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iPhone 6 Plus Teardown: Twice as Big a Battery as iPhone 5s [Update: 1 GB RAM Confirmed]

AppleFan115 said:
Only a few more hours for those in the US!!

I will pull an Adrian Peterson or Ray Rice on anyone that tries to cut in front of me at the Apple Store.

BEWARE.
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There any documented cases of people arrested while in line for an Apple phone?

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blackhand1001 said:
I can tell you right now that even the fastest arm processors are still miles behind intel cpus from 2009 other than the intel atom.
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Considers your application and what is running. With Intel shipping on Macs now, I'm sure there have done the tour in the loop to get ARM out and Atom in the iPhone. Issue is millions of apps that would need to run in emulation for that to happen. I would not be surprised if there is an Atom / iOS prototype on a Bomb Shelter bench for evaluation but that will not see light of day if ever.

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TheWatchfulOne said:
Apple makes it their priority to make products that delight customers. Making major profits is a byproduct of making products that delight customers.
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And that is the art of the deal. Seen way too many start-ups with happy customers while going under. You need to find a happy customer base that makes you solvent
 
Medic311 said:
1) instead of focusing on the root causes for inferior performance (either short term or long term) that stems from 1GB of memory , you are blaming the end user and what he/she is using a phone that is capable of even much more. using 1GB of memory is actually a travesty even on the A6, let alone also the more powerful A7 and the brand new A8. it's a waste of what these great chips and these great smartphones could truly do

2) did you fail to read what i have said over and over again, that the use of 1GB of memory was solely due to maximizing profits and nothing else. i called out people who blindly defend Apple's decision and cite profits as the real reason

3) i did not purchase the iPhone 6 or 6 Plus. i am using an iPhone 5. not that it matters, in fact it's irrelevant in this discussion
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You're continually asserting that Apple is making RAM decisions based solely on profit concerns does not make it true.

RAM is redicoulusly cheap. The cost of increasing it to 2GB would be minimal and would have a tiny impact on profit. If increasing the RAM would be add such an incredible increase to performance, why wouldn't they do it? They spend far more on other system components where they could gimp them to try and squeeze more profit out of it at the sacrifice of performance.

Why don't they increase the RAM. Simple, it doesn't need it, period.
 
Michaelgtrusa said:
Better too tear it down than too drop and break it.
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Absolutely. I love this teardown. It shows how well engineered the product is

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ZacNicholson said:
bigger is better according to my ex....
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She's your ex, so it drives me to a conclusion...:D

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Raffi said:
The damn internals are even beautiful. WTF is wrong with me?
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They really are

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arn said:
If anyone was holding out hope, it's 1GB:
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This is the only thing I can't understand...
 
linuxcooldude said:
I think some people obsess too much about specs. Hardware is only one half of the equation. A well coded operating system is the other. While other phones were still laggy, the iPhone was still faster with only 256-512MB of RAM. I've seen more efficient software reduce processor load in half. Even when the iPhone eventually gets 2GB RAM people will then move on to complain about some other hardware they perceive is not enough.
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And what about people who obsess over protruding camera rings and wide antenna lines? Those conversations are more productive?

My issue with Apple not upping the RAM is that we all (well some of us anyway) know software follows hardware. Nobody will write software that takes advantage of the extra RAM if it's not already present. And I'm not talking about the proverbial 'lazy programmers' usually mentioned in these discussions. I'm talking about more innovative, richer software.

If companies in the past had gone the Apple route of 'it's good enough' we would all still be running DOS with 4k RAM and using a 9600 baud dial-up. (And no, those were not 'the good old days'). Personally I think it stifles software innovation.

Anyway, and I'm sure both of these phones will function just fine for a year, probably two before they begin to show their age. It's a shame though, we have become such a throw-away society.
 
phpmaven said:
You're continually asserting that Apple is making RAM decisions based solely on profit concerns does not make it true.

RAM is redicoulusly cheap. The cost of increasing it to 2GB would be minimal and would have a tiny impact on profit. If increasing the RAM would be add such an incredible increase to performance, why wouldn't they do it? They spend far more on other system components where they could gimp them to try and squeeze more profit out of it at the sacrifice of performance.

Why don't they increase the RAM. Simple, it doesn't need it, period.
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RAM might be cheap but when you have to put another GB into millions and millions of phones it starts to add up. Plus, this is the day and age of stroking the shareholder weenie and that's the ONLY thing that matters anymore. So, yeah, it's the cost savings. That's why they did it.
 
phpmaven said:
Why don't they increase the RAM. Simple, it doesn't need it, period.
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I m a surgeon and I do not need all that power from my phone...
Also using MBP and iPad Air.

but many friends of mine where asking of a big screen iphone.
DONE! 6plus.

but...unfornutaley they must open .xls files on their new big iPhone.
guess what...

If you open the .xls using 20 more apps takes way more time than if you were using only the reader app.
Thats iOS needing more RAM

I m not telling you that matters to me,but not everyone makes the same usage...;)

Thats why he is buying e NOTE4 after the confirmed 1gb of ram.

iPhone6plus with 1GB of ram is ok for me or others who are making elementary usage,whatsapp,iMessage,gaming,or else but not for serious work.
 
Medic311 said:
5 tabs is nothing. Try 10 and have other apps open in the background. Then see how 1GB holds up. If the next question is "why would you have all of that going at the same time?" , my question right back would be it's a premium smartphone that is advertised as being "the best" by Tim Cook and it should be able to do that in 2014.

Also, 1GB becomes less and less effective at handling operations as time goes on. Thus making the lifespan of this phone less than it should be

There is no legitimate argument against having 2GB of memory in iPhones and iPads these days. Battery life impact is negligible and it is strictly and solely a cost savings and thus profit increasing move to still use 1GB. Same goes for still keeping the 16GB iPhone but then jumping up to a 64 and then saying its a "deal" for consumers bc it's the same price as what the 32GB used to be. Right....
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I completely agree with everything you're saying. However, would you care to elaborate the part where you mention that 1GB becomes less and less effective? Are you referring to the fact that applications become more sophisticated, thereby needing more RAM, or saying that there's a "wear down" on RAM as a component?
 
s2mikey said:
RAM might be cheap but when you have to put another GB into millions and millions of phones it starts to add up. Plus, this is the day and age of stroking the shareholder weenie and that's the ONLY thing that matters anymore. So, yeah, it's the cost savings. That's why they did it.
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Nonsense.
 
Given how often apps crash to background on my 5S with 1GB of RAM, I've downgraded my order from a 6+ to 6 and from 64 to 16GB. No need to reward Apple with those fat margins with this skimping on memory.
 
phpmaven said:
Nonsense.
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What is? Certainly not the savings aspect. In large scale manufacturing, if you can save a fraction of a penny with some hardware decision that does not affect the outcome too negatively, you jump on it. And collect a massive bonus for saving the company a huge stack of monies, at least in a perfect world.

Now, if you can save billions (well, hundreds of millions for sure) by offering less RAM (which nobody but the uber-geeks will ever know, since you don't give out these numbers), you'd be the dumbest person to ever have walked the face of this planet if you aren't all over it.
 
I would rather they had a smaller battery and much smaller top and bottom bezels, at least 2GB ram and 32GB of storage. I went into buy it this morning but it's too ugly for me.

I've got quite a few Apple products but I'll pass on this one till they get their act together. For now I'll stick with my old HTC One X and look at Samsung or LG or maybe even another HTC. I thought the Plus was going to be my next Apple product but it looks like I might have to wait a couple of years.
 
iphone5att64 said:
If this has 1GB of RAM, it's going to be bricked like iPhone 3G, iPhone 4 with 3GS specs and 4x pixels can't run iOS7, like iPhone 4S can't handle iOS8, like iPad 1's 256MB of RAM, like iPad 3 with 4x pixels on iPad 2 specs. iPhone 5 will run iOS11 fine with 1GB and iPhone 6 Plus will lag with less available memory.
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Just to inform you the iPad 3 does NOT have iPad 2 specs. It has Double the RAM and the same quad core graphics chip as the PSVita does, it ran absolutely 100% fine under iOS6.
 
I just knew the plus, the greater of a luxury line of phone would have 2 gigs. Darn you apple. :confused: I tried android yesterday at tmobile, I can't do it, I'm stuck with another single ram.
 
iphone5att64 said:
If this has 1GB of RAM, it's going to be bricked like iPhone 3G, iPhone 4 with 3GS specs and 4x pixels can't run iOS7, like iPhone 4S can't handle iOS8, like iPad 1's 256MB of RAM, like iPad 3 with 4x pixels on iPad 2 specs. iPhone 5 will run iOS11 fine with 1GB and iPhone 6 Plus will lag with less available memory.
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I wouldn't say iPhone 4 was bricked with iOS 7... hell, I even got several friends who are still happily using iP4 with iOS 7 and they can live with it. So you're saying that if a phone can't perfectly (just tolerably) run the 3rd major OS update after its debut (that means that it's the 4th version of the same OS running on that particular phone), it's a shame?
 
0092762 said:
Given how often apps crash to background on my 5S with 1GB of RAM, I've downgraded my order from a 6+ to 6 and from 64 to 16GB. No need to reward Apple with those fat margins with this skimping on memory.
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I did the same. Maybe next year for the 6+.

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RockSpider said:
I would rather they had a smaller battery and much smaller top and bottom bezels, at least 2GB ram and 32GB of storage. I went into buy it this morning but it's too ugly for me.
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This would have made a lot of sense
 
0092762 said:
Given how often apps crash to background on my 5S with 1GB of RAM, I've downgraded my order from a 6+ to 6 and from 64 to 16GB. No need to reward Apple with those fat margins with this skimping on memory.
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I missed your point here .... why you move to ip6 at all but not stay with ip5S since both - 6 and 6+ have the same 1GB ram and you expect to face issues with that? It was better simply to pass this year and to wait 2015's ip6S ....
 
LG G3 and Galaxy Note 3 and 4 all have 3Gb of ram. Just saying. Next year it will be 4Gb ram.
 
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