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As for Henry saying that only a couple of folk have complained, it's worth noting that 199 people or 44.52% of those who contributed to the ten page 'iPhone 6+ lag' thread said that their 6+ exhibited it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1791582/

The poll posted on a technology centric, Mac specific website isn't going to capture the opinion of the average iPhone user. Not exactly real evidence here.

An average iPhone user isn't even a member of this forum, it's your mom, dad, brother, sister, coworkers, and friends.
 
Wow, the reactions to 8.2 are completely the opposite of mine. My iPhone 6 Plus is much worse off since the update. Apps will crash in the background or will hang while being used. Example: Rdio is playing music in the background while I'm using Google Maps. When the song ends, Rdio is no longer running and I have to open it again, find the album and the next song, and hit play. It is aggravating as hell, especially while driving.
 
I used my friends iPhone 6+, and while it's certainly not as smooth as the iPhone 6, it isn't herrendous.

I think with 2GB of RAM and a processor boost, the 6s+ will be a beast!
 
Sorry...not happening on my phone. Still smooth.

Of course, you have a "special" 6 Plus :rolleyes:

or you're blind, because that animation isn't even near 60 fps.

Once you rotate it once, it caches the animation or whatever and it is smoother after that, until you exit spotlight and try to rotate it again. The stuttery, android 1.0 animation is back.
 
I used my friends iPhone 6+, and while it's certainly not as smooth as the iPhone 6, it isn't herrendous.

I think with 2GB of RAM and a processor boost, the 6s+ will be a beast!

That doesn't help the current model does it. Also, the 6+ should be every bit as smooth as the i6. It costs more for a start.
 
It needs a more powerful GPU first and foremost.

I can't see anything related to poor gpu performances.

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Of course, you have a "special" 6 Plus :rolleyes:

or you're blind, because that animation isn't even near 60 fps.

Once you rotate it once, it caches the animation or whatever and it is smoother after that, until you exit spotlight and try to rotate it again. The stuttery, android 1.0 animation is back.

Did you actually checked frame rate, and how ?

Or you are just downplaying it ?

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Pull down spotlight and rotate the screen. Enjoy looking at a 5 fps animation :p

Tried on six units at the nearest Apple store : didn't see any 5 fps animation.
 
My 6+ crashes so ****** much and refreshes apps and tabs like no other.

Using Mercury browser if I go to the camera app take 1 rear camera shot and go back all my tabs reload.

I got constant crashes when trying to send around half a dozen pics through I message, I had to do them separately. The crashes never quit.

Mercury browser will now very often get laggy and crash, especially if I'm doing some intensive browsing like a news site. This happens multiple times a day.

I've had the phone reboot on me around 6 or 7 times since I've had it.

Safari can barely retain 2 tabs while browsing, pray that you don't have data intensive sites on your tabs.

Can't save gif images still. Can't just open webm files, have to go through the convoluted process of saving and opening in another app, won't do it from any browser.

App cross communication is still horribly basic.


All in all I'm getting really frustrated and put out with this phone in general. Which id gone for something else but I got sucked into the iPhone because I had one before, it was an easy switch, was used to it, and iMessage.
 
My 6+ crashes so ****** much and refreshes apps and tabs like no other.

Using Mercury browser if I go to the camera app take 1 rear camera shot and go back all my tabs reload.

I got constant crashes when trying to send around half a dozen pics through I message, I had to do them separately. The crashes never quit.

Mercury browser will now very often get laggy and crash, especially if I'm doing some intensive browsing like a news site. This happens multiple times a day.

I've had the phone reboot on me around 6 or 7 times since I've had it.

Safari can barely retain 2 tabs while browsing, pray that you don't have data intensive sites on your tabs.

Can't save gif images still. Can't just open webm files, have to go through the convoluted process of saving and opening in another app, won't do it from any browser.

App cross communication is still horribly basic.


All in all I'm getting really frustrated and put out with this phone in general. Which id gone for something else but I got sucked into the iPhone because I had one before, it was an easy switch, was used to it, and iMessage.

I hear ya. As much as I love the battery life, loudspeaker quality and screen resolution, my 6+ is still the worst iPhone I've owned to date. I just don't understand all the hype. So it has a big screen and Apple Pay, big deal.

I was over at my parents' house this evening and my father was having a problem with attaching photos to an email. There was nothing wrong with the phone, he just couldn't manage the task. Anyway, after I had showed him how to do it I had a little play with his iPhone 5. It's my old phone and you know what, it smokes my 6+. Websites load every bit as quickly, the UI is every bit as fast and yet there were no bugs! No spinning data wheel in Safari, no tab reloading, no app reloading, no crashing apps, no screen freezing, no copy/paste bug, no portrait/landscape rotation issues.

It felt like a much improved version of my own two years newer phone, but just with a smaller screen. I remember it being like that but after several months of not playing around with it I had got used to my own Bugmeister. Just not good enough Apple.
 
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I hear ya. As much as I love the battery life, loudspeaker quality and screen resolution, my 6+ is still the worst iPhone I've owned to date. I just don't understand all the hype. So it has a big screen and Apple Pay, big deal.

I was over at my parents' house this evening and my father was having a problem with attaching photos to an email. There was nothing wrong with the phone, he just couldn't manage the task. Anyway, after I had showed him how to do it I had a little play with his iPhone 5. It's my old phone and you know what, it smokes my 6+. Websites load every bit as quickly, the UI is every bit as fast and yet there were no bugs! No spinning data wheel in Safari, no tab reloading, no app reloading, no crashing apps, no screen freezing, no copy/paste bug, no portrait/landscape rotation issues.

It felt like a much improved version of my own two years newer phone, but just with a smaller screen. I remember it being like that but after several months of not playing around with it I had got used to my own Bugmeister. Just not good enough Apple.

I only have a 4s and it's still way worse than the 6+ so I can't speak to that, but right when I clicked the text box to reply to you my Mercury browser crashed again :( I hate this
 
I only have a 4s and it's still way worse than the 6+ so I can't speak to that, but right when I clicked the text box to reply to you my Mercury browser crashed again :( I hate this

The iPhone 5 is running 7.1.2 and not iOS8.
What's your 4S running? Don't forget that the i5 has 1GB of RAM and that the processor is plently up to the task of running iOS7 exceptionally well.
 
The iPhone 5 is running 7.1.2 and not iOS8.
What's your 4S running? Don't forget that the i5 has 1GB of RAM and that the processor is plently up to the task of running iOS7 exceptionally well.

Just on iOS 7 something I think. It wasn't so good.
 
My 6+ crashes so ****** much and refreshes apps and tabs like no other.

Using Mercury browser if I go to the camera app take 1 rear camera shot and go back all my tabs reload.

I got constant crashes when trying to send around half a dozen pics through I message, I had to do them separately. The crashes never quit.

Mercury browser will now very often get laggy and crash, especially if I'm doing some intensive browsing like a news site. This happens multiple times a day.

I've had the phone reboot on me around 6 or 7 times since I've had it.

Safari can barely retain 2 tabs while browsing, pray that you don't have data intensive sites on your tabs.

Can't save gif images still. Can't just open webm files, have to go through the convoluted process of saving and opening in another app, won't do it from any browser.

App cross communication is still horribly basic.


All in all I'm getting really frustrated and put out with this phone in general. Which id gone for something else but I got sucked into the iPhone because I had one before, it was an easy switch, was used to it, and iMessage.

You seem to have a defective device.
 
?????

It runs more pixels, same CPU/GPU, thats the answer.

Why the '?????' ?
The 6+ should be every bit as smooth as the 4.7" i6. It isn't supposed to be an entry level device, it is actually the more expensive of the two.
 
Why the '?????' ?
The 6+ should be every bit as smooth as the 4.7" i6. It isn't supposed to be an entry level device, it is actually the more expensive of the two.

Is the 6 entry level?? Both devices have the same hardware, that is why the 6 runs smoother. If the 6 is entry level then operhaps you suggest that they increase the hardware on the Plus, and driop the price on the 6 by half to make it entry level
 
Is the 6 entry level?? Both devices have the same hardware, that is why the 6 runs smoother. If the 6 is entry level then operhaps you suggest that they increase the hardware on the Plus, and driop the price on the 6 by half to make it entry level

I didn't mean that the i6 is entry level. You are misunderstanding the point I'm making. The 6+ performs worse than the 4.7" version. This isn't acceptable, especially considering that it costs more.
 
I didn't mean that the i6 is entry level. You are misunderstanding the point I'm making. The 6+ performs worse than the 4.7" version. This isn't acceptable, especially considering that it costs more.

It costs more as its larger, battery is larger, screen is larger, screen is higher res.

You mentioned entry level, you mentioned i6.

My suggestion is to start a thread where the 6 Plus gets 16GB RAM as you have a fetish with RAM, as many others here have told you. That won't help as its not a RAM issue. Or get a phone that suits your needs better

Car analogy. You have two choices, the 4 door sedan, or the long station wagon, which gives you much more utlility. Typically, they have the same engine as they are the same car, one is larger. So, does the larger one go as fast? No. Does the larger one have the same fuel economy? No. Is the larger one more useful? Yes.

I would focus on using your phone and not making time to criticise it. Or set up a spreadsheet, so you can compare different phones (the i6 and Plus are very different) and you can see which ones to criticise from there.
 
It costs more as its larger, battery is larger, screen is larger, screen is higher res.

You mentioned entry level, you mentioned i6.

My suggestion is to start a thread where the 6 Plus gets 16GB RAM as you have a fetish with RAM, as many others here have told you. That won't help as its not a RAM issue. Or get a phone that suits your needs better

Car analogy. You have two choices, the 4 door sedan, or the long station wagon, which gives you much more utlility. Typically, they have the same engine as they are the same car, one is larger. So, does the larger one go as fast? No. Does the larger one have the same fuel economy? No. Is the larger one more useful? Yes.

I would focus on using your phone and not making time to criticise it. Or set up a spreadsheet, so you can compare different phones (the i6 and Plus are very different) and you can see which ones to criticise from there.

I actually said that the 6+ isn't entry level so why does it perform worse than the i6. You are assuming by that, incorrectly, that I was saying the i6 is entry level. I was merely saying that the 6+ should not perform any worse than the i6 as it costs more! What is so outrageous about that comment? I'm well aware that the i6 is basically the same phone with a smaller, lower res screen, a smaller battery, no optical image stabilisation and an inferior loudspeaker. Not once have I said that the i6 is a worse phone and in fact quite the opposite.
Oh and by the way, you will never manage to convince me that either variant of the iPhone 6 has sufficient RAM.
 
It costs more as its larger, battery is larger, screen is larger, screen is higher res.

You mentioned entry level, you mentioned i6.

My suggestion is to start a thread where the 6 Plus gets 16GB RAM as you have a fetish with RAM, as many others here have told you. That won't help as its not a RAM issue. Or get a phone that suits your needs better

Car analogy. You have two choices, the 4 door sedan, or the long station wagon, which gives you much more utlility. Typically, they have the same engine as they are the same car, one is larger. So, does the larger one go as fast? No. Does the larger one have the same fuel economy? No. Is the larger one more useful? Yes.

I would focus on using your phone and not making time to criticise it. Or set up a spreadsheet, so you can compare different phones (the i6 and Plus are very different) and you can see which ones to criticise from there.

"That won't help as its not a RAM issue."

I'm so sick and tired of reading this blatantly false garbage on here. If it was software (which it's NOT software isn't going to magically make up for a lack of hardware) I imagine this would be fixed by now don't you?
 
I actually said that the 6+ isn't entry level so why does it perform worse than the i6. You are assuming by that, incorrectly, that I was saying the i6 is entry level. I was merely saying that the 6+ should not perform any worse than the i6 as it costs more! What is so outrageous about that comment? I'm well aware that the i6 is basically the same phone with a smaller, lower res screen, a smaller battery, no optical image stabilisation and an inferior loudspeaker. Not once have I said that the i6 is a worse phone and in fact quite the opposite.
Oh and by the way, you will never manage to convince me that either variant of the iPhone 6 has sufficient RAM.
Despite the whole "car analogy" part of it, it seems like that analogy in a previous reply provided fairly good comparative explanations addressing the cost and the performance pieces of it all.
 
The plus should never overshadow the regular size. The "regular" size has been the flagship forever, so once you start forcing people into spending $100 more for the true flagship, they will get mad. Especially since they will need to deal with a screen size that could potentially become inconveniently large.

That being said, I don't think they should have identical specs. The plus size should be *just* enough more powerful to perform the same.

Once they squeeze 2GB of RAM into the iPhones, there won't be as many issues. 2GB of RAM in both devices alone would fix a ton of things. (I've heard iOS 8 caches the animations in the RAM, so that would fix a ton of lag issues) If they clocked the plus just a bit faster to deal with the pixels, on top of the extra RAM present in both phones, things would work perfectly. I'm pretty sure this sort of thing will happen with the 6S series.
 
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