No, that's the difference, I don't care about other people's decisions. I care about mines. And since you were the one who brought up that issue, I think the one that needs to grow up is not me.
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iPhone 6 Plus Might Be Limited to 1 GB of RAM
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No, that's the difference, I don't care about other people's decisions. I care about mines. And since you were the one who brought up that issue, I think the one that needs to grow up is not me.
Ahhh, mines, terrific, funny how a particular word used can totally sum up who a person is. Thanks!
I have a 4th gen 128gb iPad and I get reloading problems a lot with Chrome plus the odd crash with certain apps.
It wouldn't have killed Apple to have upgraded the RAM to 2gb as it would have been easier to have erred on the side of caution when it comes to this sort of thing.
If all you want is a phone, perhaps you should get a non-smartphone. You don't sound like the sort who need an iPhone.
For the rest of us, Safari tab browsing is an issue. When Safari needlessly reloads a tab, it slows down and it burns precious bandwidth. More RAM would solve performance issues, but Apple could solve the bandwidth issue by enlarging Safari's NAND cache.
Also, Apple usually shares the iPhone SoC design with the iPads, changing CPU frequency at most (which I believe can be done with firmware). 1GB is even more limiting on a tablet.
Wow people have surely been drinking the Samsung kool-aid! I have a 5s and an iPad Air and have yet to notice this legendary slow-down or Safari issues that supposedly exist. I'm currently running iOS 8 GM on both, but even with iOS 7, the devices were fast and responsive. These are not laptops or desktops. I'm not playing BF4 Multiplayer on max settings on these things. Specs are a game Samsung is playing because they know Americans for the most part believe that more always equals better. Apple has never played this game and never will because they believe in system integration not a hodgepodge of parts to sound more impressive than it is. This is why the benchmarks usually put Apple devices on top against the competition even with "lesser" specs. Get a grip people. You won't notice the difference between 1-2 gb ram in a smartphone except in things like battery life.
I actually happen to be one of those people who DOES give a damn about specs for a device such as a phone and that's why I'm borderline over the iPhone 6 Plus right now...
Conformists. I pity you. Seriously. Please don't tell me what I can say and what I can't. My phone has this issue, I'm just saying it has said issue, and that's your answer? Instead of trying to fix said issue, you say I need to chill?
And again, I need said device for research, That's important for me, and I can't even do that without Safari reloading. If that doesn't annoy you, that's fine. However, don't try people to minimize it. We have different opinions, if you don't care, cool. I do, respect that.
But apparently you care since you are replying.
LOL so because Safari tabs isnt a big deal for me, means I dont need a smartphone? When did you put cameras in my home to know who I am, what I do and how I use my phone? I mean, I can't possibly not do anything heavy on my phone, I'm not all bent out about 1GB RAM, life is over.....You realize there's a million productive things on a phone besides the ol' safari browser right? Safari must be a horribly important part of your business and life if you're that sore over this, the horror bro, the horror. I wihs you luck in whichever product you choose, I hope you can have lots of tabs, and lots of RAM, you seem important, I hope you get it!
Apple actually explained why and it has been discussed here to death. It had little or nothing to do with marketing and a lot to do with efficient on-the-fly decryption for touch-id data. There are instructions available to 64-bit ARM that don't exist for 32-bit processors.
You will of course continue to believe whatever you likeTruth be damned.
That was a year ago. What is their excuse this year? Looks pretty stupid to keep recycling the same speed benefit over and over again when the true benefit of 64bit is accessing more memory. To me you only got one year to brag about increased performance from using 64bit. Judging from the preliminary benchmarks we hardly see an increase in performance from 2013 to 2014.
Easy, showing a webpage takes up a lot of RAM. The text has to be rasterised (usually done by the CPU), the CSS needs to be rasterised, i.e. the curves, shadows, colours, etc so they can be stuck together to make the final webpage. Any images (jpegs, pngs, etc) need to be decompressed into memory so they can rendered (a 1024x1024 RGB 60kb JPEG actually uses 3MB of memory when it's decompressed) all of these elements mentioned here will be contained in memory separately and then composited together before being sent to the GPU for displaying to the screen.
All of this is on top of the memory required for the JS engine, the CSS and HTML processors.
Think of it this way, if you try to look at each box on a webpage as an individual rendered RGBA image which has to be held in memory ready to be recomposed together at any point when the user starts scrolling or a piece of JS moves an element, it all adds up to a lot of memory being used!
On iOS Safari dumps this rasterised cache during low memory scenarios and instead stores a single static greyscale representation of the webpage, if you want to see the page again it has to reload and re-rasterise it, using up loads of memory again.
There is work being done to get some of this work done by the GPU but I don't believe we are there yet as a lot of the work is still done on the CPU and held in main system memory. Obviously as iOS has Unified Memory Architecture all of this needs to live together in one place, hence why it constantly reloads.
References:
http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/gpu-accelerated-compositing-in-chrome
I actually dont care, I just like seeing what you type. And you're doing research in Safari on your phone?? Must be tremendous research. I mean dont all the greats use their iPhones for research? That research of yours must be top notch stuff, real important!
And yeah you do need to chill, think about it, you're upset because tabs reload in safari, let me type that again, yo're sad because tabs reload in safari. Now sit on that,.....yeah you need to chill. Not even chill, more like realize you're not doing serious research on your phone, and having tabs reload in safari is the world most meaningless issue, seriously man, think about it. When you look back on life one day, youre going to sit back and laugh at how you wasted even a minutes worth of air and life on caring about safari tabs reloading. I'm curious, how old are you? Don't lie....I'm just curious if an adult with everyday bills and issues and life is this bent over tabs in safari reloading...
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You are the one that doesn't get it. The 6+ does not have 2 GB of RAM because it doesn't need 2 GB of RAM.
Making comments like "$700 plus for a phone i should get more RAM"
...is all I really need to evaluate your capability of carrying this conversation.
That is the problem. Exactly, it is not even something big or important, it is just some text and Safari can't even handle that without reloading.
But let's take a look at your logic.
1.- I have a problem with my phone.
2.- I come here and say I have a problem with my phone.
3.- I say I need my phone to work properly for me to do my research.
4.- Instead of people trying to make Apple fix the problem, people say that since what I am doing is not important, I should just shut up.
5.- Apple is never wrong, and somehow it was my fault, and if I don't like it, I can buy an Android device.
Wow.
Smartest guy here and he wins based on facts and logic.
Let's see how the trolls creep in to tear his posts apart just because they need some sort of validation for buying a ridiculously overpriced "phone" that is lagging behind the rest of the tech world (not just Android).
All 1gigers need to feel safe and secure with their purchase and advocates of more RAM seem to destroy their illusion. Not sure if these are projections of their ego's or not... I am sure they are this annoying in real life and I pray I never meet any of them.
It's not just text. Basically the text needs to be turned into images, just like the CSS so it can be rendered on screen by a GPU, and this all needs to be cached otherwise animations would be slow, scrolling would be horrific, etc. This isn't the 70's anymore when screens were designed to just display text.
I'll wait for official analysis of the devices but if the new iPhones have 1GB it's really not acceptable. These are pocket computers and they are expensive. RAM is cheap. Constant refreshing of tabs/apps is not acceptable. I really can't see how Apple can't put 2GB in a device heading into 2015.
I don't need to lie, I am 21. I need the phone to do research, to study, and I need tabs to stop reloading, because I waste time (time that I don't have) waiting Safari to reload, and then locate what I was reading.
It is not a big deal, but it wastes time. Maybe someday I will laugh about it, but not today. If you don't care, then that's fine. But people who use the phone for something serious do. Specially since it doesn't need to happen. And the issue could be fixed.
I doubt the image in the article is really from a 6 plus. The UI elements on the 6 plus aren't merely a blown up 16:9 image. The Elements on screen would have different proportions vs a 5s or 6. On a 6 plus the sim/carrier and batter elements would be spaced out more to keep the actual text proportioned the screens physical dimensions.
When did I say 5? I never said they were never wrong, everyone is always wrong, no one is perfect. As for number 4, I never said shut up, I did say what you're doing isn't important but never said shut up, I said smoke weed and chill, enjoy life...
Also quote the rest of my post next time, that way you can better get the point i am making, which is you're all pent up over RAM on a phone. I wish I knew you or were close by , I'd come pick you up, buy you a beverage or lunch and just hang out with ya.
But, if having tabs in safair or any browser is so important, why not try another device? Is that so wrong to suggest, if one doesn't meet your needs, why not try one that does? How is that bad for someone to suggest?
Spot on!
People say **** about android users and their forums but you know what... I've been attacked and ridiculed more here than I have on any other tech forum in all my years.
1gigers (any koolaid drinkers) are rude and show absolutely nothing but bitter anecdotes to back their claims. 1gigers, you are the vocal minority. Many forum members won't jump in to voice their opinion because you make this a hostile forum. One that is worth leaving for greener pastures.
What images, what animations? It is just a plain text website. With maybe 1 or 2 images. And sorry, I don't know all that. I don't have too. I just want Safari not to reload.
Thanks for replying with your age, 21 explains it all. Not saying thats bad, wish I was 21 again, just saying you're 21, you're years away from not caring about these things. I can't wait until these things mean zero to you, life is going to be awesome from then on.
Good luck on your phone research.
Why would I need to try another device? Wouldn't it be better that Apple tried to fix the problem?
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That is what I don't get. If you don't care about this stuff anymore, I envy you. How cool that you are in a position where you couldn't care less.
Maybe my "phone research" is meaningless to you, but for me is very important. I need it.
But since my money has the same value as your money, why is it so bad that I complain about this issue? That's all I ask.