iPhone 6 Plus Teardown: Twice as Big a Battery as iPhone 5s [Update: 1 GB RAM Confirmed]

[RockSpider]

"LG G3 and Galaxy Note 3 and 4 all have 3Gb of ram. Just saying. Next year it will be 4Gb ram."

And Apple will still have 1GB and 16GB storage because it's cheaper for them. Apple knows what's good for us, just like IOS 8 ruining the battery life on my iPad Air.

 

[HitchHykr]

Only a few more hours for those in the US!!

I will pull an Adrian Peterson or Ray Rice on anyone that tries to cut in front of me at the Apple Store.

BEWARE.

If you were like the Bucs defense you would let everybody through

 

[BigCanoe]

You're continually asserting that Apple is making RAM decisions based solely on profit concerns does not make it true.

RAM is redicoulusly cheap. The cost of increasing it to 2GB would be minimal and would have a tiny impact on profit. If increasing the RAM would be add such an incredible increase to performance, why wouldn't they do it? They spend far more on other system components where they could gimp them to try and squeeze more profit out of it at the sacrifice of performance.

Why don't they increase the RAM. Simple, it doesn't need it, period.

Why not put 2GB in, whats the downside? Too hot, too much battery drain, too expensive, too big, slows things down? Dont pull a Bill Gates here..."640K ought to be enough for anybody."

 

[Scarpad]

The Iphone 6 has a vibrator, my girlfriend will be happy.

 

[Cactii]

As long as it is better than my Nexus 4 I'm all good.

 

[0092762]

I missed your point here .... why you move to ip6 at all but not stay with ip5S since both - 6 and 6+ have the same 1GB ram and you expect to face issues with that? It was better simply to pass this year and to wait 2015's ip6S ....

I want a bigger screen, but if it was 2GB, I'd have gotten a phone I'd use for 3-4 years. Now, it's only for a year so I'll get the cheapest version

 

[V_Man]

Apple makes it their priority to make products that delight customers. Making major profits is a byproduct of making products that delight customers.

Try reversing that. Apple is all about profits first. If you think otherwise you wrong. Yes they make a great phone. But profits are their 1st priority

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Do you all honestly believe that a company that spends as much on R&D as Apple, that is as heavily scrutinized as Apple, and that has over $100B sitting in the bank like Apple, would seriously choose to nickel and dime their customers and hamstring their flagship device for a relatively small amount of money that is an extra GB of RAM? I mean that just defies all logic or reason, clearly they have their reasons and clearly they've thought about it, and came to the conclusion 1 GB was right for this device at this time. Yes, when they're selling the volume they are even a small amount of money per device amounts to a lot when summed up, but they're smart enough to not be penny wise and pound foolish to put out a substandard product that would result in them losing customers in the long run.

Yes. Never doubt Apple's first priority $$$

 

[JeffyTheQuik]

Go my reservation for the 6+ 128GB Space grey one... Just a few more minutes! One of the cuter Apple women is walking around teasing everyone with a 6 and a 6+... Everyone wants her. To come over and let them handle her. Phones.

 

[hamiltonrwatch]

Boy, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard that....

I'D have 5¢

 

[karlwig]

What a BEAST of a size also.

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I think they are saving 2gb for the a model next year. Apple innovation seems to be decreasing steadily

Ugh, I can see it coming: "Still bigger than bigger. Now twice as big on the inside" or some crap like that

 

[hamiltonrwatch]

This is a problem seeing as how according to people on these forums the only app that uses RAM is Safari...

I've been using Apple products since the IIe. From my experience, they've always been very clever about optimizing RAM. Probably because "back-in-the-day", RAM was an expensive upgrade

My 6+ is arriving today and I'll know for sure in a bit.

 

[karlwig]

What is? Certainly not the savings aspect. In large scale manufacturing, if you can save a fraction of a penny with some hardware decision that does not affect the outcome too negatively, you jump on it. And collect a massive bonus for saving the company a huge stack of monies, at least in a perfect world.

Now, if you can save billions (well, hundreds of millions for sure) by offering less RAM (which nobody but the uber-geeks will ever know, since you don't give out these numbers), you'd be the dumbest person to ever have walked the face of this planet if you aren't all over it.

Duh, of course you save money by sticking to worse hardware. You can say that about anything.

The iPhone 6/Plus are prices as premium devices, and should be treated as such.

And I do think this will be an issue for normal people. Just wait for iOS 9.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

I would have to agree with this. I'm not entirely sure why some groups like the Android Authority wish to waste time and money on a drop test on such a nice device that someone could really use...

Not too mention the slaves that this harms to make the device.

 

[TallManNY]

Soon

Soon I will buy an iPhone 6. And that means a year or so from now I will be opening it and replacing its battery. So this repairability improvement is good news for me.

 

[pwhitehead]

Very cool. Yeah with bigger screens, comes more use with games and browsing the web. I feel because of this phones size, people will choose to use it more then their iPads, so making the battery bigger makes sense.

 

[Danyboy]

If you're referring to Samsung then you are correct.

No, he was referring at wanting to have 1Gb of RAM and being glad it's just 1Gb of RAM instead of more is like the dumbest thing you could possible say. You should receive some kind of prize for saying such a dumb thing.

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What's RAM?

Just 1 ****.ing Gb. Even the iPhone 6 Plus has only 1Gb of RAM. Yeah, if you open just one app at a time it will work. But try opening more than one app at a time and you'll soon find out what this RAM is good at. Apple just pushed me to the Samsung Note 4.

 

[chupachup]

We already knew both, that the battery is about 3,000mAh and that it had 1gb of ram.

 

[AppleHater]

I want a bigger screen, but if it was 2GB, I'd have gotten a phone I'd use for 3-4 years. Now, it's only for a year so I'll get the cheapest version

You just explained Apple's flow of logic on 1GB for iPhone 6. It's not profits, it's setting up reasons to upgrade. They don't want you keep the old one for long.

 

[xmichaelp]

Glad they stuck with 1GB. No reason we need any more. Still runs better than any Samsung phone.

Go away Phil Schiller.

 

[sk1wbw]

I've been using Apple products since the IIe. From my experience, they've always been very clever about optimizing RAM. Probably because "back-in-the-day", RAM was an expensive upgrade

My 6+ is arriving today and I'll know for sure in a bit.

The only reason I said that is because I mentioned the fact that on my iPhone 5c I closed out 50 backgrounded apps and I noticed no performance hit because I had that many apps opened and was told several times that I had no idea how memory worked. It works the same way on desktop computers.

 

[skratch77]

Love how the bigger plus has almost a 3000 mah battery.it proves how much power the bigger screen eats up and throws apples software and optimizations out the window from when people would compare I phones to androids.

The screen is the biggest battery hog and not the software.

 

[hamiltonrwatch]

It works the same way on desktop computers.

That's what I always thought as well; and very noticeable speed bumps with each successive model. I attributed that to faster processors.

BTW, here's what I'm replacing.

 

[jonnysods]

As long as it is better than my Nexus 4 I'm all good.

The 5 is better than the N4, you'll be pumped to use a 6!!

 

[joe-h2o]

No, he was referring at wanting to have 1Gb of RAM and being glad it's just 1Gb of RAM instead of more is like the dumbest thing you could possible say. You should receive some kind of prize for saying such a dumb thing.

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Just 1 ****.ing Gb. Even the iPhone 6 Plus has only 1Gb of RAM. Yeah, if you open just one app at a time it will work. But try opening more than one app at a time and you'll soon find out what this RAM is good at. Apple just pushed me to the Samsung Note 4.

I use multiple apps all day every day with my 5S and don't see this issue that apparently everyone is whining about so much to the point of cancelling orders or reducing the order down to the basic 6 with 16GB to "punish" Apple (hilariously, as if still buying the new phone punishes them at all - you just confirmed that they're on the right track).

I rarely have an app crash to the springboard either. I think I can count on one hand the number of times that has happened - I tend to remember it because it's so infrequent.

I think many users here have got into the Android mindset of "moar numberz = better because reasons" without actually having anything tangible to back that up. I mean, look - we already have people here trying to argue from authority that the iPhone 6 and 6+ has "inferior performance" without ever having used one or seen one in person. That should tell you how much weight to put behind these sorts of whiny complaints.

 

[mdelvecchio]

5 tabs is nothing. Try 10 and have other apps open in the background. Then see how 1GB holds up. If the next question is "why would you have all of that going at the same time?" , my question right back would be it's a premium smartphone that is advertised as being "the best" by Tim Cook and it should be able to do that in 2014.

Also, 1GB becomes less and less effective at handling operations as time goes on. Thus making the lifespan of this phone less than it should be

There is no legitimate argument against having 2GB of memory in iPhones and iPads these days. Battery life impact is negligible and it is strictly and solely a cost savings and thus profit increasing move to still use 1GB. Same goes for still keeping the 16GB iPhone but then jumping up to a 64 and then saying its a "deal" for consumers bc it's the same price as what the 32GB used to be. Right....

Power costs of doubling the ram is not "neglible" according to the people who actually build these products, like ex microsofts Steven Sinofsky:

Something that might not be obvious is that minimizing memory usage on low-power platforms can prolong battery life. Huh? In any PC, RAM is constantly consuming power. If an OS uses a lot of memory, it can force device manufacturers to include more physical RAM. The more RAM you have on board, the more power it uses, the less battery life you get. Having additional RAM on a tablet device can, in some instances, shave days off the amount of time the tablet can sit on your coffee table looking off but staying fresh and up to date.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/10/12/ram-energy

...he knows more than some people complaining on MR.

how many tabs and apps can Samsung run?

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I think they are saving 2gb for the a model next year. Apple innovation seems to be decreasing steadily

Yes because these devices make themselves thinner, implement Touch ID by themselves, develop 64-bit by themselves, design amazing new Mac pro by themselves, write iOS and OS X, etc... Certainly not the work and innovation of apple.