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The storage increase would make sense to further differentiate the 5C(S) entry level iphone from the premium model. It would also be a way to make the rumored 100$ price increase hurt a little less. Especially since storage chips a dirt-cheap nowadays.

So we can probably expect:

- an iphone 5C with 5S internals (Named maybe 5CS) starting with 16 GB of storage for 549,-
- an iphone 6 4.7 with 32GB for 749,-
- an iphone 6 5.5 with 32GB for 849,-

doubling the storage for an additional 100,-

I just hope they improve battery life and (coming from an early iphone 5) there are no violet halos when taking pictures - my iphone really is the most useless camera phone I ever had.
 
FINALLY! :D

16GB is just a joke these days. 32GB should be the minimum.

I'll be getting an iPhone 6 5.5" 32GB if:

1. both 4.7/5.5 models are the same price
2. a 32gb iphone 6 is = to a 16gb 5S price at £549.

iphone 6 5.5" 32gb at £549 and i'm in!!

With you all the way, but I'd be shocked if prices were that reasonable (and I use the term loosely) to be honest. I'd like to think the 5.5 will be priced where the 5s was and the 4.7 will be £80 cheaper, but I fear the 4.7 will be the 5s price and the 5.5 will be +£80. It's Apple, and we're in the UK. Stuffed whichever way.

I didn't get a 5s because the price was £50 up on the 5. Now, some of that may have been exchange rate adjustment and we're currently doing well against the $ so we might get lucky.

However, as attached as I am to being alive, I won't be holding my breath :(

Prices can't keep going up. Wages aren't.
 
Of course they grew. The entire market is still growing. If Apple were to post declining sales in a growing market that would mean that they would be in a monumental crisis and quite possibly - yes - doomed.

Yes, and that destroys your entire point about Apple being "late" to the larger screen party. There is no iPhone crisis. The larger screen is therefore just normal model evolution to capture new sales, not an effort of running to recapture former customers.
 
I registered just to ask this:

Why do you need a mobile phone with 128GB of space? I got 16GB and im not getting over 12GB in total.
2-3GB Spotify, then tons of photos, and games.



we always get one of these.

Does spottily have rare, unreleased tracks? my entire library alone can be 40 GB

put in games, documents, photos, videos, movies still isn't enough.

am i going to watch all these in one day? no. Is it convenient to have them? yes.

Im traveling overseas, if i have 16 GB phone and i want to have some movies or videos, music, or games.

hell have 2-4 high end games on the phone and that 16gb is already filled.

i have nothing to do on the plane, and when I'm overseas i have nothing to watch and streaming overseas is never good.


so you tell me, why the hell do you want a 16GB phone in this day and age? if you have to travel you dont have the convenience to just put back movies that you already watch and upload new ones, etc etc. because IM NOT AT HOME.


how do you expect your little closed mind that 16GB fits for all? Why in the world would apple have an incentive to even sell 32GB, 64GB, and even 128 GB iPads?


you do know mobile devices are being used for businesses right? some need to store tons and tons of data on their phone.

One store or business wants their whole inventory with high quality images stored on the iPhone or iPad? 16 GB is far from enough.


Do you even think before you post? I assume you're not tech savvy at all, if you were you know the uses of more storage space.

Why even have 1-3TB on your laptop or desktop? why? because everything takes up space. i have 1.5 TB on my desktop and its already getting filled up and i manage my files pretty good. i delete unnecessary ****. I'm planning to get another 512SSD and 2-3 TB HDD

Why do you want a big house rather than a 1 room studio? is that one room studio able to fit a pool table? desktop, dining table, ping pong table, coach, TV with a home entertainment set, bed, Book shelf, drawer.

some people man, just some people. arrogant fools.
 
The funny thing is that in trying to troll, you've actually hit the nail on the head - if I'm flying longhaul and I suddenly do get an urge to listen to an obscure song I've got in my collection, which is the better option - to be able to satisfy that desire there and then, or to have to wait until another time when the moment will have passed? It may be a "first-world problem", but it's a valid reason... convenience! Why have a smartphone at all, surely just about everything else can wait till you get home?

As a tech product manager, one of the things I do on occasion is write up detailed use cases. I'm not surprised there actually is a person who matched this story. Thanks for connecting! :)
 
Yes, and that destroys your entire point about Apple being "late" to the larger screen party.

Being that they are the only manufacturer without one, I guess we both agree that Apple wasn't "early" to that party? And now, being three years behind its main competitor, we can hardly call that being "on time", either.

Now, I don't know about you, but short of "late", no other temporal adjective really springs to my mind that would accurately describe the situation where one is three to four generations behind.

EDIT: Maybe you are getting confused with "late" and "too late"?
 
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Especially since AT&T and Verizon quietely moved a lot of people off subsidized pricing when they lowered the price on family plans. Rather than paying $199 or $299 - a lot of families are going to realize they are on a program like Next which will require them to pay an extra $35-$50 a month for each iPhone 6. It probably won't be a big deal for people who have a single upgrade. But for families who upgrade multiple devices at the same time, it'll add up quickly.

They'll quickly forget about the money they've saved when they converted the new family plan pricing that treated all phones (no matter how new) as 'off contract' and be on here complaining that they are 'getting screwed.'

In reality they are just paying for the phone the same way as the rest of the world. Heck, at AT&T makes it a big easier by not requiring money down and spreading out the payments.....but it's still gonna be a shock for a lot of people.

I don't think it'll impact the early adopters and those who 'gotta have' the new phone. But I can see a lot of people holding off upgrades for the whole family or for users who still like their current devices.

EXACTLY.

My fiancé and I don't have At&t, but her family does. With 4 lines I had to really crunch some numbers and start a spreadsheet to see what was going on. For people that are on these old Nationwide Family plans, Next initially looks great if you are bringing your own device, but once you start adding new phones open up your wallet. Needless to say, they are still on a subsidized plan.
 
Most iPhones have less than 32GB because people don't want to pay an extra $100. I know quite a few "normal" users who have hit the limit because of one reason - the camera. On the 5S now people taking slow motion video, 1080P video and 8MP photos the camera roll fills up space quickly. I am a "light" camera user yet I still have 8GB of photos/videos just because I don't spend time organizing older photos on my phone.

Also iMessage - if you don't delete your old messages then those photos and videos sent will continue to rack up space. That is why iOS 8 now has video/audio messages that expire after a certain amount of time.

That plus music and 16GB goes away quickly, even for a "typical" user.

Agreed on 16 gb. But not on 32 GB. If you think you never have to take picture or movie off your phone, then you are confused about reality. Just delete that stuff after you've transferred it. Or delete some old iMessage threads. But yes nice that Apple is doing it for those users now.
 
Being someone who's always gotten the base model iPhone, i.e the 16GB 3GS, 16GB 4S and lately the 16GB 5S, 32GB base storage would be a very, very welcomed upgrade, given that it would be priced at the 16GB price-point!

I've always gotten by with 16GB, but lately I find myself having to delete apps nearly everyday to be able to take new photos. Hence I was set on getting a 32GB 4.7" iPhone. Now it seems I may be getting cheaper off than I had previously imagined. Sweet!
 
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we always get one of these.

Does spottily have rare, unreleased tracks? my entire library alone can be 40 GB

put in games, documents, photos, videos, movies still isn't enough.

am i going to watch all these in one day? no. Is it convenient to have them? yes.

Im traveling overseas, if i have 16 GB phone and i want to have some movies or videos, music, or games.

hell have 2-4 high end games on the phone and that 16gb is already filled.

i have nothing to do on the plane, and when I'm overseas i have nothing to watch and streaming overseas is never good.


so you tell me, why the hell do you want a 16GB phone in this day and age? if you have to travel you dont have the convenience to just put back movies that you already watch and upload new ones, etc etc. because IM NOT AT HOME.


how do you expect your little closed mind that 16GB fits for all? Why in the world would apple have an incentive to even sell 32GB, 64GB, and even 128 GB iPads?


you do know mobile devices are being used for businesses right? some need to store tons and tons of data on their phone.

One store or business wants their whole inventory with high quality images stored on the iPhone or iPad? 16 GB is far from enough.


Do you even think before you post? I assume you're not tech savvy at all, if you were you know the uses of more storage space.

Why even have 1-3TB on your laptop or desktop? why? because everything takes up space. i have 1.5 TB on my desktop and its already getting filled up and i manage my files pretty good. i delete unnecessary ****. I'm planning to get another 512SSD and 2-3 TB HDD

Why do you want a big house rather than a 1 room studio? is that one room studio able to fit a pool table? desktop, dining table, ping pong table, coach, TV with a home entertainment set, bed, Book shelf, drawer.

some people man, just some people. arrogant fools.
:rolleyes:

You do see the irony there right?

Everyone's use case is different and he asked a valid question. No need to rip into to him like you're talking to a child or a fool. Don't you think before you post? What would ever make that new member want to come back? So much for the Apple "community".

I don't think he was saying 16GB is enough for everyone, or "fit for all" as you put it, just that he couldn't see how anyone could need 128GB based on his usage. Maybe he doesn't listen to lots of rare tracks. Maybe he doesn't use bloated oversized apps. Why not just explain why someone might want a larger device instead of going off on one like a, well, looney. Fitting username if ever I saw one. And yes, I'm aware I'm guilty of doing the same as you did by talking down but I'm just wondering if you like being spoken to in that tone or it's something you like to do with the anonymity of the internet but don't like getting back.

In all your case scenarios an iPhone is probably not the phone for that person then. And if that person prefers an iPhone over the competition then there are, and always have been, sacrifices to be made. Storage space is one of them. There currently isn't a 128GB iPhone and we only got an increase to 64 GB with the 4S. So, what have you been doing with your mountain of rare tracks up to now? Maybe you are more the rare case and being able to manage with 16-32GB is more the norm?

Maybe someone wants a 1 room studio because it's what they can afford, or - God forbid - they don't have a pool table, desktop, dining table, ping pong table, coach (I assume you meant couch), or a bookshelf.

I wouldn't mind seeing a 128GB iPhone as it happens but, 1) it'd probably cost as much as a decent MacBook Air and 2) it would probably have to be a few mm thicker and Jony Ive would have a fit and start babbling about "thinness" and "beautiful lines" being spoiled as they carted him off to the madhouse.
 
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Being that they are the only manufacturer without one, I guess we both agree that Apple wasn't "early" to that party? And now, being three years behind its main competitor, we can hardly call that being "on time", either.

Now, I don't know about you, but short of "late", no other temporal adjective really springs to my mind that would accurately describe the situation where one is three to four generations behind.

EDIT: Maybe you are getting confused with "late" and "too late"?

No, I'm not confused by the meaning of late and too late. I'm well verse in layman and business nomenclature. Apple was not first, but it's rarely first with anything. It just has the image that it is because the first iteration of anything usually isn't all that good because it hasn't been "road tested."

But just because it wasn't first, doesn't mean it was late to market. Apple historically add features on own it's on schedule, as needed, rather than just because the other guy is doing it. There are plenty of "features" on current Android devices that Apple has not, likely never will, adopt. But when incorporating a feature makes sense to help the line grow they go for it. Yes, sometimes, this is a couple cycles after another company introduced it to the market.

So, to be sure, Apple is later than Android, but not because it didn't recognize demand, but rather they deemed it premature. Actual sales data confirms Apple's research was correct on that and also that pushing out bigger screens now is right on time for the device's continued success.
 
You say you're not confused, but then you say this...

So, to be sure, Apple is later than Android

One is a tech device manufacturer, the other is the name of an operating system designed by a well known search engine company.

but not because it didn't recognize demand, but rather they deemed it premature. Actual sales data confirms Apple's research was correct on that and also that pushing out bigger screens now is right on time for the device's continued success.

I agree with you there.

I seem to recall an interview with Tim Cook (All Things D?) where he said that Apple would make a larger screened iPhone, but only when they could do it "properly" (thus implying that the larger screened Samsung phones were not of great quality, simply larger).

Or did I imagine that?
 
You say you're not confused, but then you say this...



One is a tech device manufacturer, the other is the name of an operating system designed by a well known search engine company.

I understand that (Duh!) and I was not being literal to Google or the OS but to lump together all Android phabelts. Obviously I am talking about hardware when the discussion is screen sizes. More than one manufacturer makes phablet sized Android phones so it's easier to talk about Android generically than run down the litany of phone make and model.
 
Classic

Do you all realize that it costs PENNIES to increase the capacity of these phones. It was BRILLIANT by apple all these years to keep their phones at 16gb... PricePoint wise,, They made the MOST money from anyone purchasing 32gb and higher as it cost them nothing to increase.

They want an extra 100 dollars out of you fools. Hmmmmm I know,,, lets START them with 32Gb,,, that way it's JUSTIFIED. YIKES...

The price will be Crazy High,, and they will counter with,, well,,, we had to increase,....
 
Do you all realize that it costs PENNIES to increase the capacity of these phones. It was BRILLIANT by apple all these years to keep their phones at 16gb... PricePoint wise,, They made the MOST money from anyone purchasing 32gb and higher as it cost them nothing to increase.

They want an extra 100 dollars out of you fools. Hmmmmm I know,,, lets START them with 32Gb,,, that way it's JUSTIFIED. YIKES...

The price will be Crazy High,, and they will counter with,, well,,, we had to increase,....

I'm not sure what your point is. If it's to let everyone know that Apple charges more for increased storage than it actually costs, well, I'm quite certain we all know that. Beyond that, what exactly are you trying to say? If 16GB isn't enough for someone, then it's not enough and they have to get the higher up model. Unless you're going to let us in on your secret of how we can buy a 16GB phone and magically get 32GB of internal storage, then your entire post is pretty dumb.
 
HD video
movies
lossless audio
tons of apps

Why aren't you using your phone to its potential?
Because it's a bloody iPhone? I'm not running Clash of Clans and a hundred of its closest competitors on my phone, and I feel very sorry for anyone who has to have 300 apps just for the sake of having them...

The difference in audio is very minimal unless you have very sophisticated (and expensive) equipment to hear it. Not to mention, you lose a little bit more of your hearing every day, so why not just save the money have the same experience no matter what?

Believe it or not, movies are not produced for the small screen, but instead are made for a big one. Hollywood still has an old mentality that films are to be projected and not squeezed out of their aspect ratios onto a four or five inch screen. The only thing that MIGHT come close is your home television.

Sorry, but I'm a little old fashioned when I think a phone's potential should be that of..... well a phone.
 
:rolleyes:

You do see the irony there right?

Everyone's use case is different and he asked a valid question. No need to rip into to him like you're talking to a child or a fool. Don't you think before you post? What would ever make that new member want to come back? So much for the Apple "community".

I don't think he was saying 16GB is enough for everyone, or "fit for all" as you put it, just that he couldn't see how anyone could need 128GB based on his usage. Maybe he doesn't listen to lots of rare tracks. Maybe he doesn't use bloated oversized apps. Why not just explain why someone might want a larger device instead of going off on one like a, well, looney. Fitting username if ever I saw one. And yes, I'm aware I'm guilty of doing the same as you did by talking down but I'm just wondering if you like being spoken to in that tone or it's something you like to do with the anonymity of the internet but don't like getting back.

In all your case scenarios an iPhone is probably not the phone for that person then. And if that person prefers an iPhone over the competition then there are, and always have been, sacrifices to be made. Storage space is one of them. There currently isn't a 128GB iPhone and we only got an increase to 64 GB with the 4S. So, what have you been doing with your mountain of rare tracks up to now? Maybe you are more the rare case and being able to manage with 16-32GB is more the norm?

Maybe someone wants a 1 room studio because it's what they can afford, or - God forbid - they don't have a pool table, desktop, dining table, ping pong table, coach (I assume you meant couch), or a bookshelf.

I wouldn't mind seeing a 128GB iPhone as it happens but, 1) it'd probably cost as much as a decent MacBook Air and 2) it would probably have to be a few mm thicker and Jony Ive would have a fit and start babbling about "thinness" and "beautiful lines" being spoiled as they carted him off to the madhouse.


Do you understand what analogies are? It's not the case of what they can afford, its what they want.

Do you want a crappy one bedroom studio compared to a nice house? do you want a cheap 89 honda accord compared to any modern car model?


i know there isn't a 128GB phone model. I'm a developer i would know, the whole case was why would anyone not want it?


at this day an age how can you assume nobody needs more than 16GB, are you serious?


im not even talking about "oversized apps" you download bunch of apps you can use for just streaming, work (editing files, accounting, etc etc), and your personal pictures and videos. those alone would be enough just fill your 16GB phone.


first of all i just dont like people that come off like that, people should think with a broader mind.

rather than, "this fits me, nobody else needs it". the fact that he can fathom that to me is ridiculous.


what have i said that was arrogant? everything I've said is with a broad mind.

i never said nobody has a use for 16GB because its so small. i was just appalled by the fact that he thinks that nobody needs more than 16GB.
 
Yeah, people keep saying 16GB is the most popular so it must be the size everyone wants. That's an asinine argument. It's the most popular be it's a $100 cheaper than the next size. That's a huge hit on the wallet for 50% of american households that make less than 40k a year. And I agree, apps are really getting storage hungry, and 1080p videos are super storage hungry.
Also, iCloud costs money if you want more than 5GB of storage.

^^ this 100%
 
FINALLY! :D

I'll be getting an iPhone 6 5.5" 32GB if:

1. both 4.7/5.5 models are the same price
2. a 32gb iphone 6 is = to a 16gb 5S price at £549.

In your dreams...

It would be weird beyond belief to get more phone and more features for the same price.

I cannot imagine this happening. I bet at least a $100 differential and probably more.
 
To assure maximum impact on launch Apple needs to introduce both sizes. They also should be sure the 5.5" includes exclusive features to insure it's flagship status.

Done right this has the potential to be a milestone for Apple as they use borrowed (copied) Android features to catch up and make the iPhone relevant.

We'll see if Apple can pull this off.
 
While 32GB base model would certainly be a welcome change, I do very much hope that this doesn't come with a base price increase.

I will be getting a 64GB+ myself, but the other two members of my family (who I am sure will want this phone too lol) do fine even today with a 16GB.
 
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