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for comparison, here is the insides of a Galaxy S5...

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Yes, thanks for destroying something in very short supply already.

Even if 100 videos were being produced about dropping or blending an iPhone 6, it would have negligible effect on the 6 million phones being shipped this week. Also, the starving kids in Timbuktu will gain no benefit from you eating all your peas. And sorry, Santa Claus can't travel to all houses in a single night.
 
if i was to borrow your argument...why increase the processor capability and performance then? if their goal is not to become like PC bloat in the 2000's as you referenced...why go from an A7 to an A8? the A7 isn't even fully utilized yet so why increase the processor?

memory is the most important aspect of computing (provided you have an adequate processor). it's what makes or breaks the experience. if you have lots of memory and a slow processor - you will get the job done, it will just take more time. if you have a stellar processor and not enough memory, you will get system crashes despite attempts to use virtual memory

I understand your point, and you are right. What I was trying to say is there may be other, not so obvious reasons for this design choice. If this was just about margins and if, as you say, memory is so important to user experience - and if apple was willing to sacrifice that user experience for that profit - surely there are other things they could sacrifice for more profit and with less impact on user experience. To turn your example back in yourself - why invest so much in developing new processors if they dont increase user experience much, while sacrificing memory to save a little.

So - in the end - we dont know, so I dont think its right to say this is all about profit.

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So they’re doing this with the soldered in RAM on the latest Macs too?

No i think thats a whole different set of design choices.
 
The vibrator was placed in a peculiar place.

My ex said a well placed vibrator with a bigger battery was better. But I don't trust him, he uses an Android phone.

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It's been confirmed multiple times that it's 1GB.
A user reported he had 5 Safari pages open without any refreshing so the RAM may not be as big a deal as some make it to be.

Having even one tumblr page with many images can cause refreshing. I am not sure that that will improve appreciably with 2MB of RAM, but the refreshing does interfere with my porn...I mean photo research.:mad:
 
1) is the phone even out yet for you to criticize?
2) are you seriously running 10 tabs at a time?
3) go buy an android device and tell me how many tabs you can use smoothly
4) because why not?

I can run 15 tabs without reload, and i say 15 because I haven't tried more than that. Buttery smooth. Want a video?
 
Ok found some numbers. The iPhone 6 runs at 1.2GHz and the iPhone 6 Plus runs at 1.4GHz. The multi core score on the Plus is about 11% faster at nearly 2900. That's about as fast as a 3GHz Core 2 Duo in the late 2009 iMac—with the same 1080p screen resolution—but in your pants. Whoa!

I can tell you right now that even the fastest arm processors are still miles behind intel cpus from 2009 other than the intel atom.
 
I can run 15 tabs without reload, and i say 15 because I haven't tried more than that. Buttery smooth. Want a video?
If that capability is important to you, definitely not for me, then enjoy what works. Millions don't care, thousands do, tens post on forums. :apple:
 
That’s a crock. If it’s the experience then they’d not waste time making the screen over 400ppi when apparently retina means we can’t tell the difference anyway. (They do post specs for this too).
Why harp on about 64 bit and fps and f2.2 and 1.5 microns and 4G and 3x faster and lots of other crap.

It’s because on the RAM front they have nothing to boast about. I promise you if they'd have put 4GB in the phone you’d hear about it on their site and you’d hear about how simply relevant it is here on MR.
They’d be gushing and having orgasms about the ‘experience’. Can you imagine the mess on the screens.


Again - all above are commercial tricks.... As I said - we should discuss the real phone behaviour, is there issues and lags etc, and based on that - can judge do we need more RAM, or less ppi, or less RAM and more pink colour for example :)
 
Sad about RAM

So, I'm here with my trusty iPhone4 - 4 years and one month after purchasing it - trying to decide which iPhone 6 to go for.

The iPhone4 has 512MB RAM. I've just ran Geekbench on it which gave a score of 199.

Up to this week; the iPhone 4 was on the latest available operating system.

Now, I look to the shiny iPhone6+ with 10x CPU performance; over 3x the pixels (before downsampling to the physical display) but only a doubling of what is probably the most important single component in a computer: its RAM.

It is this imbalance in the growth of the basic systems of the phone that disappoints me. I don't care about a multiple Safari tabs - but I do care about being able to move between different apps without then being closed down and resumed. For some apps this is nearly invisible - but for other such as TomTom this is not the case.

An earlier poster stated very rationally that Apple have simply placed in the phones the level of RAM that is required today - and that is indeed all Apple need to care about.

However; that's not what I care about. iOS 9,10,11 will come. They'll need more RAM - computing always does - and the iPhone 6/6+ won't have sufficient RAM when this time comes. I care about length of service I can get out of this - pretty expensive - piece of kit.

But will I hold off and wait for a mythical iPhone6S/S+ next year? No, I don't think so. But I will be a little sadder over the iPhone 6/+ purchase - mindful of trouble yet to come. :-/
 
If that capability is important to you, definitely not for me, then enjoy what works. Millions don't care, thousands do, tens post on forums. :apple:

But thousands, perhaps millions, call Apple Care every year complaining that the phone is rebooting by itself and that apps are crashing. Just because they don't know what RAM is and can't identify the problem, it doesn't mean the problem is not there.
 
Exactly

So, I'm here with my trusty iPhone4 - 4 years and one month after purchasing it - trying to decide which iPhone 6 to go for.

The iPhone4 has 512MB RAM. I've just ran Geekbench on it which gave a score of 199.

Up to this week; the iPhone 4 was on the latest available operating system.

Now, I look to the shiny iPhone6+ with 10x CPU performance; over 3x the pixels (before downsampling to the physical display) but only a doubling of what is probably the most important single component in a computer: its RAM.

It is this imbalance in the growth of the basic systems of the phone that disappoints me. I don't care about a multiple Safari tabs - but I do care about being able to move between different apps without then being closed down and resumed. For some apps this is nearly invisible - but for other such as TomTom this is not the case.

An earlier poster stated very rationally that Apple have simply placed in the phones the level of RAM that is required today - and that is indeed all Apple need to care about.

However; that's not what I care about. iOS 9,10,11 will come. They'll need more RAM - computing always does - and the iPhone 6/6+ won't have sufficient RAM when this time comes. I care about length of service I can get out of this - pretty expensive - piece of kit.

But will I hold off and wait for a mythical iPhone6S/S+ next year? No, I don't think so. But I will be a little sadder over the iPhone 6/+ purchase - mindful of trouble yet to come. :-/

I have been considering buying the 6+ and keeping it for at least 3 years. And I plan to keep my current iPad 3 until it breaks down, but not replace it, since I will have the Phablet that is 6+. But now, the 6+ is NOT a long-term investment.

I guess Apple somehow foresees this. Much fewer people will go after iPad if 6+ has 2GB RAM. Apple will definitely put 2GB on the new iPad.
 
So, I'm here with my trusty iPhone4 - 4 years and one month after purchasing it - trying to decide which iPhone 6 to go for.

The iPhone4 has 512MB RAM. I've just ran Geekbench on it which gave a score of 199.

Up to this week; the iPhone 4 was on the latest available operating system.

Now, I look to the shiny iPhone6+ with 10x CPU performance; over 3x the pixels (before downsampling to the physical display) but only a doubling of what is probably the most important single component in a computer: its RAM.

It is this imbalance in the growth of the basic systems of the phone that disappoints me. I don't care about a multiple Safari tabs - but I do care about being able to move between different apps without then being closed down and resumed. For some apps this is nearly invisible - but for other such as TomTom this is not the case.

An earlier poster stated very rationally that Apple have simply placed in the phones the level of RAM that is required today - and that is indeed all Apple need to care about.

However; that's not what I care about. iOS 9,10,11 will come. They'll need more RAM - computing always does - and the iPhone 6/6+ won't have sufficient RAM when this time comes. I care about length of service I can get out of this - pretty expensive - piece of kit.

But will I hold off and wait for a mythical iPhone6S/S+ next year? No, I don't think so. But I will be a little sadder over the iPhone 6/+ purchase - mindful of trouble yet to come. :-/

You hit the nail squarely on the head! I'm sure the 6's will run fine on IOS 8 with 1GB RAM, but how are they going to run in future versions of IOS that will most likely introduce true multitasking. I think the 6's will have an unnecessarily short shelf life due to the decision by Apple to go with 1GB RAM....similar to the iPhone 4 in my opinion.

But, like you, I'm going to buy one (6 Plus arrives tomorrow), and I'm going to enjoy it....at least for now!
 
Sooper disappointed about the RAM.

It's bumming hard, guys. Bumming hard. :(

I went and ordered one nevertheless, here's to hoping that it won't be a mess.
 
Only a few more hours for those in the US!!

I will pull an Adrian Peterson or Ray Rice on anyone that tries to cut in front of me at the Apple Store.

BEWARE.

It's been calm here in charleston. Wait... I think there's a line cutter trying to look casual about it. A small break in the line, and she's standing there, inching her way in, like she belongs here.
 
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