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Those aren't large numbers, percentage wise. Considering China has about 4⅓ times the population the U.S. does, the 20 million presales represents only 1 out of 70 people in China (vs 1 out of 16 in the U.S.). The disparity of any country's income would allow for such a small upper class.

As of 2012, China's "upper middle-class households, with incomes of $16,000 to $34,000, represent only 14 percent", of households.*

Even excluding upper-class & middle-class households, only 1 in 10 upper middle-class would need to buy an iPhone to reach this number.


*That 14% upper middle-class is going to grow to 54% in 8 years.
http://thediplomat.com/2013/05/half-a-billion-chinas-middle-class-consumers/

number isn't large?
oh. did anyone mention to you that China isnt a capitalistic country?
 
So it appears that the total sell through of iPhone 6/6+ for the remainder of 2014 will be limited only by Apple's ability to supply more phones. Many in the US are even still waiting for devices ordered not long after the release date.
 
Wow. So as of a week ago there were about 20 million sold. Now there are at least another 20 million pre orders in china. Factor in the rest of the world and Apple has easily topped 50 million, maybe even 60 million. They'll have no problem beating their goal of selling 70 million this quarter. I have to wonder if they'll break 100 million.
 
I´m surprised that MacRumors does not mention how this system works. Not even a single comment about it.. These are not "sold" or "pre-orders", they are simply reservations. Just a name and a number is all that is needed. I know several people who have 6-9 reservation each one for each size/color just to be sure to get something quickly. Expected more from MacRumors and commenters on this one. I´m still getting the 6P though!

That's true... a person reserving six iPhones will only be buying one.

But rest assured... every iPhone that hits the market in China will be sold.

If a Chinese store has any "extra" iPhones from cancelled reservations... they'll be gone in a matter of hours.

Or minutes! :D
 
I´m surprised that MacRumors does not mention how this system works. Not even a single comment about it.. These are not "sold" or "pre-orders", they are simply reservations. Just a name and a number is all that is needed. I know several people who have 6-9 reservation each one for each size/color just to be sure to get something quickly. Expected more from MacRumors and commenters on this one. I´m still getting the 6P though!

These are real preorders. They started take these four days go. You are talking about old news.
 
These are real preorders. They started take these four days go. You are talking about old news.

The data comes from the JD site. You can even track the number online, and all is needed to reserve a phone is a name and a phone number. As I said I know several people with 5-9 reservations each in various colors/sizes on JD just to be able to get a phone quickly.

Macrumors should write this in their article, as it reads almost as a US pre-order which is as good as a sold phone.

I have no doubt Apple will sell every single iPhone 6/P they can produce though, it´s selling like crazy. But these numbers are for reservations of pre-orders, not actual pre-orders.
 
Let me give it a try: ”with a country of 1 billion pple, 20 million is not a lot. Apple is doom.”

How about that spin? :)

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I eas in the same boat as you. Cant decide if i wanted a 6 or 6+. Then i got a 6, it’s good and everything but I kept tinking about the plus. I walked in to the store one day and got one. Now im totally happy with it. The screen is brilliant, the battery life is fantastic, the camera is so so good. In term of speed, both phone are equally fast.

I am already veering towards 6+ reading your comments.... I felt the same as you did... I loved 6, but couldn't stop thinking about the 6+. I kept going back to 6+ to play with it a bit more and was trying to convince myself it is too big and I wouldn't like it... The sales guy was getting a tad annoyed with me, because I wouldn't let anyone else play with the only 6+ model on display....:D

I am positively leaning towards 6+ now... Thanks for sharing your experience....
 
They are probably busy making an 'ad' or a youtube video, mocking Apple for selling 'bendy' phones and cheating chinese customers.....

Actually a lot are having actual fun with there new note 4 phones.......I receive mine tomorrow ....glad I'm spared from boring Apple :p
 
Actually a lot are having actual fun with there new note 4 phones.......I receive mine tomorrow ....glad I'm spared from boring Apple :p

Then why are you here?

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The data comes from the JD site. You can even track the number online, and all is needed to reserve a phone is a name and a phone number. As I said I know several people with 5-9 reservations each in various colors/sizes on JD just to be able to get a phone quickly.

Macrumors should write this in their article, as it reads almost as a US pre-order which is as good as a sold phone.

I have no doubt Apple will sell every single iPhone 6/P they can produce though, it´s selling like crazy. But these numbers are for reservations of pre-orders, not actual pre-orders.

Funny though, don't remember hearing of these types of numbers for
the android fones.
 
Apple makes about 400K ipeons/day (not sure the ratio). 20M/400K = 50 days to meet demand just in China. I can bet these numbers would be double by the end of next month. so no iPhones for China until Q2 2015.
US supply won't get damaged by China since Apple gives priority to the US AND they have fixed numbers per country based on different parameters (basically demand vs population and potential selling point).

Anyway, what's up Samsung? :p
 
Apple makes about 400K ipeons/day (not sure the ratio). 20M/400K = 50 days to meet demand just in China. I can bet these numbers would be double by the end of next month. so no iPhones for China until Q2 2015.
US supply won't get damaged by China since Apple gives priority to the US AND they have fixed numbers per country based on different parameters (basically demand vs population and potential selling point).

Anyway, what's up Samsung? :p

Numbers I saw showed that (initially at least) Foxconn was able to produce 400,000 iPhone 6 and 140,000 iPhone 6Plus a day. Also some iPhone 6's are being made by another manufacturer (probably Pegatron). So we're probably talking more than 600,000 a day.
 
Numbers I saw showed that (initially at least) Foxconn was able to produce 400,000 iPhone 6 and 140,000 iPhone 6Plus a day. Also some iPhone 6's are being made by another manufacturer (probably Pegatron). So we're probably talking more than 600,000 a day.

With the 24 countries launch this month, demand wouldn't be met until Q2 2015 - at least - and Q1 more = new iPhone. Pretty sad. I hope 6S would be skipped.
 
Numbers I saw showed that (initially at least) Foxconn was able to produce 400,000 iPhone 6 and 140,000 iPhone 6Plus a day. Also some iPhone 6's are being made by another manufacturer (probably Pegatron). So we're probably talking more than 600,000 a day.

600,000 iPhones per day

That's 25,000 iPhones per hour... or about 417 iPhones per minute... or almost 7 iPhones PER SECOND

And even at that rate.... it will still be MONTHS before they catch up to demand.

Insanity!
 
I am positively leaning towards 6+ now... Thanks for sharing your experience....

I went for the 6+ (should arrive next week :D ) because the screen size on the 6 actually is not much bigger than the 5 and given I wanted a bigger screen the 6 really doesn't add much. Also the 6+ has better battery life whereas the 6 is similar battery life to the 5. OIS is icing on the cake.

Add to that the + is not much more expensive and given the high cost figure in any case, figured I might as well get the most bang for my bucks (or Pounds in my case)

Having played with a 6 I'm glad I made that decision, due to the thinness I think it really doesn't seem much larger to hold than a 5, so I suspect after a few days of using the 6+ it won't seem too huge. it's not actually much bigger than most 5 inch androids in overall dimensions, none of their owners agonises over the size.
 
By the end of the year and when I will get mine for the holidays, I wonder what the numbers will be like ? Anybody care to take a guess? And let say world wide numbers( does anybody know how many phones Foxcom can make in a week or month?)
 
They are probably busy making an 'ad' or a youtube video, mocking Apple for selling 'bendy' phones and cheating chinese customers.....

Don't forget that if you smash an iPhone with a sledgehammer or stick it a blender, it will probably fail to live up to the hype. How big are these people who keep forgetting they have giant phones in their pockets, then manage to crush them? Talk about dumba**. Or is that numb?
Has anyone noticed that if you drive your car into a tree or post it also tends to bend. Are they made by Apple as well?
 
Don't forget that if you smash an iPhone with a sledgehammer or stick it a blender, it will probably fail to live up to the hype. How big are these people who keep forgetting they have giant phones in their pockets, then manage to crush them? Talk about dumba**. Or is that numb?
Has anyone noticed that if you drive your car into a tree or post it also tends to bend. Are they made by Apple as well?

I guess these people have pretty big ass for a 6+ to get lost in all that fat...ewwww what a horrible thought....
 
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