttons), and could be reinforced fairly easily without sacrificing thickness of the overall device. Jony may be a good designer, but he is clearly a *****ty engineer.

Suffice it to say, I will not be putting this phone in my pockets ever.
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Ive is not an engineer. there is an engineering department. Ive is design.

but i still disagree with your conclusions -- you have no idea what they tested for and what tools they used to complete those tests.

and if you arent going to keep this phone in your pockets, what are you going to do w/ it? will you get another phone, that is also susceptible to misuse?
 
iolinux333 said:
Key

Dude look up! Contact that NPR guy a few posts above this one! Popcorn time!
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He contacted me. It will be on all things considered tonight. I've always been very lenient with apple on stuff. I had the antenna issue and just got a case. Had the battery issue and waited for recall. Have the power button issue and waited for a recall. Not this time, not with my 950.00 phone. They need to figure it out yesterday.
 
TsunamiTheClown said:
I knew that people would forget about the "hideous bands" soon enough. 🙂
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RIGHT! 😀

Now it's 10,000 out of 10,000,000 mass produced electronic devices made of metal bend in your pocket when pressure is applied.

Does anyone still get a device to actually use anymore? Instead of just look at and ogle while it's on a table?

I think my phone is in my pocket the least during the day. I pull it out and use it to do all sorts of things almost consistently. Then when I'm at home it's still out of my pocket. Then at night it's on the charger.


Maybe I'm the weirdo that does everything with my phone BUT make phone calls and leave it in my pocket all day. It's why the Note 2 was excellent save for iWork and why the 6 Plus is truly a phone I can live with.
 
richardsonrs said:
He contacted me. It will be on all things considered tonight. I've always been very lenient with apple on stuff. I had the antenna issue and just got a case. Had the battery issue and waited for recall. Have the power button issue and waited for a recall. Not this time, not with my 950.00 phone. They need to figure it out yesterday.
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And with that, Apple PR team is now officially on overdrive! No sleep for them tonight!
 
Shirke said:
It's not the size of the phone it's a design flaw or manufacturing defect.
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I mentioned this previously and my non engineering background makes me think it's the fact that there are holes drilled in the device immediately opposite each other.

I believe this weakens the strength of the device in a single line running horizontally across from the bottom of the volume down button to the top of the sim tray, which is inline with where these bends are happening. This is most likely made worse by it happening towards the middle of the device amplifying the force at that point.

The most likely answer is to move the sim tray down 1cm for the 6S+.
 
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