iPhone 6 Said to Launch on Friday, September 19 in 32 GB and 64 GB Variants

[wizard]

If they offer a 16gb model I'd prefer that. My current 4S has 7gb free...

What do you guys keep on your phone? I'll admit I don't take a lot of photos or videos and only have 2 screens worth of apps. iTunes Match keeps most of my music in the cloud, data plans are cheap so I stream everything.

If you believe storage plans are cheap these days you have a very very strange sense of economics. Streaming is very expensive even compared to Apples pricing on flash storage. In fact I sometimes wonder if iCloud was an AT&T invention.

If you have iTunes Match and with photos going to iCloud in iOS8 won't that free up the majority of your internal storage?

You do realize that it would be possible for just 6 videos to blow your data plan for a month? Sure you can upgrade or just purchase more bandwidth but that will become very expensive real quick.

Those who want 128gb what do you store on your phone that you need that much space? I'm a few generations behind (4S) is there an easy way to use newer iPhones as a thumb drive (portable storage)?

Obviously if you have to ask you don't have a clue nor respect that people have needs different from you.

 

[jclardy]

"Most users"?!?! Really, you believe that more than 51% of iPhone users can "barely" get squeeze into 32 GB.

First of all, most iPhones in use today have less than 32GB. The low capacity iPhone has always been the hottest seller. Second of all, most users have no idea their iPhone has a storage limit or they do almost nothing to stay within it. You have to really load up on games and media to use more than 32 GB. Few productivity apps require high storage amounts. If you are pushing that limit you are either carrying around a bunch of movies, days worth of music or you have games on your phone you probably haven't opened for a month.

Most iPhones have less than 32GB because people don't want to pay an extra $100. I know quite a few "normal" users who have hit the limit because of one reason - the camera. On the 5S now people taking slow motion video, 1080P video and 8MP photos the camera roll fills up space quickly. I am a "light" camera user yet I still have 8GB of photos/videos just because I don't spend time organizing older photos on my phone.

Also iMessage - if you don't delete your old messages then those photos and videos sent will continue to rack up space. That is why iOS 8 now has video/audio messages that expire after a certain amount of time.

That plus music and 16GB goes away quickly, even for a "typical" user.

 

[noobinator]

Not everyone has unlimited data to just stream music at will. I am still on a 2Gb/month data plan and would burn that up just streaming music.

So switch to a better plan? You do realize many plans offer much more than 2gb data for probably less than what you are paying.

 

[Dr McKay]

Wow some of the replies in this thread.

"Well I only need a 16GB phone, I have constant 4G and unlimited data so I store everything in the cloud, why can't you?"

Not everyone is you. Most of the mobile internet where I live is 1G, it would take a minute to load a single photo, half the time it would give up. It would take probably 10 minutes to buffer a single song. I do not have unlimited data.

 

[dumastudetto]

wants and needs are subjective. your statement of apple would offer a 128gb only if there was a need for it makes no sense. nobody really "needs" a smartphone as we could continue to live with a dumb phone, yet apple makes a smartphone.

Trying to compare the need for a product with the need for a component inside of said product is absurd.

The majority of people can still comfortably live with a 16GB device. That's why the majority of handsets sold (both iPhone and Android) are shipped with 16GB storage capacity. 128GB clearly isn't needed for the useful function of a smartphone in today's world.

64GB iPhone is like the 17" MacBook Pro being sold to a tiny proportion of customers. I would suggest 64GB is more likely to go away than Apple introducing 128GB models anytime soon.

 

[wizard]

Those of you begging for 128GB...why? You are going to run into the same issue. My iPhoto library is 73GB. I have 6.3TB in my iTunes library. It'd be nice if Apple could make a RAID 10 8TB model. Sure my phone won't be as thin but I'm sure Apple can compress the 8TB down to 1".

On a serious note, the iPhone 6 should be starting at 32GB by now. And go up to 256GB.

It would have cost Apple nothing to go to 32 GB two generations ago. I really don't think people realize just how cheap flash is these days.

 

[bpcookson]

No amount of organization will overcome the lack of space problem. Further what I've seen of iOS 8 and iCloud won't solve the problem either.

Are you sure? The new and improved Photo Stream seems promising.

The way I understood the keynote, it sounds like everything will just live in your photo stream and use your icloud storage. This may prove to be a not-so-inconsequential expense as videos will be included.

The question I have is this: Will the photo stream media be stored locally or streamed from iCloud on demand?

If the latter is the case, then we are indeed on a path towards overcoming the lack of space problem.

 

[Feher]

That's the same as what it costs currently outside the US.

Edit: Even worse, it's relatively cheap. The 16 GB model starts at $950 in Europe.

It is very expensive. I won't buy it for this price

 

[wizard]

It's a FREAKING PHONE! I think I'm jumping off the smart phone bandwagon. ATT just replaced my broken 4s with a 5 two weeks ago and I'm finally out of contract, so I think I'm just keeping the 5 for a few years and maybe go with a pay as you go plan. Tired of paying a small fortune for these damn phones and plans.

You aren't the only one! I'm to the point where I would prefer to spend my "plan" money on the iPads and let the phone revert back to the cheapest service possible. IPad is just a better mobile solution for me.

 

[NMBob]

Good reasons. I will add or highlight that my main reason is to have enough space to capture photos and videos while on a trip without my Mac. Also to load videos and movies to watch when inside an airplane for hours.

Don't forget you'll need a few spare gigabytes to do upgrades.

 

[Mambain]

After taxes $900 for the entry level model....I think I will be passing up on this phone. Does anyone else not feel that is a little crazy for a phone!?

That is nearly a 30% increase for people who do not need more storage just to have the newest phone.

I wonder how much iPhone 6 is going to cost in Europe since iPhone 5s was already costing ~$900 and more

 

[Teste]

Wow some of the replies in this thread.

"Well I only need a 16GB phone, I have constant 4G and unlimited data so I store everything in the cloud, why can't you?"

The irony is, you could turn the question around into,

"Well I only need a 4 inches phone, why do you need a 4.7 or 5.5 one?"

"Well I only need a phone, I have a laptop so I don't need to use internet on my mobile, why don't you do the same?"

Anyone using anything better than this:

...Has no right to use the world "need". First world issue all the way.

 

[McTaste]

If they aren't doing a 128gb version, at least give us a micro sd slot.

 

[wizard]

Nice try but apple's market cap is a little over 500 billion. Also, if you pull up sales numbers by capacity on a site like ebay, the 16gb is FAR ahead of the 32gb and 64gb. The 32gb and 64gb are about on the same level. The trend is that the majority of people don't use the larger capacity so to apple its not worth the half a billion in additional costs to please the 2%. It's called business strategy and they seem to be doing fine with it so far.

Yes but you need to ask why! The problem isn't need but rather accepting Apples ripoff pricing for just a tiny bit of flash memory. Currently you have to have a real pressing need for 64 GB to justify paying $200 extra for that storage. It is just a little to much like rape to pay Apple that much money for $16 worth of flash. You get nothing more for that $200 which makes the deal that much more painful.

 

[Kryckter]

If they aren't doing a 128gb version, at least give us a micro sd slot.

You are really dreaming to think that Apple would give us a SD slot. Dont get me wrong, I would LOVE to have one. I just dont think its happening...

 

[2457282]

No.... It's too soon. I need more time to get ready for the 55" iphone.

Okay seriously, September 19 is getting better. I would still prefer an August date for the back to school rush and then a second for the Holiday rush in late November. Maybe use an August release for the smaller "c" line and the November release for the "OMG Huge" line.

 

[Mtmspa]

Some people do. Lots of music, lots of videos. And lots of apps. It's not unusual for iOS apps to be larger than 2GB these days. Also, videos these days are taking up more storage due higher quality. Plus there's always the element of 'better safe than sorry'.

The iWork apps that come with the phone, if you choose to accept -- that's already 4GB or so before you've even started. 16GB is pathetic in 2014 and 32GB should be the absolute minimum. Plus it's not like it's costing Apple much -- component difference for Apple between 16-32GB isn't more than a couple of dollars.

There are loads of other reasons as well for 128GB that I can't think of off the top of my head; I'm sure another few MR members will help me out

I store music in the cloud so 16g is fine for me.

 

[2457282]

The irony is, you could turn the question around into,

"Well I only need a 4 inches phone, why do you need a 4.7 or 5.5 one?"

"Well I only need a phone, I have a laptop so I don't need to use internet on my mobile, why don't you do the same?"

Anyone using anything better than this:

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...Has no right to use the world "need". First world issue all the way.

I actually owned that phone a while back. Battery life sucked.

 

[Dave245]

I wonder how much iPhone 6 is going to cost in Europe since iPhone 5s was already costing ~$900 and more

In the UK it costs us £549 for the 16GB. If there is a £100 premium for the 5.5" model then it will make it £649 at the cheapest for the iPhone 6.

 

[Mtmspa]

These days it isn't uncommon to have apps that take up 1-2 GB with a fresh install and no user data. Even a couple of apps this size have a dramatic impact on storage space.

Beyond that user data can vary widely. 32 GB for most users these days is barely enough.


Baloney!

First off i really domt understand Apples mentality here, but i susoect the big problem is the desire to maximise profits at all cost.

The reality is that Apple has not leveragee at lewst two process shrinks to deliver more storage to users. They benefit from these shrinks though so who is gettingmsscrewed here.

To make statements like this I have to seriously question your understanding of computer technology. Apple really needs to concentrate on more and faster storage and frankly solutions like you suggest would just suck performance and reliability wise.

A company wants to maximize profits? The nerve!!!!!!!

 

[wizard]

128GB would be a good start. I'd buy a 1TB iPhone.

So would I. I think the day is coming where devices like iPhone become ones primary computer, as such lots of storage is an imperative. IPhone six could put us a few steps closer to that reality, all they really need is to have respectably external monitor support in iOS to allow apps to run on external monitors.

 

[2010mini]

Welcome to the forums.

1. People who have a large music collection.
2. People who have a large film collection.
3. People who use the iPhone as a backup or file transfer utility.
4. Purely for technological progress. Why not? Technology has to progress.
5. 16GB is just dirt chip, yet manufacturers are charging $100 for an extra 16GB, rip off! Enough of that.

Answers for 1and 2:

iTunes Match and iTunes movie in the cloud would take care of all that space those would hog on the phone.

That's how I have my 16g 5s set up. And with the upcoming iOS 8 iPhoto in the cloud, I'll have even more space on my phone to play with.

 

[rwilliams]

24.6GB Photos & Camera
23.2GB Music

Not much room for everything else. Currently only 76MB free.

24.6 GB of photos? Wow!

 

[MaloCS]

Interesting posit, except that web-apps run like crap. The performance gains you get from running a native client is a huge bullet in your theory; nevermind how processor intensive Flash is.

I have to disagree with you. I was a professional Flash developer and the apps I created were not processor intensive. All you're doing is quoting Apple's propaganda which only takes into account the apps that are poorly written. There are quality Flash apps out there that don't bog down your CPU/GPU/RAM. Apple banned Flash because it represented a well established avenue for internet based apps. With Flash, developers can distribute their own apps and retain all profits. There is no profit to be had for allowing Flash on iOS devices and to think that Apple made this decision despite the financial repercussions is naive. Apple May act like they want to protect the customers' best interests but the truth is they were protecting their revenue stream.

I have to disagree. Your assertion is temporal in nature; it doesn't consider future technological advancements. As mobile data access and cloud storage infrastructure improve, today's storage limitations will become a thing of the past. And the best way to improve that tech is to force reliance upon it.

I could care less about future technological improvements. I want effortless technology right now, not next year or the year after. Do you really think that AT&T will relax their data usage policy making it easier and less costly for mobile users to download their data with no extra fees? The fact is that if AT&T decides that they are losing money by allowing unlimited data they will eliminate the unlimited data plan and market the hell out of their capped data plans (oh, wait... didn't AT&T already do this?). AT&T wants money, they could care less if I can't access my data due to throttled data speeds or limited access. If I need additional data they will happily sell me more for a fee. What a great business model they have, it's great for them but not the consumer.

How is that better? How is FORCING me to comply with immature technology or restrictive services better? This cloud based service era we are entering is very bad for consumers. We are leaving an era were we could access our data for free and entering an era where it is going to cost us money to access our data. This model is nothing more than another revenue steam for these corporations.

I will concede that cloud based services do offer a certain convenience. However, due to the immaturity of the technology and the carriers' limited geographical coverage and restrictive data usage policies it makes the entire industry not very desirable. I will happily switch to cloud based services but only when the tech matures and the carriers' data usage policies relax. I won't be holding my breath.

 

[rp2011]

With the 5c having the rounded edges of the incoming iPhone 6 and all models now having a unified theme, I bet Apple again gets rid of the metal case for the last model discounted phone, and instead release an updated 5CS in a color that doesn't look like it was meant for your 13 year old daughter.

An upgraded 5C in black will certainly appeal to a lot of people and keep this year's models all unified in the design direction from 4"-5.5", but most certainly for those among us who still prefer a modern updated iPhone in a smaller form factor.