Interesting. Well, I played with both for half an hour and both seemed fine, fast and cool. Enough for me, but hey, want slo mo - do slo mo.
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iPhone 6 Plus Lag Poll
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Interesting. Well, I played with both for half an hour and both seemed fine, fast and cool. Enough for me, but hey, want slo mo - do slo mo.
The iPad Air with higher resolution and a GPU does not lag like the 6+. I think they need to fix the downscaling process.
What a hack by the way.
Hal~9000. First of all Apple isn't a religion. They want your money and they market to you to suck money out of you. Steve Jobs was right in many respects that the 300 ppi at x distance was basically a sweat spot for screens: it's tough for the AVERAGE human eye to notice individual pixels. The closer you hold the device to your eyes, the more you can see pixels, however. So there's a logarithmic curve this follows (closer/farther away).
That does NOT mean in any fashion, and neither did he probably believe... that higher PPI would result in a degraded screen that people wouldn't notice. More ppi provides a sharper image. It's smoother in regards to anti-aliasing. Everything looks sharper. The difference is marked. That's not to say the 326 ppi isn't good. It is. But the 401 ppi is that much better.
326 ppi was never a magic number -- it was the result of Apple doubling both the vertical and horizontal pixel count between the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 so that they could keep the number of virtual "points" the same for developers, which made the transition relatively painless.
The degree to which a display is "retina" is dependent on not only the ppi, but also how far away the display is from your eyes. For most people with 20/20 vision, adding more ppi than 326 will not be discernible past ~11 inches.
Personally, I think 400 ppi or so is the sweet spot, because I sometimes hold the phone a little closer than that. That said, other aspects of display quality (contrast, brightness when used in sunlight, color accuracy, etc.) are more important points to improve once we have sufficient ppi.
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I'm not sure if you saw my post but I said 300 ppi being a magic number at x distance. That's the reference. There's studies and scientific articles and research done both before and Apple did its Retina unveil. Apple's iPhone ended up being 326 ppi. The smaller the device, the closer you typically hold it and the more ppi you'll need to offset the average person's ability to discern pixels. As with everything, "average" is just what that means. It doesn't account for all the variability out there. So people with above average eyesight (above 20/20) may be able to discern pixels of 300 ppi at x distance whereas another person who is average may not.
Having more ppi is thus the answer to account for such variability.
I'm not sure if you saw my post but I said 300 ppi being a magic number at x distance. That's the reference. There's studies and scientific articles and research done both before and Apple did its Retina unveil. Apple's iPhone ended up being 326 ppi. The smaller the device, the closer you typically hold it and the more ppi you'll need to offset the average person's ability to discern pixels. As with everything, "average" is just what that means. It doesn't account for all the variability out there. So people with above average eyesight (above 20/20) may be able to discern pixels of 300 ppi at x distance whereas another person who is average may not.
Having more ppi is thus the answer to account for such variability.
Yeah, it would have been a much cleaner solution if they could have used a display that matched the rendering resolution of the 6+. I suspect that Apple realized that their manufacturing partners (LG, Sharp) wouldn't be able to get them enough displays at that resolution and had to turn to readily available 1080p displays in order to get the phone on the market on time.
I'd be shocked if Apple doesn't use a 2208x1242 display in the iPhone 7 Plus, or possibly as soon as the 7S Plus.
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Well yes, every ppi has a "magic number" at some distance. In the case of the iPhone 4, the 326ppi number wasn't ordained to be the perfect ppi for a smartphone, it just happened to be what you get when you exactly double the vertical and horizontal resolution of the 480x320 iPhones. Doubling each was by far the easiest way to increase resolution without dramatically changing the way that iOS works -- and it was the same thing that they did for the iPads and Macbook Pros.
That doesn't necessarily mean the ppi that each of these devices came up with is optimal -- I'd argue, for instance, that people often are using their phone from closer than 11 inches and something in the 400-450 ppi range is the optimal number.
326 ppi for the iPhone 6 with a new set of points to match to was, in Apple's estimation, the best compromise to maintain decent battery life and phone thickness this time around. It certainly doesn't mean that a 4.7" iPhone will forever have this resolution. If anything, Apple has indicated that they want to go to 400+ when its feasible.
Makes sense. I wish Apple would stay true to the point Tim Cook made about only releasing a product when it's ready. The 6+, like the iPad 3, was rushed to market with some serious flaws. The 6 is truer to that vision and the apps look better (so far) and the graphics are cleaner.
Why not release the 6+ in six months when the 2208x1242 displays were ready? They're already behind the Quad HD devices on the market now anyway.
I have no lag on mine. Also I believe the black screen is due to the Facebook app not the iPhone 6+ itself
Keep in mind alot of apps still have to be recompiled for iOS 8 and the new Apple A8 proccesors in the phone.
Also as more updates come from Apple (i.e 8.0.3 and beyond) tons of kinks and glitches will be ironed out, the GX6540 GPU in the 6 Plus and 6 are far more then capable of running at 1080p resolution very smoothly.
It just seems iOS 8 wasnt fully entirely optimized for the new iPhones yet(tad rushed but) in one month thousands of apps will have been updated then and also new OS update from Apple.
I have experienced absolutely no UI lag ever on my 6, its the fastest smartphone I ever owned hands down
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No there not what are you talking about lol?
The 6 Plus panel is better then the G3 LCD panel in basically every single way, the 6 and 6 Plus have the best LCD displays in a smartphone
LagZILLA.
I've seen it on every +. Showed it to a guy at BestBuy today on a demo unit even.
It's a HARDWARE fault thanks to the 1080 screen and required downscaling to get there.
The 6+ is gimped. You can claim it doesn't bother you, or that you don't see it, but it's a factual statement that because of DESIGN its inferior to the 6 in terms of lag.
Live with it if you want. Maybe the 6S+ will fix it...
I've seen it on every +. Showed it to a guy at BestBuy today on a demo unit even.
It's a HARDWARE fault thanks to the 1080 screen and required downscaling to get there.
The 6+ is gimped. You can claim it doesn't bother you, or that you don't see it, but it's a factual statement that because of DESIGN its inferior to the 6 in terms of lag.
Live with it if you want. Maybe the 6S+ will fix it...
I am not personally experiencing lag in native iOS 8.0.2 - only seeing some minor lag in opening third party apps and it feels more like its a split second delay due to scaling (my iPad launches iPhone apps with a similar split second delay). I feel that when apps release optimized for 6+ and iOS 8 they will get faster.
Perhaps others are experiencing significantly worse lag, but if the lag is so small it's barely noticeable (like mine) I don't see why it's such a big deal to everyone.
Then again, there is wailing and gnashing of teeth about the app scaling on the 6+ too and I don't mind the way the scaled apps look at all, so maybe this sort of thing just bothers me less.
Perhaps others are experiencing significantly worse lag, but if the lag is so small it's barely noticeable (like mine) I don't see why it's such a big deal to everyone.
Then again, there is wailing and gnashing of teeth about the app scaling on the 6+ too and I don't mind the way the scaled apps look at all, so maybe this sort of thing just bothers me less.
It's always the same for many major iOS releases I've seen. I've had every iPhone since the 3G and same thing happens every time we get a x.0 version of iOS. It takes Apple until about March or so to get iOS to run 100% smooth. Also app develops have to do a lot more work so that their apps can run smoothly on the 6+ because of the new screen size. It will be fine soon though. After every update you'll see improvement.
I'm not talking about the display itself. I'm talking about how iOS renders at a higher resolution and downscales to FullHD and the glitches associated with it. I've seen the 6 and it doesn't have this issue.
I don't know what phones you guys have, but my Plus is lightening fast and buttery smooth. The only thing I notice is there are a few more milliseconds before I can touch the app I want to switch to in the task switcher, but I think that's a function of IOS8.
I have a 6+ and I don't notice anything besides opening an app that isn't updated for the increased resolution for the phone. For the first week i didn't close one background app or safari page and I was fine except for the issue above.
Now what I realize too is people are saying "omg lag!" But what is lag to you? Is it 5 ms, 20 ms? 5 seconds? Latency is different for everyone. I set my iPhone up as a new phone not a iCloud restore, if that happens to be a factor.
And I agree with who ever said it first, some people really have a bug up their butt about the 6+ I don't get it.
Now what I realize too is people are saying "omg lag!" But what is lag to you? Is it 5 ms, 20 ms? 5 seconds? Latency is different for everyone. I set my iPhone up as a new phone not a iCloud restore, if that happens to be a factor.
And I agree with who ever said it first, some people really have a bug up their butt about the 6+ I don't get it.
I've owned a 16GB (just waiting for higher storage to become available) space gray 6+ for att since Friday and I haven't experienced any lag whatsoever. I even tried to produce it by opening about 25-30 apps, scrolling through them and using spotlight... No lag. The only issues I've had are some bugs with IOS 8, very few, but as an IOS user I'm used to zero.
I bought this phone with every intention of returning it because of the low memory ('m just impatient and wanted one in the meantime) so naturally I was happy to have a "trial run" with the plus model in case it was too big for me. That's not the case, I love the screen size and eill definitely be exchanging for another Plus.
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Also in regards to battery life, I've experineced much better battery life than my 5. That's to be expected from a new phone/battery, but it's exponetially better. At 3:15 EST I took it off the charger with 100% and at 10:15 EST it's now at 74%. I've been using it pretty heavily in this period with fantasy football/messaging/browsing Safari/playing with the new camera. I'm pretty impressed.
I bought this phone with every intention of returning it because of the low memory ('m just impatient and wanted one in the meantime) so naturally I was happy to have a "trial run" with the plus model in case it was too big for me. That's not the case, I love the screen size and eill definitely be exchanging for another Plus.
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Also in regards to battery life, I've experineced much better battery life than my 5. That's to be expected from a new phone/battery, but it's exponetially better. At 3:15 EST I took it off the charger with 100% and at 10:15 EST it's now at 74%. I've been using it pretty heavily in this period with fantasy football/messaging/browsing Safari/playing with the new camera. I'm pretty impressed.
iPhone 6 Plus Lag Poll
As a disclaimer the plus is an amazing phone and I'm keeping it. I think I notice the lag the most in scrolling up and down pages. Like choosing a wallpaper. Has a very noticeable stutter. Surprisingly it doesn't bother me. It doesn't hinder how I use my phone but it's definitely there. I can't vote in the poll from tapatalk.
Also. The battery is damn amazing.
As a disclaimer the plus is an amazing phone and I'm keeping it. I think I notice the lag the most in scrolling up and down pages. Like choosing a wallpaper. Has a very noticeable stutter. Surprisingly it doesn't bother me. It doesn't hinder how I use my phone but it's definitely there. I can't vote in the poll from tapatalk.
Also. The battery is damn amazing.
I'd like for someone to correct me in saying that this is something that can NOT be fixed by firmware. Everything throughout the phone is being rendered in a resolution higher than the screen resolution then being down scaled. Nothing devs can do to change this.
mine did at first but stopped not sure if IOS 8.2 fixed that but gone for most part now, i did get a few msgs today in gray by top of safari that page was reloaded, you could then "X" it out....????