iPhone 6 Plus Might Be Limited to 1 GB of RAM

Crossmax said:
Enough with all the "still outperforms Android" comments. More RAM is little about raw performance running benchmark tests, and much more about not having to reload apps or browser tabs.

My 4S (granted it only has 512 MB) has to reload all apps as soon as I attempt to take a panorama pic, and it often crashes Runkeeper during my MTB rides when I stop to take a picture or whatever. Very annoying to notice that my activity hasn't been logged once I'm done.

Sure, 1 GB is twice as much, but then again, the 4S was working fine with iOS5. My issue is that come iOS 9 or 10, the 1 GB in the iPhone 6 will be insufficient, and that shouldn't be the case for such an expensive phone.
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Exactly. This is a smart one here.

When apple introduces new versions of IOS with more features, watch the 6 (and the 6+ in particular) take a hit in performance. FOr $700 plus in 2014 i dont think asking for more ram is too much to ask. Unfortunately some ppl here dont get it.
 
mdelvecchio said:
nope -- not according to experts who actually make these things, like microsoft's Steven Sinofsky:

Something that might not be obvious is that minimizing memory usage on low-power platforms can prolong battery life. Huh? In any PC, RAM is constantly consuming power. If an OS uses a lot of memory, it can force device manufacturers to include more physical RAM. The more RAM you have on board, the more power it uses, the less battery life you get. Having additional RAM on a tablet device can, in some instances, shave days off the amount of time the tablet can sit on your coffee table looking off but staying fresh and up to date.​

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/10/12/ram-energy
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This may be the case, but I suspect most of us have to recharge our phones much more frequently than the "stand-by" period would indicate... Quite frankly, that's one battery life measure that I couldn't really care less about.

Clint
 
I guess I'm one of the "normal" users who is fine with it. Even the Safari reloads on my Air don't get on my nerves too much. I just like having a phone that can integrate with my tablet and computer so I'll take the iphone any day. Plus, on my phone I tend to close other open safari windows anyway. Yeah, 2GB or more would be nice but I'm sure I'll be just fine with my 6+. :)
 
smulji said:
I thought RAM was part of the processor. If both, the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, are using the A8 processor, how can one have 1GB and the other 2GB? Wouldn't the processors have different names then?
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Not necessarily. Look at the A7. The one in the iPhone 5s and iPad mini is different then the one in the iPad Air. The one in the Air is designed on the silicon level like the A5X/A6X with a quicker path from the GPU to the RAM. Its also 100MHz faster and because of the extra heat requires a heat spreader. Now, they do have different model numbers and because one has the heat spreader it looks physically different, however Apple markets both chips under the "A7" moniker.

The A5 is similar with 3 versions; the regular A5 found in the iPad mini, iPhone 4s, Apple TV 3rd Gen Rev A (1 core was disabled), A5X found in the 3rd Gen iPad with Retina Display, and the A5 single core found in the Apple TV 3rd Gen Rev B.

Also, the A-series of chips are actually SoCs (System on a Chip). This means the RAM, processor, cache, memory controller, and GPU are all integrated into one chip.
 
I always wait until the second iteration of each generation, simply due to my upgrade cycle. However, I doubt they'll go with 2GB on the 6S.

Kinda sucks, but whatever.
 
Stop making excuses for apple. No it doesn't cost performance to put 2GB of RAM in a phone I'd be paying over 1k for. Oh better software hardware integration blah blah blah...I have the iPad Air and the constant tab reloads are annoying as hell. It's so obvious Apple is drop feeding specs and is waiting for 6S to finally give us 2GB of RAM it's not even funny. If this is true, I'm gonna stick to my HTC One M7 for as long as I have to until they put 2GB of RAM in the iphone. I'm not gonna spend 1k to DOWNGRADE.
 
LOL, alot of people bent out of shape over RAM? I'd love to see how these people would react if they found out they had cancer, my god. It's a phone. Jesus. All over some tabs in safari not reloading, lol. My god. Thank god I can enjoy these forums, without worrying about these stupid things, I feel like one of the few people who just likes using GADGETS in general, who cares about specs if it works.
 
barondebxl said:
"Any OTHER scenario" you say...as if that wasnt annoying already? It is very annoying to do something then come back to the web page just to have it reload on you. Is 1 more GB of ram too much to ask? Are you gonna wait until the iphone crawls to finally demand more?
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That's what I thought. Thanks.

It doesn't annoy me in the least bit, and it doesn't HAPPEN to me either unless I have something on the order of 7-10 tabs open at once....which is also almost never the case.

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AverageBob said:
Stop making excuses for apple.
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Stop commenting on that which you are completely clueless.
 
blackcrayon said:
No, Apple has never talked about RAM in an ad or a keynote. Closest you could come to that would be some of the WWDC developer sessions. Definitely not something they would advertise if they increased it just like they didn't mention increasing from 512 in the 4s to 1 GB in the 5.

Considering the engineering going into the SoC in the iPhone 6, I'm not so sure the 1 GB is ONLY a cost issue of saving a couple dollars or not. I think we'll find out when/if Anandtech is able to take a really detailed look at how it's designed. Apple improved the iPhone 6 in all sorts of ways that don't show up on spec sheets. It doesn't seem like they would skimp on RAM just to save money if it hurt performance, and then spend tons on other parts of the device.
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That's fair. I think I'll wait and see.

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Padmini said:
That's what I thought. Thanks.

It doesn't annoy me in the least bit, and it doesn't HAPPEN to me either unless I have something on the order of 7-10 tabs open at once....which is also almost never the case.

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Stop commenting on that which you are completely clueless.
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Well, it annoys some people. And it happens to me with 2 tabs, no other apps open.
 
barondebxl said:
What a freaking joke apple, 1GB of Ram really? On a 64 bit SoC? Ridiculous. Havent they learned anything about the ipad air ram issues? Apple know they can get away with this cause iphone users are not too tech savy.
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LOL, really? I want to be a kid again like you, when nothing mattered and you could care about phones so much....and if you're an adult, then my god man.
 
iphone1105 said:
LOL, alot of people bent out of shape over RAM? I'd love to see how these people would react if they found out they had cancer, my god. It's a phone. Jesus. All over some tabs in safari not reloading, lol. My god. Thank god I can enjoy these forums, without worrying about these stupid things, I feel like one of the few people who just likes using GADGETS in general, who cares about specs if it works.
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Go over to the free U2 album thread. People are angry they got a free U2 Album shoved down their throat when they didn't ask for it. One poster even mocked the fact it was an Album and much rather have U2 donate money instead to the people instead.
 
iphone1105 said:
LOL, alot of people bent out of shape over RAM? I'd love to see how these people would react if they found out they had cancer, my god. It's a phone. Jesus. All over some tabs in safari not reloading, lol. My god. Thank god I can enjoy these forums, without worrying about these stupid things, I feel like one of the few people who just likes using GADGETS in general, who cares about specs if it works.
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You would care if you used your devices for something important.
I pay for something, I expect it to work properly.

If it doesn't annoy you, then fine, but let people express what they think.

And the issue is that Safari tabs RELOAD. If you are gonna criticize people at least take the time to read what the problem is.
 
I just can't help but wonder if you have really fast internal storage how much of a difference more internal RAM makes. You can probably push code in and out pretty quickly.
 
iamMacPerson said:
Well, actually the first 1GB device was the iPhone 5 and that had iOS 6, but I get your point. Its not that we want more RAM just to look good on a spec sheet, we need more RAM, if for no other reason then the display having to render twice on the Plus. Hell, it could 1.5GB of RAM, as long as it runs smoothly I don't care.
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I keep forgetting the 4S had 512mb of RAM for some reason, but yeah anything would be an improvement over 1GB for the iPhone 6+.
 
OatmealRocks said:
Go over to the free U2 album thread. People are angry they got a free U2 Album shoved down their throat when they didn't ask for it. One poster even mocked the fact it was an Album and much rather have U2 donate money instead to the people instead.
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Kids these days...


Soni Sanjay said:
You would care if you used your devices for something important.
I pay for something, I expect it to work properly.

If it doesn't annoy you, then fine, but let people express what they think.

And the issue is that Safari tabs RELOAD. If you are gonna criticize people at least take the time to read what the problem is.
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You need a hug man, you realize this is all over a phone right? i suggest moving to a marijuana friendly state and partaking, you could use something to chill on man. Once again its a phone, oh and BTW if you're doing serious/imprtant work on a phone, you're not doing serious work FYI, you may think you are, but you're really not. Those things are done on computers, seriosu things at least. But I am sure knowing you, you'll reply how you're launching the MARS ROVER on your phone, but you can't because the ram limits you and having only 2 safari tabs doesnt allow you to type launch codes...

But yeah man it's a phone, remeber that. No one told you you were dying.....
 
randj89 said:
IOS is so good with memory management that I don't care how much ram I have. Like hello you're not gonna do 10 different things in your phone at the exact same second. For me 1GB is enough on a phone.

In a computer is a total different world for us graphic artists and web developers or even home users.
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iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, iPad 1, iPad 3 prove otherwise.
 
Pathetic and inexcusable given the cost of RAM.

An extra GB of RAM may not even use more power since it would result in less paging to the NAND, which is more power hungry than RAM. Even if it did use more power, the solution is simple: use a bigger battery. If these iPhones were 1mm thicker, nobody would notice or complain.

Android will soon surge ahead in multitasking capability and performance. I'd hoped to replace my Nexus 7 with an iPad, but it's looking less and less likely as Apple adds iOS and hardware features at a slow drip, compared to the flood of improvements to Android.
 
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